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Old 04-02-2008, 02:14 PM
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The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

I was thinking of buying The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion but im not sure i should buy it. I love Zelda Majoras Mask because of the sidequests and character depth, does The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion have as good sidequest and character depth? Also i want to know what other games would you say this is like. Is it like zelda games? Do you get a lot of xbox points and how long does it take to complete?
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Re: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

It's more than Zelda, as it's way more sidequests. But I can't say I like it more than Zelda, as it's to much focus on Graphics and big environments.
As you might know by now (if you have read any forum posts and user onions about it), the level system is fubar.
Basicly, if you level up, all the enemies level up with you. If you pick, say lockpicking, as one of your main skills, you can get master in Lockpicking, and all the enemies have leveled to extreme levels, and you have the chance of a grapefruit in hell (with a whole bunch of grapefruitloving devils with big knives and pitchforks around).
So, I reccomend you to play it with mods. I don't know if it's better to play a vanilla (no mods) game first, and then play with mods a seccond time, but do try the mods.
OOO is almost a must, and many other mods are great gameplayenhancments.
I realy enjoyed Oblivion, but in another way than I enjoyed Zelda. It is a different game.
So, finaly: when choosing skills, never pick athletic as a main skill, and in general, never the skills you are planning on using. Say, if you are planning to be a swordsman, the game wants you to pick light armour, swordsmaship and shielding or something as your main skills. But pick skills like heavy armour, magic (not rescurrection) and so on, to make sure you don't level up before you are ready. But again, if you never level up, you will never experience the true Oblivion. And also, this is for vanilla Oblivion. If you use OOO, the leveling thing is "fixed" and it's almost nessecarily to pick the skills you are going to use.
And go to the official Oblivion Forum, as they know what they are talking about.
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:43 PM
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Re: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

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It's more than Zelda, as it's way more sidequests. But I can't say I like it more than Zelda, as it's to much focus on Graphics and big environments.
As you might know by now (if you have read any forum posts and user onions about it), the level system is fubar.
Basicly, if you level up, all the enemies level up with you. If you pick, say lockpicking, as one of your main skills, you can get master in Lockpicking, and all the enemies have leveled to extreme levels, and you have the chance of a grapefruit in hell (with a whole bunch of grapefruitloving devils with big knives and pitchforks around).
So, I reccomend you to play it with mods. I don't know if it's better to play a vanilla (no mods) game first, and then play with mods a seccond time, but do try the mods.
OOO is almost a must, and many other mods are great gameplayenhancments.
I realy enjoyed Oblivion, but in another way than I enjoyed Zelda. It is a different game.
So, finaly: when choosing skills, never pick athletic as a main skill, and in general, never the skills you are planning on using. Say, if you are planning to be a swordsman, the game wants you to pick light armour, swordsmaship and shielding or something as your main skills. But pick skills like heavy armour, magic (not rescurrection) and so on, to make sure you don't level up before you are ready. But again, if you never level up, you will never experience the true Oblivion. And also, this is for vanilla Oblivion. If you use OOO, the leveling thing is "fixed" and it's almost nessecarily to pick the skills you are going to use.
And go to the official Oblivion Forum, as they know what they are talking about.
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Thanks flue. But whats a mod lol??
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:45 PM
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It's the best friggin RPG EVER! well, it's a sandbox rpg. You start off as less of a loser than in morrowind, and it can be a blast depending on what you do. There are so many sidequests, I'm only on the 2nd mission of the main quest and I feel like I've beaten the game! Definently think about the expansions like shivering isles or knights of the nine. I haven't begun nights of the nine because i haven't found where in the game you get it. But if you want to quickly improve your character, get one of the 4 expansions that alow you to quickly level up depending on your fighting style. I'm about to download the wizards tower or the evil mage expansion. The other two are a thieve's pirate ship, or a castle for your knight. The 4 expansions I've mentioned is a home for your character that greatly helps you out. I rate it 5 stars out of 5!
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Re: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

