Nintendo's "New" Official Classic Controller PRO.

Originally Posted by Willy Wonderful

Hmm, well with that said I'll probably still buy it.

But... it has nothing that you thought it had which would persuade you to buy it. Fair enough if you don't have a CC already though.

Wait! You don't think there is a grip you can buy seperately? I personally don't have one, but Forte does you can ask him.

Originally Posted by Tsuna

Wait! You don't think there is a grip you can buy seperately? I personally don't have one, but Forte does you can ask him.

What? I know there are plenty of grips available. I posted this thread since it's a new official Nintendo product, albeit a ****ty one.

Originally posted by GKANG
3. And to be honest, those are going to be the more used control methods. I can't see people going out to buy this, because they want the extra two buttons for a select amount of games that haven't been made yet. They might, however, go out to buy it because holding the current controller is like holding thin air with an awkward lack of plastic. That's why I think people should just get a grip, because the original design was pretty badly flawed, and they shouldn't have to pay more since it includes yet another classic controller.

Dude, it's a Nintendo product, it's gonna sell.

If they could get the Zapper to so, this'll at least push a few hundred thousand worldwide.

They might, but I also don't think they're not going to buy it for two buttons they probably won't need. Perhaps if they don't even own one controller yet.

Then there's a reason for this release.

Which games? Not to argue, but just out of interest.

Most of the N64 VC games, and I'm pretty sure all of the 2D Fighters that have landed on Wii. All except Brawl, though, never played that with a CC.

I honestly don't see the point of this. A Gamecube controller is superior to this in every way, except when playing SNES games which benefit from the distinct button placement. In that situation, a regular Classic Controller (which I'm sure everybody already owns) is perfect, or at least good enough to warrant not spending an additional 20 bucks to have handles.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Dude, it's a Nintendo product, it's gonna sell.

Yeah, but not for the right reasons. Eugh, when you think about it - how different are Nintendo now. They've got this little white machine, with a crap load of unnecessary accessories and it's making masses of money. Perhaps Nintendo were 'better' earlier, because they had to earn sales. Right now, they have everyone held up high by their little Miyamoto fingers.

If they could get the Zapper to so, this'll at least push a few hundred thousand worldwide.

Yeah, but it's just like the one Link uses in the game!!

Then there's a reason for this release.

Hopefully. When I saw the extra buttons, I though "Hh god, Nintendo have started adding pointless buttons like other developers because they for some reason think it makes it 'better' ".

Remember all of those PS1 controllers with turbo buttons? What the hell was the point in those?

Most of the N64 VC games, and I'm pretty sure all of the 2D Fighters that have landed on Wii. All except Brawl, though, never played that with a CC.

Oh, I don't mean L and R. From a top-down view:
__________________________________
(_(__L__)__(ZL)____()____(ZR)__(__R__)_)

The Z buttons are the ones I'm talking about.

Originally posted by GKANG
Yeah, but not for the right reasons. Eugh, when you think about it - how different are Nintendo now. They've got this little white machine, with a crap load of unnecessary accessories and it's making masses of money. Perhaps Nintendo were 'better' earlier, because they had to earn sales. Right now, they have everyone held up high by their little Miyamoto fingers.

They're a business, get over it. You don't have to buy every single product they put out. Seeing as how what they've made has sold well, there are more than enough people out there who obviously want these things or find some use for them.

Business; not an evil empire. That description for game companies this gen is so childish it's not even funny.

Oh, I don't mean L and R. From a top-down view:
__________________________________
(_(__L__)__(ZL)____()____(ZR)__(__R__)_)

The Z buttons are the ones I'm talking about.

Oh, alright.

Yeah man, those Z buttons are in terrible spots. This is a good revision then because now they can utilized and actually be comfortable to hit.

Originally Posted by Jeff

They're a business, get over it. You don't have to buy every single product they put out. Seeing as how what they've made has sold well, there are more than enough people out there who obviously want these things or find some use for them.

