New Sonic and the Black Knight Trailer.

Originally Posted by MagnumPrimers

Nintendo could also afford to do a simple Super Mario Bros. 4, but that's for a different thread.

The closest thing you could get to that would be New Super Mario Bros., but I do hope they actually do a SMB4 and release it for Wii Ware. <3

Originally Posted by MagnumPrimers

Sega needs to do what Capcom did with Mega Man 9. Just give us a Sonic the Hedgehog 4. Seriously, you think after 7 or so really bad 3D games they'd give up. >_<

Only a select few of the 3D Sonics can truly be labeled as "really bad." I wouldn't put SA, SA2, Heroes, Secret Rings, or even Unleashed into that category.

Flawed is a much better term, since all of the 3D Sonic games have flaws, some serious, and others which can slightly be ignored. For example, I think the camera and control in Sonic Heroes needed serous polishing, and the game needed less "beat-em-up" sections, but overall I still enjoyed the experience. Secret Rings had some parts where the controls weren't catered to the level design and other parts where Sonic Team made some bad decisions with the on-rails component, but overall I still found that game to be some of the most fun I've had in the last few years.

It's less about reverting back to "classic Sonic" and more about fixing the flaws that have already presented themselves in the 3D games. If Sonic Team had released a sequel to Sonic Heroes which fixed the wonky camera, got rid of the team aspect, and tightened up the controls, it would pretty much be Sonic 2 in 3D. But, Sonic Team didn't do that, and no one has thus far experienced a "completely satisfying all the way through" 3D Sonic game, so they think it's impossible for Sonic Team to make one, even though it truly isn't. The solution is right in front of them, and they're merely not seeing it.

And even after saying all this, I don't view Sonic & the Black Knight as a misstep. In fact, it marks the first time in a while where Sonic Team has actually stuck to a basic formula from a previous game rather than just throwing it out for an all-new formula.

I watched a video on Gametrailers of Sonic fighting a dragon.

One of the most pathetic 'boss fights' I've ever seen.

It's a training fight.

here' sthe video.
Gametrailers.com - Sonic & The Black Knight - New York Comic-Con 09: Mist Dragon Boss Fight Gameplay (Cam)

That was, uh... yeah.

No enemy like that should be wasted for training. And really...why throw that into the game? It's not as if it's part of a seperate mode, it's a section of an actual level.

Ahahah. I totally agree with Jeff. That was pathetic. And there's no way that should have been in a training level if it was. Even then, it's barely giving you any experience - it barely attacks. It doesn't even breath fire ffs.

At this point no matter what the game does it'll just piss people off.

Originally Posted by LoserMaster

At this point no matter what the game does it'll just piss people off.

To the people who grew up with Sonic during the 2D era, they will continue to be pissed off until Sega stops trying to do gimmicky things with Sonic. That, or until they make a game with 3D graphics but a 2D environment (which would be freaking sweet, in my opinion).

Originally Posted by dany the dot

That, or until they make a game with 3D graphics but a 2D environment (which would be freaking sweet, in my opinion).

Huh? That sounds exactly like Sonic Rush.

Originally Posted by Rash

Huh? That sounds exactly like Sonic Rush.

Yeah, but on a home console, not on a portable one. For some reason Sega can pull it off on the DS but not on the Wii/PS3/360.

Originally Posted by LoserMaster

At this point no matter what the game does it'll just piss people off.

Not really. At this point, no matter what the game does it will never redeem itself from the horrendous onslaught of very bad 3D games.

It doesn't piss me off at all - I didn't care much for the 2D Sonic games anyway. It's just laughable now, though. I liked Adventures on the Dreamcast, and that's about it. I own Adventures 2 battle on GCN, but I haven't even played the game yet. Seriously lol.

You haven't played SA2 but you say that the 3D games are "very bad."

Of course, you should know that there are people out there who enjoyed SA2 for the things it did do right. In fact, it did just as much "right" as the original SA.

Originally Posted by Rash

Of course, you should know that there are people out there who enjoyed SA2 for the things it did do right. In fact, it did just as much "right" as the original SA.

SHADOW NEEDED MORE LEVELS AND ROBOTNIK LESS.

That is all.

Originally Posted by Rash

You haven't played SA2 but you say that the 3D games are "very bad."

Of course, you should know that there are people out there who enjoyed SA2 for the things it did do right. In fact, it did just as much "right" as the original SA.

I probably didn't make myself clear. I loved SA1, and I have SA2 but haven't played it. I'm guessing it's better than the first, but it's not like rushing to get it into my Wii as fast as possible. The other games really are very bad, in my opinion. I remember buying Shadow the Hedgehog for PS2 back in the day. It was far superior to heroes, but it was still horrible.

New gameplay trailer.

It continues to pass my approval. Can't wait to get my hands on the game, though.

Originally Posted by GKANG

I probably didn't make myself clear. I loved SA1, and I have SA2 but haven't played it. I'm guessing it's better than the first, but it's not like rushing to get it into my Wii as fast as possible. The other games really are very bad, in my opinion. I remember buying Shadow the Hedgehog for PS2 back in the day. It was far superior to heroes, but it was still horrible.

If you somehow thought that Shadow was better than Heroes, you must didn't know how to play it.

Another new gameplay trailer is out.

See it here.

I don't know, guys. It looks better every time I see new footage. SBK looks to be, pretty much, Secret Rings with tighter controls and occasional combat.

Hmm..... Ok, my opinions on this are slightly changing, but I'll still have to give it a rent first before I buy it. I barely even notice the sword is there, considering it doesn't slow down the gameplay or anything.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

If you somehow thought that Shadow was better than Heroes, you must didn't know how to play it.

I completed them both. Shadow was just.. better. I'm by no means saying it's a good game though. Heroes was too, like, unfinished. Urgh, it's just bad.