Epic Games President Explains Wii's Success

... That's usually how most games are sold, hell even products in general.

I think he basically means it's a fad again, just like many other developers have been saying for past year or so now.

Originally Posted by Daphnes

I'm all torn. I want to buy a Wii because I'm expecting a true Wii Zelda. I also want to play FF: Crystal Bearers, Metroid Corruption, Pokemon Battle Revolution, and SSBB. But most of the stuff I'm hearing about the Wii is negative.

I'm hoping a lot of this is people that care too much about graphics, complain that the online gaming is poor, and have higher standards about what a game system should do than I do.

Here it is, plain and simple. If it has games that you know you're going to enjoy, then why not get it? Don't worry about all the negative comments. I don't think it's that great and even I enjoy some games like supersmash brothers. You could rank it against the other consoles, or you could just buy one and enjoy, because when you're playing it, it only matters that you like playing it.

It's not a secret that Wii is way overpriced. They could have been a little more generous with the specs and still delivered it at the same price point. It seems the original Xbox is probably more technologically capable than Wii.

Either way that decision is not surprising coming from Epic. It's pretty obvious that they don't exactly represent the creative end of the gaming industry. They're after all the company that is making a living of selling their middleware.


Edit:

Still, the situation is this: A vast market pie is just waiting to be eaten, but he decides to hold back his company's appetite in the name of artistic integrity. Good for him and the developers. Not exactly healthy for his company, but hey, that's 2-3 Wii games I don't have to worry about buying. Right?

The pie might not be as big as it looks.
I'm not sure how well this stands up to the Wii. But in the past, Nintendo were pretty known to cannibalize their own market.
Wii has the lowest games sold per console ratio out of the three, which gives third parties, despite Nintendo's huge success in hardware sales, a good reason to do some twice-thinking about the potential market.

When it comes to judging games, there is alot more then gameplay to look at. Granted, gameplay is probably the most important aspect, but other aspects aren't that far down the list. Graphics, story, control, cinematics, sound, characters, atmosphere, and presentation are serious factors in critically analyzing a game.

Originally Posted by Kouten

Here it is, plain and simple. If it has games that you know you're going to enjoy, then why not get it? Don't worry about all the negative comments. I don't think it's that great and even I enjoy some games like supersmash brothers. You could rank it against the other consoles, or you could just buy one and enjoy, because when you're playing it, it only matters that you like playing it.

EXACTLY. I wish people would realize that more often... I love Nintendo games, so when people complain about the majority of Wii games being Nintendo games, well... There you go. Doesn't bother me.

It's also worth noting, though, that Epic's always been full of arrogant (swear word of choice here)s since the beginning. I had a bunch of reeeeeally old (like, 80s/90s old) computer platforming-style games by them, and the games made jabs at Nintendo all the time, and blatantly said in-game something to the effect of "our game's so much better than Mario". In reality, Epic's games had to be the most awful computer games I've ever played.

I realize that has nothing to do with anything, but my respect for the company is pretty much non-existant.

By the way, I wholeheartedly agree that you need to consider all of the aspects of a game... which is exactly what Epic seems to NOT be doing. You also need to figure out what part of a game means more to you, and it's obviously visual/audio for those guys.

*Shrugs*

I didn't even know the company [i]existed[/i[ 'till now. "Moving forward, but not backward"?

Hypocrites.

He's wrong that most people play it for two months and then stop, but when you look at the games available, there's really only enough to sustain someone for that long anyway.

I laugh. Refusing to make a game for a system just because of a statement made earlier? He could really cash in if he'd just eat his words and be happy with it. It's like eating your vegetables and getting sweet sweet dessert.

Random thought...

I'd like to see Moby Dick being made into a game. ^_^

Originally Posted by Blizzaga

Random thought...

I'd like to see Moby Dick being made into a game. ^_^

I don't think there's that much action in moby dick.

Originally Posted by Blizzaga

*Shrugs*

I didn't even know the company [i]existed[/i[ 'till now. "Moving forward, but not backward"?

Hypocrites.

Well, you know, they did develop the biggest ****ing game of 2006. It's called Gears of War.

Originally Posted by Slime

He's wrong that most people play it for two months and then stop, but when you look at the games available, there's really only enough to sustain someone for that long anyway.

Actually, everybody that owns a Wii here got over it even faster than two months, to be honest. And I am so glad I wasn't one of the people who bought one. I can just rent dope games like Metroid Prime 3 and play it on their systems.