Business; not an evil empire. That description for game companies this gen is so childish it's not even funny.

Well yeah, that's basically what everyone has to do. I'd still stress than people work more efficiently when in danger. When Nintendo almost lost it, they had to do a crap load to get back in their game, and they did. I know it's business, and they're doing fantastic. But easy street must feel like "wow, I don't need to do much anymore".

Oh, alright.

Yeah man, those Z buttons are in terrible spots. This is a good revision then because now they can utilized and actually be comfortable to hit.

Yeah. So once more, it's nothing new. All they did is remade their classic controller to what it should have been when it was launched. Moved the wire from bottom to top, moved the awkward Z buttons, added some place to hold the controller, and placed the sticks in a less awkward position.

It's essentially Classic Controller -1 and Classic Controller. Much like people see Wii Remote -1 and Wii Remote (the latter being motion plus).

I don't know if this has anything to do with this, but I remember hearing something about Ninty getting sued over the CC. The first thing I thought when I saw this topic was that it was to replace it.

Originally posted by GKANG
Well yeah, that's basically what everyone has to do. I'd still stress than people work more efficiently when in danger. When Nintendo almost lost it, they had to do a crap load to get back in their game, and they did. I know it's business, and they're doing fantastic. But easy street must feel like "wow, I don't need to do much anymore".

You don't know much about their research and development costs, do you? Nintendo may be on top, but they're spending disgusting amounts of money to ensure that they stay there.

Yeah. So once more, it's nothing new. All they did is remade their classic controller to what it should have been when it was launched. Moved the wire from bottom to top, moved the awkward Z buttons, added some place to hold the controller, and placed the sticks in a less awkward position.

It's essentially Classic Controller -1 and Classic Controller. Much like people see Wii Remote -1 and Wii Remote (the latter being motion plus).

Then why is this a bad thing? They're changing something for the better. They made a few misjudgments the first time and now they're correcting them. Christ, they're not going to make a perfect product every single time.

I don't understand how this warrants so much criticism and cynicism. It's just because it's Nintendo related, really.

I see this being the Wii 2's new classic controller.

Originally Posted by Jeff

I don't understand how this warrants so much criticism and cynicism. It's just because it's Nintendo related, really.

Because with the masses of experience Nintendo has, they should have released something in such a flawed state. Like the Wii remote, they could have released motion plus at the start, but didn't know if it would be worth it since it wasn't selling crazy back then.

Basically, they're released low standard products with as little cost as possible to make, then re-releasing the same product, as they should have at the first release date, claiming it to be a better version.

DS, DS lite, DSi.
Wii remote, Wii remote motion plus
Classic Controller, Classic Controller PRO.

There's nothing left but coloured Wii's that can play DVD's or something. They'll come out late 2010 to extent the lifespan even further. It's good business, but in the end, it's basically stealing our money.

I don't mean to sound offensive here, but why is nothing a cash in with Nintendo? Most things accused literally are, cashing in. It wouldn't be a problem in the normal world, since more cash means more of their Great games. But people are complaining because they feel games and the masses of accessories (which they said they'd stop releasing :/) coming out for the Wii are not up to Nintendo's own standard.

It seems there golden seal of quality is fading. Not because of Nintendo's games necessarily, but because of the junk they're letting loose.

One further example: WiiWare vs XBOX Marketplace. The marketplace games available are amazing. Some could be sold as retail games, and of course there are some bad ones there too. It also has some older classics, and even xbox original games. The WiiWare games are of much less quality a lot of the time, and fall into your "just plain wacky ol' fun" category. This is because when they started WiiWare, they let am devs put out games on there. It's a good thing for Nintendo to do, helping those underdogs out. But for gamers, we're not getting the quality we should be, since these guys aren't ideally the best of the best yet. The VC has a lot of games albeit a lack of N64 games, but they're so overpriced a lot of the time that is almost stupid to expect people to pay for such old games when there's so much piracy going around.

