Playstation 3 Now $299, Slim Coming September 1st, Firmware 3.0 Overhaul Detailed

Originally Posted by Dark WotS

Hehe, that's pretty funny. Also, how have you not been confronted about your sig? Goddamn. Time for a cold shower.

Because the mods are awesome.

And yes, it is. Otacon can be pretty funny, when he isn't crying because the current female character he is closest to just got wacked.

Firmware v3 reminds me of the all the features Xbox Live already has, and has had for a while now... hmmmm...

As for the Slim itself, looks ugly. Good job with the price drop though, I may pick up a PS3 in the near future if Sony finally gets their ♥♥♥♥ together and has backwards compatibility for every PS3 model via software emulation, not just the 60GB model or which ever goddamn SKU it was that had the Emotion hardware.

Sony says no BC for us

Its really not a big deal though. PS3 has enough good things on its own to be worthy of a purchase, they don't have to give you BC just cause you never went out and bought a PS2.

Sigh... when will the blue ocean and the disrupted industry actually get interesting? Pricecuts? Not gonna lift the longterm momentum of the console.

As for the Slim itself, I actually admit that this could benefit Sony in the long run, even if it doesn't lift longterm momentum. Plus, it actually looks almost as smooth (in ALL senses if the word) as the Wii, so it gets a thumbs up for aesthetics.

Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

Most people who use the "Wait until ____" argument aren't ever planning on getting PS3s.

That's not true, there are a considerable number who really meant it. I've wanted as PS3 for quite some while now, but it was always out of my price range. Now, I might actual be able to get one if I save for a few more months.

Originally Posted by Crab Helmet

That's not true, there are a considerable number who really meant it. I've wanted as PS3 for quite some while now, but it was always out of my price range. Now, I might actual be able to get one if I save for a few more months.

It's a meme for passive aggressive trolling. You might be serious, but many people are not.

Originally Posted by Double A

Sigh... when will the blue ocean and the disrupted industry actually get interesting? Pricecuts? Not gonna lift the longterm momentum of the console.

As for the Slim itself, I actually admit that this could benefit Sony in the long run, even if it doesn't lift longterm momentum. Plus, it actually looks almost as smooth (in ALL senses if the word) as the Wii, so it gets a thumbs up for aesthetics.

This WILL benefit Sony in the long run. "Blue Ocean" is not the only successful business model, and lowering the price point from such a high figure will do more than increase hardware sales.

And I'll post this again, since it may have been deleted by the website issues:

People complaining about backward compatibility, either emulate on PC, buy a PS2, realize that PSone games are still compatible, eBay a BC 60GB PS3, or shut the hell up.

Because complete PS2 BC will NEVER be coming back.

Originally Posted by Viral Maze

Firmware v3 reminds me of the all the features Xbox Live already has, and has had for a while now... hmmmm...

As for the Slim itself, looks ugly. Good job with the price drop though, I may pick up a PS3 in the near future if Sony finally gets their ♥♥♥♥ together and has backwards compatibility for every PS3 model via software emulation, not just the 60GB model or which ever goddamn SKU it was that had the Emotion hardware.

If it's that big a deal, you can just get a 60GB and replace the HDD with a bigger one. Aside from minor hardware fixes, the HDD is really the only difference between the various models. Sure, you won't have the luxury of a warranty... Just don't throw it across the room or beat it with a sledgehammer. The thing's practically invincible.

Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

Because complete PS2 BC will NEVER be coming back.

Bull♥♥♥♥. I estimate PCSX2 will be almost fully playable within three years. Assuming you have a really good processor.

Originally Posted by Dark WotS

If it's that big a deal, you can just get a 60GB and replace the HDD with a bigger one. Aside from minor hardware fixes, the HDD is really the only difference between the various models. Sure, you won't have the luxury of a warranty... Just don't throw it across the room or beat it with a sledgehammer. The thing's practically invincible.Bull♥♥♥♥. I estimate PCSX2 will be almost fully playable within three years. Assuming you have a really good processor.

Full PS2 BC

FULL PS2 BC

On Ps3.

Two parts wrong there.

People complaining about backward compatibility, either emulate on PC, buy a PS2, realize that PSone games are still compatible, eBay a BC 60GB PS3, or shut the hell up.

This.

Wait, the PS3 can play PS1 games, but not PS2 games? This makes absolutely no sense!

However, my PS3 has backwards compatibility, so I don't really care.

Originally Posted by Kami Tsurugi

Wait, the PS3 can play PS1 games, but not PS2 games? This makes absolutely no sense!

