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Old 04-08-2009, 07:04 PM
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Nintendo of America sucks

Fatal Frame IV not being published in North America

I know what you're thinking- "Tecmo has the rights to it." That's not completely true, though, as Nintendo published it in Japan.

Now, I know that Reggie was asked about it a few days and said that it's not up to NoA, but I have trouble believing that given the above fact. What more, NoA clearly isn't limited only to what NCL has to say about marketing.

NoA is quickly becoming my most hated video game corporation. I still like Nintendo as a whole, but this particular branch of theirs has been downright insulting to longtime gamers this generation. They continue to alienate us more and more, showing absolutely no proof that they care about us as anywhere near as much as they say they do. All we ever see out of them is a concern for the expanded audience in their products, their PR, their advertising etc.

And Reggie, as we all know, has become completely unbearable to listen to. He's a jackass.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:17 PM
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Re: Nintendo of America sucks

NoA has always sucked. It censored games to the point where it was a whole nother game, and it took 8 years for FFV to come to America, and they have only recently started releasing FE over here.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:19 PM
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Re: Nintendo of America sucks

Reggie is, indeed, a prick. They really need to get someone new to handle their PR. He either comes off as arrogant, ignorant, a jackass, or all three.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:19 PM
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Re: Nintendo of America sucks

It's all a matter of profit.

A few days ago on Starmen.net, it was posted that Reggie said (in summary), "I would love to see Mother 3 here in the U.S. market, but we have other priorities with the Wii and DS."

It's like, "Casual stuff sells great? Bring more over. Hardcore stuff sells terribly? Don't waste money bringing it here until after the cash-cows are released."
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:22 PM
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Re: Nintendo of America sucks

Really? I still rather like Reggie.

As for NoA showing contempt for hardcore gamers, NoA doesn't make all that many games, most are made by Nintendo Japan.

If anything, stuff like Elite Beat Agents shows an appreciation for niche markets over here.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:24 PM
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I'm convinced that when he says "We'd love to bring _________ over, BUT..." he probably either doesn't even know what the game is, and/or just doesn't really care. It's just good PR to let the core gamers think they give a ****, whether it's true or not.

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Really? I still rather like Reggie.

As for NoA showing contempt for hardcore gamers, NoA doesn't make all that many games, most are made by Nintendo Japan.

If anything, stuff like Elite Beat Agents shows an appreciation for niche markets over here.
Maybe I'm just overreacting, but he has indeed gotten on my nerves more times than I can count the last couple years.

But yeah, NoA occasionally does some things right. Elite Beat Agents and Rhythm Heaven are nice, and it's great they brought them over here, but those are pretty much the exception to the rule.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:26 PM
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Re: Nintendo of America sucks

Well, I don't really understand not releasing games in multiple territories. When it comes to Captain Rainbow, MAYBE there's a case. Same with Mother 3, even. But Disaster, Fatal Frame 4, and games like Soma Bringer don't seem like high-risk.

Look at No More Heroes. If that game never made it out of Japan, it would've never even hit 100K. But, releasing it in the U.S. and Europe brought the game well beyond that, to the point where Suda 51 (who, by the way, worked on Fatal Frame 4) was "jumping for joy" and also to the point where a sequel was justified.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:33 PM
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Maybe I'm just overreacting, but he has indeed gotten on my nerves more times than I can count the last couple years.
I must confess that I haven't been following what he says much in the past year or so, so I may have missed stuff.

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But yeah, NoA occasionally does some things right. Elite Beat Agents and Rhythm Heaven are nice, and it's great they brought them over here, but those are pretty much the exception to the rule.
The thing I like about EBA is that it's an entirely new game. It was made with the American market in mind...yet managed to do very well back in Japan.

In essence, they knew that the Japanese version had solid gameplay mechanics, but didn't think it would sell well, so they remade it from the ground up, and did such a good job that it now gets imported back to the country of origin, essentially.



Shame they don't do that more often, though.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:51 PM
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Yeah, that should happen more often. Elite Beat Agents is a great game.

And speaking of that, where's EBA2? Japan had Oendan 2, so what the heck?
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:51 PM
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I knew this when they mistranslated Monkey Kong into Donkey Kong.
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Old 04-08-2009, 07:55 PM
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Yeah, that should happen more often. Elite Beat Agents is a great game.

And speaking of that, where's EBA2? Japan had Oendan 2, so what the heck?
I remember hearing something about it, like Nintendo trademarking it or something, though I'm not certain.

Fingers crossed, I s'pose.


However, EBA didn't sell all that well over here, so no guarantee, despite Reggie loving the series.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:01 PM
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NoE is even worse. See they don't even get mentioned. Also at least some Japanese releases see the daylight in North America. Here in Europe we almost get nothing.
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:22 PM
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In general, Nintendo needs to get new leadership that has gamers at heart, rather than dollar signs. We are totally being screwed over by NoA. Its almost getting as bad an inefficient as Nintendo of Europe.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:18 PM
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Fatal Frame IV not being published in North America

I know what you're thinking- "Tecmo has the rights to it." That's not completely true, though, as Nintendo published it in Japan.

Now, I know that Reggie was asked about it a few days and said that it's not up to NoA, but I have trouble believing that given the above fact. What more, NoA clearly isn't limited only to what NCL has to say about marketing.

NoA is quickly becoming my most hated video game corporation. I still like Nintendo as a whole, but this particular branch of theirs has been downright insulting to longtime gamers this generation. They continue to alienate us more and more, showing absolutely no proof that they care about us as anywhere near as much as they say they do. All we ever see out of them is a concern for the expanded audience in their products, their PR, their advertising etc.

And Reggie, as we all know, has become completely unbearable to listen to. He's a jackass.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:33 PM
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The thing I like about EBA is that it's an entirely new game. It was made with the American market in mind...yet managed to do very well back in Japan.

In essence, they knew that the Japanese version had solid gameplay mechanics, but didn't think it would sell well, so they remade it from the ground up, and did such a good job that it now gets imported back to the country of origin, essentially.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osu!_Tatakae!_Ouendan

It would have sold well; looking at the track listing, the weeaboos would've eaten it all up!
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:38 PM
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"Weeaboos" are a very small market segment.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:42 PM
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Re: Nintendo of America sucks

There are alot of games that aren't published in America. I agree that NOA really sucks. Here are some games that i wanted to play, but they didnt publish here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_Super_Stars

It also had a sequel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freshly-Picked_Tingle's_Rosy_Rupeeland

I wanted to try it out, my cousin was kind enough to let me borrow his copy that he got from Germany.
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Jump Superstars couldn't be released because of how the manga and anime rights are distributed to too many companies. In Japan, it's all Jump.

Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland wasn't released here because in an official poll, most Americans said they HATE Tingle.
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Keeping in mind that localizing games costs a fair amount of money, especially now with many games having voice-acting.


I don't think that NoA is doing an amazing job, but they're not doing terribly, either. (Heck, most Nintendo titles get world-wide releases now. I...can't think of any blockbuster games in Japan that don't get to NA that NoA is in charge of publishing, actually.)
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His name was always Donkey Kong. Shigeru gave him the name Donkey Kong as a way to refer that the ape was a 'stupid gorilla'.
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