Originally Posted by Radek

Actually, everybody that owns a Wii here got over it even faster than two months, to be honest. And I am so glad I wasn't one of the people who bought one. I can just rent dope games like Metroid Prime 3 and play it on their systems.

When you say "got over" do you mean the new console hype or stopped playing?

Originally Posted by Rhalen

When you say "got over" do you mean the new console hype or stopped playing?

Both...?

Originally Posted by Radek

Well, you know, they did develop the biggest ****ing game of 2006. It's called Gears of War.

Oh no! Not Gears of War!

Ask me if I care.

Better yet, don't ask me.

Originally Posted by Rhalen

I don't think there's that much action in moby dick.

Maybe not, but could make an interesting RPG.

Originally Posted by Radek

Actually, everybody that owns a Wii here got over it even faster than two months, to be honest. And I am so glad I wasn't one of the people who bought one. I can just rent dope games like Metroid Prime 3 and play it on their systems.

orly?
I beg to differ.
I'm here, and my Wii is still running stong. In fact, it's running right now.
So... how did I "Get over it"?

Originally Posted by Radek

Actually, everybody that owns a Wii here got over it even faster than two months, to be honest. And I am so glad I wasn't one of the people who bought one. I can just rent dope games like Metroid Prime 3 and play it on their systems.

Source that first statement.

In my experience, everyone who bought a Wii here is still playing it. And these are the people who thought GameCube was awful and that PS2/XBox were the supreme consoles. So, not only do people still play their Wiis, but Nintendo have really succeeded in capturing not only a new market, but large portions of opposing markets.

lets see. he wants a game that will make him want to play the Wii. hes a developer. see where im going? its like a man who finds a cure for cancer but instead of giving out the cure he just sits back and says "man cancer sucks. somebody should go do something about it. maybe find a cure or something."

while hes right to an extent about the virus thing in my experience they don't play it because they don't get the good games for it. most people i know who own a 360 and a wii often bash the wii because they say it has no good games. so i list off a few that are really good i think they would like. then they say "well i would buy those but i wanna buy this other game for the 360." if its not that then its the other extreme. they wont buy any games at all for the wii because they're not into games that much.

the wii doesnt suffer not being played for lack of a decent library. it suffers because people have to wade through so many crap games to find the good ones.

Originally Posted by Blizzaga

Oh no! Not Gears of War!

Ask me if I care.

Better yet, don't ask me.

Whether or not you chose to accept it, Gears of War WAS the biggest game of 2006. The game sold three million copies in ten weeks, it received multiple Game of the Year awards, and became THE XBox 360 game to have until Halo 3 was released. Simply brushing it aside is a pretty foolish thing to do.

Originally Posted by Radek

Both...?

So you're saying people stopped playing their wiis? I don't think so. I still play mine regularly, I have friends who play theirs regularly. In general, not everyone just hangs up their wii.

Originally Posted by Blizzaga

Oh no! Not Gears of War!

Ask me if I care.

Better yet, don't ask me.

It doesn't matter if you care. Nobody asked you if you cared. Gears of War was the biggest game of 2006, period. You are irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Mayor Adam West

Source that first statement.

In my experience, everyone who bought a Wii here is still playing it. And these are the people who thought GameCube was awful and that PS2/XBox were the supreme consoles. So, not only do people still play their Wiis, but Nintendo have really succeeded in capturing not only a new market, but large portions of opposing markets.

What, why would I source it? No.

Originally Posted by HelmarocKing

orly?
I beg to differ.
I'm here, and my Wii is still running stong. In fact, it's running right now.
So... how did I "Get over it"?

I don't choose whether you play or not, you ****ing idiot, you do. Don't ask stupid questions trying to look all smart.

Originally Posted by Rhalen

So you're saying people stopped playing their wiis? I don't think so. I still play mine regularly, I have friends who play theirs regularly. In general, not everyone just hangs up their wii.

Actually, in general, that is what people do. Read below.


Anyway, all of you guys are NINTENDO fans. You wouldn't be on ZELDA message board if you weren't. All the people I know, on- and offline, who are either casual players or play on a broader scale (own multiples consoles, etc), bought Wiis and got tired of them very quickly. I also switch residence between two cities, Boulder and Montreal, and regularly visit Laval and Denver, and what I said about Wiis applies to not some, but ALL of the 30-some Wii owners I know.