Super Mario Galaxy 2 Announced

There's a higher chance that I'll buy this game then the new Metroid game.

Originally Posted by Tonchiki

^ I meant underestimating, whatever.
But to be honest now that I look at it again, if that's really the slight amount of reused levels/objectives, it won't be that bad. Maybe they're only reusing small worlds for coin challenges or something.

I dunno, some of the levels in SMG were pretty good. I wouldn't mind going back to some and being shown different parts of it. Perhaps it'll be like Royal Raceway in Mario Kart 64, where you could go back to the castle from Super Mario 64. If they'd let me explore more of the castle area in a go-kart, I don't think I would ever have left.

I'm happy with the announcement. I was hoping for a new Mario more than a new Zelda, honestly. I've never been big on Metroid... so that announcement didn't get me super-pshcyed about much. But, this, MG2, I'm looking forward to it.

To be honest, I thought that Zelda Wii was way more likely than this, lol...

Also, anybody notice how the Star Pointer has been replaced bt a red dot? Look in the trailer at a part where Yoshi is pulling himself to some kind of sphere. You can see a red dot moving like a pointer.

Originally Posted by Hazzle

Super Mario World was a rehash, outside of its graphics it is just SMB3 with different powerups and floatier physics, prove me wrong.

Um not at all.

SMW had puzzle levels and far more secrets, and power-ups were being used in gameplay to complete levels rather than to mix up the gameplay a little bit. SMW was the next logical step. Then it went to Yoshi's Islands which started adding unlockables and collectables. Overall, greater level design.

I mean they don't even play the same.

I just wanna know... Why... Why SMG2? Is Nintendo effin kidding me? They knew damn well we wanted Zelda.. And I don't mean train boy Zelda.. I mean ~ZELDA~

But no.. Don't worry guys. We get to see Mario fly through space again...

Can anyone say "quick rehash?"

Looks like the level areas are bigger now . Something Galaxy 1 failed to do... Will be awesome fun and the 90% new content sounds great. I read somewhere that the trailer showed the 10% :S. Dunno if that's true or not.

Originally posted by Enuf3
But no.. Don't worry guys. We get to see Mario fly through space again...

That's not a bad thing. Not even remotely.

http://www.officialnintendomagazine....le.php?id=9227

This article has the parts of the round table which tell u why SMG2 was made.

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Lollipop

Indifferent.

As much as I loved the original Super Mario Galaxy, this just looks exactly the same to me, except that they slapped a "2" at the end of the title. The console Mario games all have notable upgrades from their predecessors, but this looks more like a quick cash-in to me -- especially after announcing it only a year after the original Super Mario Galaxy.

Originality counts; anyone can take an old formula and rehash it.

Originally Posted by Andross

Can anyone say "quick rehash?"

You might want to read through the whole thread, not everyone happens to agree this is a great announcement or concept altogether.

Originally Posted by Crimson Moon

Would you have preffered all the new levels, powerups and Yoshi as DLC instead? That would have been ideal. Imagine EAD Tokyo giving us a new galaxy every month.

No, I just mentioned that its predecessor, Super Mario Galaxy, is basically the exact same. I would easily have preferred a whole new 3D Mario game altogether, localized in a different kind of space; a new Super Mario Galaxy is merely postponing the issue.

If anything, I hope they fix that little camera angle problem we had in the previous installment.

Super Mario Galaxy Luigi Mode is now definitely on my pile of shame to play through this summer.

Originally Posted by Andross

Can anyone say "quick rehash?"

Majora's Mask was a "quick rehash," and a lot of people think it's the best Zelda game ever.

Originally Posted by Enuf3

They knew damn well we wanted Zelda.. And I don't mean train boy Zelda.. I mean ~ZELDA~

Nintendo has been having such a hard time appeasing Zelda fans the past 10 years (since OoT xD) that it doesn't surprise me at all they haven't created a concept they're satisfied enough with to present yet.

Originally Posted by Pignoah

SMW had puzzle levels and far more secrets, and power-ups were being used in gameplay to complete levels rather than to mix up the gameplay a little bit.

This was true in SMB3 also.

Originally Posted by Artemicion

Majora's Mask was a "quick rehash," and a lot of people think it's the best Zelda game ever.

No, it wasn't. The mask-based gameplay and three-day time limit did enough to make it feel like a new game. It didn't re-use ten percent of the dungeon content in the original OoT nor did Nintendo describe it as the dungeon ideas that weren't able to make it into OoT, as well.

Completely different from SMG2's case.

Originally Posted by Andross

The mask-based gameplay and three-day time limit did enough to make it feel like a new game. It didn't re-use ten percent of the dungeon content in the original OoT nor did Nintendo describe it as the dungeon ideas that weren't able to make it into OoT, as well.