A mod is a "extension". You have official mods, like the Wizards Tower and the Orray (or something), and some others. Link
And then you have usermade mods. They are free, and can be massive.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

My brother plays it on the computer and he is far but it takes a long time to complete and I would say its like Tp some what but it has side quests.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:02 PM
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Re: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

To be honest, I didn't really like this one very much. They spent too much time on the graphics than on story, and, expansive as it was, the world began to feel empty after a short amount of time. The combat system was kind of fun, though, and the voice acting was very well done.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

Oblivion is just sweet. Way bigger than MM. You can spend a whole summer playing that game and not getting bored of it. But I did that w/ MM too so.. lol.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:29 PM
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Re: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

I wouldn't say it's like Zelda, but I think it's a lot better.

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does The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion have as good sidequest and character depth?
I'm not sure what you mean by "character depth", but Oblivion has some awesome sidequests. It's basically half the game. Oblivion is an open-ended RPG where you can do what you want, when you want and then some. You do what you want.

You can't beat the game without the sidequests. The endless epic sidequests are amazing, and they're necessary for being good enough to do the main quest.
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Also i want to know what other games would you say this is like. Is it like zelda games?
More or less. I would say it's more like the original Zelda games, except much bigger and 3-D. You also have WAY more items, and it's a lot more "free" than Legend of Zelda. Like I said, you can do what you want when you want.

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Do you get a lot of xbox points
Does that even matter?
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and how long does it take to complete?
How long do you want it to take? I guess it would take about 30 hours if you go straight through, but if you actually have fun and go through dungeons and do sidequests and stuff, I'd say it's a good 80+ hours, give or take a few.

The game probably lasts over 200 hours if you complete the WHOLE thing.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:42 AM
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To be honest, I didn't really like this one very much. They spent too much time on the graphics than on story, and, expansive as it was, the world began to feel empty after a short amount of time. The combat system was kind of fun, though, and the voice acting was very well done.
Yes, it's a bit too much focus on graphics, but it is enjoyable if you have a computer with enough horsepower. And the story is actually relative great. You have better stories, but it's not bad at all.
And, when the world start to feel empty, then download some mods, as they can double the experience sometimes.
The comban system is a bit advanced, and takes some time to get used to in comparison to Zelda, but it's not neccesarily. Just a neat thing to be able to swing your sword different, spin around and so on, and can infact be useful on some harder enemies.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:41 PM
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I wouldn't say it's like Zelda, but I think it's a lot better.


I'm not sure what you mean by "character depth", but Oblivion has some awesome sidequests. It's basically half the game. Oblivion is an open-ended RPG where you can do what you want, when you want and then some. You do what you want.

You can't beat the game without the sidequests. The endless epic sidequests are amazing, and they're necessary for being good enough to do the main quest.

More or less. I would say it's more like the original Zelda games, except much bigger and 3-D. You also have WAY more items, and it's a lot more "free" than Legend of Zelda. Like I said, you can do what you want when you want.


Does that even matter?

How long do you want it to take? I guess it would take about 30 hours if you go straight through, but if you actually have fun and go through dungeons and do sidequests and stuff, I'd say it's a good 80+ hours, give or take a few.

The game probably lasts over 200 hours if you complete the WHOLE thing.
Cool thanks for telling me. The xbox points things does matter to me though. Also by character depth i mean are they interactive like mm.
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As you might know by now (if you have read any forum posts and user onions about it), the level system is fubar.
Basicly, if you level up, all the enemies level up with you. If you pick, say lockpicking, as one of your main skills, you can get master in Lockpicking, and all the enemies have leveled to extreme levels, and you have the chance of a grapefruit in hell (with a whole bunch of grapefruitloving devils with big knives and pitchforks around).
You can change the game difficulty if you need to.
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Old 04-03-2008, 03:54 PM
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Cool thanks for telling me. The xbox points things does matter to me though. Also by character depth i mean are they interactive like mm.
Which character? You or The NPC's?