However, my PS3 has backwards compatibility, so I don't really care.

It's because emulation requires hardware much more powerful than the system being emulated. The PS3 is so much more powerful than the PSone that emulation is simple. On the other hand, there are parts of the PS3 hardware that are slower than the PS2's, making software emulation a challenge, with no hope of ever reaching 100% compatibility.

Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

It's because emulation requires hardware much more powerful than the system being emulated. The PS3 is so much more powerful than the PSone that emulation is simple. On the other hand, there are parts of the PS3 hardware that are slower than the PS2's, making software emulation a challenge, with no hope of ever reaching 100% compatibility.

Meh, 90% is good enough. I imagine most PS3 owners own a PS2 as well, like me, or at least an Xbox, which would have a good deal of games that the PS2 had, except the exclusives.

Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

Full PS2 BC

FULL PS2 BC

On Ps3.

Two parts wrong there.

It's as full as fully gets. My statement was, for all practical purposes, correct.

My only real complaint is that I have limited space for all my consoles. I've got, what...five now? Two of them, plus the DVR and stereo, are literally taking up my entire desk. The less consoles I need physically present, the better.

Lack of backwards compability is still going to hurt them though. The PS2 is almost matching the PS3 in sales, so obviously it's still rather attractive as a console.

So there may very well be little reason to complain for the lack of BC, but it's not a good thing for the PS3 to lack it.

Originally Posted by Abyss Master

Lack of backwards compability is still going to hurt them though. The PS2 is almost matching the PS3 in sales, so obviously it's still rather attractive as a console. So there may very well be little reason to complain for the lack of BC, but it's not a good thing for the PS3 to lack it.

Obviously part of the reason Sony isn't including the backwards compatibility. It would hurt sales since the ps2s are sellling so well.

Originally Posted by Koulatio

Obviously part of the reason Sony isn't including the backwards compatibility. It would hurt sales since the ps2s are sellling so well.

Uhhh, really? So instead of people buying PS3s you'd rather have them buy PS2s? Because I'm sure they would want consumers to purchase the PS3 instead. If there's anything that would have benefitted Sony, it would be the PS3 offering all the PS2 could dish out.

There's a reason why the Gamecube isn't even worth noting saleswise today - the Wii offers a backwards compability which makes the GC close to obsolete.

Originally Posted by Abyss Master

Uhhh, really? So instead of people buying PS3s you'd rather have them buy PS2s? Because I'm sure they would want consumers to purchase the PS3 instead. If there's anything that would have benefitted Sony, it would be the PS3 offering all the PS2 could dish out.

There's a reason why the Gamecube isn't even worth noting saleswise today - the Wii offers a backwards compability which makes the GC close to obsolete.

PS2s are selling. Don't give people a reason not to buy them.

And if they added PS2 compatibility, the price of the ps3 would go up. People don't want to pay the money. So you can either play your ps2, or fork over the money for a ps3. If you already have a ps2, great! Your all set if you buy a ps3.

Originally Posted by Abyss Master

Lack of backwards compability is still going to hurt them though. The PS2 is almost matching the PS3 in sales, so obviously it's still rather attractive as a console.

So there may very well be little reason to complain for the lack of BC, but it's not a good thing for the PS3 to lack it.

Sales the last two months have been down in America across the board, outside of the DS.

Originally Posted by Koulatio

PS2s are selling. Don't give people a reason not to buy them.

The PS2 makes sure that the PS3 isn't selling more. People have no reason to go over to PS3 because they can't play the PS2 games on it, so they refrain from buying it. Say what you want, this isn't helping them.

And if they added PS2 compatibility, the price of the ps3 would go up.

You mean like they added Blu-Ray? Isn't this point becoming more and more obsolete the more price cuts are made?

People don't want to pay the money. So you can either play your ps2, or fork over the money for a ps3. If you already have a ps2, great! Your all set if you buy a ps3.

So, let's get this straight. If a poor guy wanted to play PS2 and PS3 games, but only had enough money to buy himself one of the consoles, he'd have to choose which one he wanted the most?

what is the big deal about backwords compatability? seriously, if you don't own a ps2 by now you are a dumbass. it's 100 bucks brand new, you can get a used one on ebay for 30 bucks for crying out loud! Honestly, if you have enough to buy a ps3, I'm pretty sure you have enough to spend a few extra bucks on a ps2. Sell your damn wii or something, ps2 is a much better investment than that white "revolutionairy" rectangle.