Completely different from SMG2's case.

I just got finished fighting the Poe Sisters, ripped straight from OoT, and about 80% of the character models were stolen right from OoT as well. The items were largely the same, with a few twists and some new odds and ends (and the masks, of course). There were new and exciting puzzles and developments, but I think it's pretty easy to see those coming from a new Galaxy game. Galaxy's already shown off new NPCs, new items, and a new playable character, so I really think so far it's proven that it's doing things about as differently from the last as MM did from OoT.

Jesus, what is with the retarded hate for this sequel? If they have more ideas from one of the greatest games ever, why let them just sit in a notebook for the rest of time? There's no reason why they shouldn't make this game if they have enough content that they couldn't put in the original for a whole new title, not when it's awesome content and there's obviously new ideas being thrown in.

God of War II was very similar to the original, but that wasn't a rehash. Modern Warfare 2 is looking to be much like the original, but no one's calling that a rehash. What about all the Final Fantasies? Racing franchises? Fighting franchises?

i am exited about this.mario galaxy 2 is going to be a good game.

Originally Posted by Artemicion

I just got finished fighting the Poe Sisters, ripped straight from OoT, and about 80% of the character models were stolen right from OoT as well.

The character models aren't what matter. The level design, gameplay style, and challenges presented are what makes one game different from another.

While MM did re-use character models, it didn't re-use levels, which is how I assume the other 10% of SMG2's content will end up.

The items were largely the same, with a few twists and some new odds and ends (and the masks, of course).

You're essentially downplaying the role of the masks in MM. Again, the need to switch between three different forms to complete varying challenges (And collect a number of minor masks to complete sidequests) caused the game to vary greatly from OoT.

Galaxy's already shown off new NPCs, new items, and a new playable character, so I really think so far it's proven that it's doing things about as differently from the last as MM did from OoT.

If I know Mario well enough (And I've played quite a few Mario games), these new items and playable characters will only be seen once or twice throughout the game; their use will be exclusive to the levels they are found in.

One of the great things about the Mario series was how each title, across the last few consoles, played very differently. Super Mario 64 introduced the standard 3D platforming scenario, Super Mario Sunshine centered largely around the abillities Mario gained from his water gun, and Super Mario Galaxy's space theme allowed for a new, enhanced experience.

The space feel is going to run dry, however; SMG2 isn't going to provide the wow factor that each Mario game was able to produce.

While sequels that were similar to eachother may have been acceptable back in the days of the NES, this isn't the case any more.

Jesus, what is with the retarded hate for this sequel?

Jesus, what is with the retarded fangasming for this sequel?

If they have more ideas from one of the greatest games ever, why let them just sit in a notebook for the rest of time? There's no reason why they shouldn't make this game if they have enough content that they couldn't put in the original for a whole new title, not when it's awesome content and there's obviously new ideas being thrown in.

The expectation with each new Mario title is that it's going to provide new and exciting ways to play.

What about all the Final Fantasies? Racing franchises? Fighting franchises?

Final Fantasy could be an exception, because each game features completely new characters, new storylines, new battle systems, and new methods of character growth. It really isn't a series at all, in a traditional sense; if you ask me, I'd call it an "RPG development platform."

As for racing games and fighting franchises, I'm not sure why fanboys aren't calling for new ways to play. Maybe they should.

Originally posted by Andross
Jesus, what is with the retarded fangasming for this sequel?

Most of us are sane.

The expectation with each new Mario title is that it's going to provide new and exciting ways to play.

We saw new features, and we're getting brand new galaxies with new objectives.

Final Fantasy could be an exception, because each game features completely new characters, new storylines, new battle systems, and new methods of character growth. It really isn't a series at all, in a traditional sense; if you ask me, I'd call it an "RPG development platform."

I'd call that a cop-out, since for a long span of time they played largely the same with only minor differences in the game design.

As for racing games and fighting franchises, I'm not sure why fanboys aren't calling for new ways to play. Maybe they should.

Or, they want to continue their franchises to stay in the same genre.

We saw new features, and we're getting brand new galaxies with new objectives.

Mario's still going to feel the same when controlling him, and the new suits or features will most likely be exclusive to the levels they are originally found in.

As I see it, SMG2 will be an excellent game, if treated as an expansion pack.

I'd call that a cop-out, since for a long span of time they played largely the same with only minor differences in the game design.

Not really. Each game had largely varying character growth systems, and big changes (Such as the ATB system's introduction in FFIV) happened early on.

Or, they want to continue their franchises to stay in the same genre.

Sonic the Hedgehog, Mario, and Ratchet and Clank are three games that are very, very different from eachother. So different, that one might not see similarities on the exterior. Yet, they're still considered platformers.