Also, I suggest NOT using any mods at all. Sure, it sounds fun at the beginning, like being able to jump really high and becoming invisible. But before you know it, you'll be clad head to toe in the best armor, have god mode on, and have killed everyone in Cyrodil because of your invincible awesomeness.


Sounds cool, right? Wrong. Mods sap the fun right out of the game, and you'll end up having the mods play the game for you. Like I said, it's not fun because there's no challenge at all.
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Which character? You or The NPC's?

Also, I suggest NOT using any mods at all. Sure, it sounds fun at the beginning, like being able to jump really high and becoming invisible. But before you know it, you'll be clad head to toe in the best armor, have god mode on, and have killed everyone in Cyrodil because of your invincible awesomeness.


Sounds cool, right? Wrong. Mods sap the fun right out of the game, and you'll end up having the mods play the game for you. Like I said, it's not fun because there's no challenge at all.
That all depends on what type of mods you download. Mods can fix many problems in the game such as, difficulty, glitches, and they just make the game more fun overall.
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Have any of you played Shivering Isle's? I heard it's a lot better, story wise.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

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That all depends on what type of mods you download. Mods can fix, many problems in the game such as, difficulty. glitches, and they just make the game more fun overall.
^Exactly.

The unofficial patch mods are excellent, and everyone should have them.


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Have any of you played Shivering Isle's? I heard it's a lot better, story wise.
Yes, and definitely yes.

Isles fixes many of the problems I had with Oblivion. NPCs are much more interesting, the landscape is unique, it has an actual plot (still not astounding, but much better than Oblivion's), etc.
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Re: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

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Which character? You or The NPC's?

Also, I suggest NOT using any mods at all. Sure, it sounds fun at the beginning, like being able to jump really high and becoming invisible. But before you know it, you'll be clad head to toe in the best armor, have god mode on, and have killed everyone in Cyrodil because of your invincible awesomeness.


Sounds cool, right? Wrong. Mods sap the fun right out of the game, and you'll end up having the mods play the game for you. Like I said, it's not fun because there's no challenge at all.
WHAT?! ARE!? YOU!? TALKING ABOUT!? (caps on purpose)
Mods do not ruin the game. Of course, if you download all the "god-mode" mods, "item of pwnage" mods and "hyper-mode" mods, then yes, it does ruin the game.
But now, let's take a look at some regular mods:

Unofficial Oblivion Patch
This mod fixes various bugs around the game, such as Alpha channels and levitating trees. It's currently fixing over 1,100 bugs. A bad thing? Au contraire.

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Deadly Reflex aims to change Oblivion´s battles into more challenging, gruesome and realistic experience.
No more doing nothing, these fights are up to YOU to take care of!
This means giving you new moves to choose from, and allowing NPC´s to use them too!
You will flip, bash and dodge and jump, and so will they - if they can!
Every NPC has their own skills, compatible with every other mod, so you will never know what to expect.
Time your blocks right, avoid the blows, land your strikes carefully and see their heads fall or crush!
Basicly, it adds depth to the fighting system. Now, you cannot just hold block, and occationally press the attack button. It's dangerous to fight now.
Bad? Nope.

Illumination Within
In short, it makes the windows light up at night, as if the fire was burning inside it. Makes for a nice and more realistic experience.

OSCURO'S OBLIVION OVERHAUL
One of the biggest and best mods out there, it changes the whole leveling system. Now, instead of meeting only low level bandits everywhere when you are on level 1 and super high demora cladded bandits everywhere when you are on level 30, you now meet a mixture of everything everywhere. But it's still a bit enemy leveling present, so you won't be omnipotent.
Good? Yes.

1 Hit Kill Spell
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This file is a spell with:
Damage health 999999999
Fire damage 9999999
Fortify Strength 99999
Fortify Blade 999
and much more
Is this the mod you were using, Sailboat?

This was just a small part of the mods out there. It's just a random collection, so get ready to dive in to a immense world of customization.
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