Playstation 3 Now $299, Slim Coming September 1st, Firmware 3.0 Overhaul Detailed

Originally Posted by Abyss Master

The PS2 makes sure that the PS3 isn't selling more. People have no reason to go over to PS3 because they can't play the PS2 games on it, so they refrain from buying it. Say what you want, this isn't helping them.

I guess the PS3 games could be a reason to buy a PS3. If people want to play PS2 so badly, they could just go play a ps2. The only reason people with PS2s would want the compatibility is so they don't have to leave it plugged in, like me, and everyone else I know with a ps3.

You mean like they added Blu-Ray? Isn't this point becoming more and more obsolete the more price cuts are made?

What exactly is your point with blu-ray here?

So, let's get this straight. If a poor guy wanted to play PS2 and PS3 games, but only had enough money to buy himself one of the consoles, he'd have to choose which one he wanted the most?

Pretty much yeah. This never seemed to be a big deal going from NES to SNES to N64 to gamecube. Why all of a sudden is this such a huge problem now?

I just want to know, because i'm not sure if you have already said this or not. Do you own a ps3?

Originally Posted by zeldask8r

what is the big deal about backwords compatability?

Given the vast collection of quality PS2 titles, it would have been a great benefit for PS3.

[seriously, if you don't own a ps2 by now you are a dumbass.

It sells still, so obviously there are people who don't have it.

Honestly, if you have enough to buy a ps3, I'm pretty sure you have enough to spend a few extra bucks on a ps2.

That's kinda jumping to conclusions, no?

Sell your damn wii or something, ps2 is a much better investment than that white "revolutionairy" rectangle.

The Wii offers quality Wii titles, as well as backwards compability for the Gamecube, and the Virtual Console lets you play quality NES, SNES and N64 titles. So, which is the better investment? I don't care, the PS3 would still have been better off with PS2 support.

I guess the PS3 games could be a reason to buy a PS3. If people want to play PS2 so badly, they could just go play a ps2. The only reason people with PS2s would want the compatibility is so they don't have to leave it plugged in, like me, and everyone else I know with a ps3.

Naturally, the reason why you'd want a PS3 is because of the games (or the blu-ray, I suppose). Incidentally, PS2 support would probably not be the selling point, but it would certainly make the console more attractive.

What exactly is your point with blu-ray here?

You mentioned how PS2 support would raise the price. Blu-ray did just that, yet you still see price cuts that are going to press the price to below the Wii even. The price problem is shrinking - for consumers, at least.

Pretty much yeah. This never seemed to be a big deal going from NES to SNES to N64 to gamecube. Why all of a sudden is this such a huge problem now?

It's not a huge problem for anyone, with the possible exception of Sony themselves. PS2 support is NOT a necessity, but it would have made the PS3 a much more attractive console and a better purchase. It's not bad for consumers as much as it is inconvenient for the PS3, and possibly consumers who would have liked to play PS2 games on their PS3 but who lack the PS2.

I just want to know, because i'm not sure if you have already said this or not. Do you own a ps3?

Nope. I was lucky enough to land a PS2, so I'm perfectly happy with that. Plus my brother bought a 360, so there's really no actual reason for me to buy one.

Originally Posted by Abyss Master

You mentioned how PS2 support would raise the price. Blu-ray did just that, yet you still see price cuts that are going to press the price to below the Wii even. The price problem is shrinking - for consumers, at least.

Blu-Ray was nessisary though because it enable higher quality games and graphics for the PS3 software.
And adding more is always going to up the price.

It's not a huge problem for anyone, with the possible exception of Sony themselves. PS2 support is NOT a necessity, but it would have made the PS3 a much more attractive console and a better purchase. It's not bad for consumers as much as it is inconvenient for the PS3, and possibly consumers who would have liked to play PS2 games on their PS3 but who lack the PS2.

Yes, but overall, people who really want to play PS2, the majority have one already, but still feel the need to complain about it.

Naturally, the reason why you'd want a PS3 is because of the games (or the blu-ray, I suppose). Incidentally, PS2 support would probably not be the selling point, but it would certainly make the console more attractive.

Nope. I was lucky enough to land a PS2, so I'm perfectly happy with that. Plus my brother bought a 360, so there's really no actual reason for me to buy one.

Perfect! So now, if you ever did get a ps3 for any reason, you could still play PS2 games. You would be in the same boat as the majority of other people. You would have both, but would still want the compatibility.
It isn't nessacary. I think if you're going to want a new system, buy it for the new software for that system, instead of what its older brother could do.