I've kinda sprouted into more stuff here, but you can just leave those points if you don't want to talk about them. I'm sure you will though, being Jeff and all ,_," lol.

Originally Posted by GKANG

Because with the masses of experience Nintendo has, they should have released something in such a flawed state. Like the Wii remote, they could have released motion plus at the start, but didn't know if it would be worth it since it wasn't selling crazy back then.

Basically, they're released low standard products with as little cost as possible to make, then re-releasing the same product, as they should have at the first release date, claiming it to be a better version.

DS, DS lite, DSi.
Wii remote, Wii remote motion plus
Classic Controller, Classic Controller PRO.

There's nothing left but coloured Wii's that can play DVD's or something. They'll come out late 2010 to extent the lifespan even further. It's good business, but in the end, it's basically stealing our money.

I don't mean to sound offensive here, but why is nothing a cash in with Nintendo? Most things accused literally are, cashing in. It wouldn't be a problem in the normal world, since more cash means more of their Great games. But people are complaining because they feel games and the masses of accessories (which they said they'd stop releasing :/) coming out for the Wii are not up to Nintendo's own standard.

It seems there golden seal of quality is fading. Not because of Nintendo's games necessarily, but because of the junk they're letting loose.

One further example: WiiWare vs XBOX Marketplace. The marketplace games available are amazing. Some could be sold as retail games, and of course there are some bad ones there too. It also has some older classics, and even xbox original games. The WiiWare games are of much less quality a lot of the time, and fall into your "just plain wacky ol' fun" category. This is because when they started WiiWare, they let am devs put out games on there. It's a good thing for Nintendo to do, helping those underdogs out. But for gamers, we're not getting the quality we should be, since these guys aren't ideally the best of the best yet. The VC has a lot of games albeit a lack of N64 games, but they're so overpriced a lot of the time that is almost stupid to expect people to pay for such old games when there's so much piracy going around.

I've kinda sprouted into more stuff here, but you can just leave those points if you don't want to talk about them. I'm sure you will though, being Jeff and all ,_," lol.

Ok we get it. You hate Nintendo.

I for one am not affected by the loads of crap.

It looks ok. How much is it, though?

What they need to do is make a standalone Classic Controller that doesn't have a damn wiimote dangling from it. I just want to pick up the controller, press sync, and play.

Originally Posted by Ufee

What they need to do is make a standalone Classic Controller that doesn't have a damn wiimote dangling from it. I just want to pick up the controller, press sync, and play.

That would make it more expensive, I'm afraid. I think it's worth the $20 you would save omitting the wireless in the controller to deal with the stray Wiimote, and it is even still wireless...kind of.

Originally Posted by Double A

Ok we get it. You hate Nintendo.

I for one am not affected by the loads of crap.

Yeah, I hate Nintendo more than anything. That's why I don't own a NES, SNES, GCN, DSlite, Wii with 25 games I really love and 4 wiimotes, Zelda being my second favorite franchise of all time, and last but not least, why I've stayed at ZU for so long.

You can say a bad singer can sing, but they won't get better that way.

*Gasp* Legend of Zelda isn't your all-time favorite series?!?!

Originally Posted by Dr. von Fish

That would make it more expensive, I'm afraid. I think it's worth the $20 you would save omitting the wireless in the controller to deal with the stray Wiimote, and it is even still wireless...kind of.

I'd being willing to pay $35+. And couldn't they bring the price down by eliminating everything but the essentials, ie just buttons and joysticks, no rumble or accelerometers?

Originally Posted by Sign of Madness

*Gasp* Legend of Zelda isn't your all-time favorite series?!?!

Final Fantasy VIII, IX, X and VI make that serious my favorite. It's always been very close between the two, but my love for J/RPG's wins it.

Still, nothing much beats MM and WW. Also, I gather there's a large chance you were being sarcastic, but I decided to say it anyway.