Firstly, I'm going to ignore all of these console debate posts, I'm happy with my consoles I have now, and they all have their uses, so I don't really care either way.

Originally Posted by Slime

Not a big fan of the Slim design, but I'm glad to hear about the price cut. It's about time. Now we just have to wait and see if all the "I'll buy it when it's cheaper" people actually live up to their word.

Somehow I doubt it. = \

I know I will.

Originally Posted by Raex

What compels you people to buy a Playstation 3?

Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy XIII Versus, God of War III, The Last Guardian. Those are really all I remember off the top of my head, but yeah.

Originally Posted by Sweetie

Finally! I am definitely getting a PS3 this Christmas.

My thoughts exactly.

Originally Posted by daeth

I have a decent gaming PC, a PS3, and a 360. I think there's room for all of them if you can afford it.

I'm extremely jealous of you.

Personally, I'm extremely happy, and really only for the price cut, since the only thing I'm getting my hopes up for is all of these exclusive games I want to play. Once I get a PS3, I'll have all Current Gen Consoles.

I doubt it. Frankly, I'm astounded they dropped the price instead of amping it. They hacked backward-compatibility because people were complaining about the price, and they needed to cut something before they could risk dropping the price. I'll be surprised if they bring it back. Pleasantly surprised, though.

If they don't, I recommend finding a 60GB model on eBay or something. I found a few that went for about $250. Great deal, especially since you can get some of that back by selling your PSX/1/2. Someone out there will buy it.

Meh. I'd rather get a PS3 slim and a PS2 slim then a regular fat old PS3.

Methinks it's time to get something other than a Wii. Thank Haruhi.

Originally Posted by zeldask8r

what is the big deal about backwords compatability? seriously, if you don't own a ps2 by now you are a dumbass. it's 100 bucks brand new, you can get a used one on ebay for 30 bucks for crying out loud! Honestly, if you have enough to buy a ps3, I'm pretty sure you have enough to spend a few extra bucks on a ps2. Sell your damn wii or something, ps2 is a much better investment than that white "revolutionairy" rectangle.

:facepalm: I want it because my PS2 is getting old and its one of those wonderful models that has the laser alignment problems. And I still have a ton of PS2 games that I want to play long after my console is going to die. There are plenty of reasons to have PS2 compatibility. If Sony were to offer a model of the slim that had the emotion chip on the board and was capable of PS2 compatibility for more money, I would pick that one up.

Maybe we'll see BC from software some day. I think the PS3 is going to be around for a long time, I don't really think that any developer has tapped the full power of the PS3. I mean, god, most 360 versions of cross platform games look better than they do on the PS3. And the whole 512 mbs of ram split down the middle does not help things. I have a feeling that the PS3 is going to end up like the Sega Saturn, notoriously hard to code for. And it took a while for developers to take full advantage of the PS2 last gen.

Originally Posted by Dark Wyrm

:facepalm: I want it because my PS2 is getting old and its one of those wonderful models that has the laser alignment problems. And I still have a ton of PS2 games that I want to play long after my console is going to die. There are plenty of reasons to have PS2 compatibility. If Sony were to offer a model of the slim that had the emotion chip on the board and was capable of PS2 compatibility for more money, I would pick that one up.

Maybe we'll see BC from software some day. I think the PS3 is going to be around for a long time, I don't really think that any developer has tapped the full power of the PS3. I mean, god, most 360 versions of cross platform games look better than they do on the PS3. And the whole 512 mbs of ram split down the middle does not help things. I have a feeling that the PS3 is going to end up like the Sega Saturn, notoriously hard to code for. And it took a while for developers to take full advantage of the PS2 last gen.

That's because most cross platform games are made for the 360 and than ported to the PS3. When they go cross platform the devs have to make it so that it will also fit for both systems.

Also, there are ways to realign your laser.

PS3 Slims are now available in Stores!!!

GO GO GO GO!!!

Um...no they aren't. They come out September.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

Um...no they aren't. They come out September.

They are in stores now. Sony told retailers to sell them as soon as they get them in, and it seems most stores have already got their first shipment.

Sony's marketing for this thing is incredible! They're treating the Slim like a new system launch.

US commercials:
It only does
everything.

The rumor-mongerer one is hilarious! He's wearing the three keyboard cat moon t-shirt and everything!! Great commercials for spreading info on the device as well.

Jonah Hill?