Nintendo and online gaming

It annoys me that practically no games on the gamecube are online. Often the main difference between two of the same games on different consoles is that the ones not on the Cube will have online features. This sucks.
Do you think Nintendo should have much more online featurees with new games or do you dislike online gaming? Does a game need to be online to be good? What do you think? I think Nintendo should make a push towards online gaming.

Being it that my siblings are crappy gamers, I would relish any oppurtunity to play my favorite games online. I doubt they will do it with the Gamecube, probably with the Revolution though, and only certain games would be played online.

Now I'm pretty sure they did something online on Gamecube for Phantasy Star, I am not certain...

GameCube won't make an online monster game. Let's face it, the GC is near the
end of it's life. But, I am certain that Nintendo will be making a LOT more games
online for the Revolution. With the recently released Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection, it
would be a shame for Nintendo to keep it DS exclusive. Also, I predict that Nintendo
will make a lot of use with the built-in wireless capabilitie of the Revolution.

Originally Posted by EternalFish

Now I'm pretty sure they did something online on Gamecube for Phantasy Star, I am not certain...

Yes, Phantasy Star was fully-online on the GC. But wasn't really much of a success,
due to the amount of money it took to get set up. Approximately £90 to get set-up
and connected.

I hope the revolution does a lot with online capabilities. The DS wi-fi thing is good. I think Nintendo should try to get most racing and shooting games online on the Revolution. They need headsets and other stuff that'll help persuade gamers to go for the Revolution.

Revoltuion = comes with nintendo wifi built right in, free of charge. The Revo will support online gaming of all sorts, lets just hope they upgrade their wifi system b4 the revo launches *waits another 8 minutes for a mario kart DS game to join*.

Yeah, when I got my PS2, I was amazed that it could actually play online, after playing so much Gamecube.

Like a breath of fresh air.

The Revo is going to be online, So there is no worries about that.
And that was the downfall of the Gamecube not being able to go online.

But hopefully the Revo is going to make up for all of that.

The only online game on the cube was phatasy star. It didn't do great at all. In fact it did quite poorly. But the rev will have online capablites. Nintendo has finally given in. Oh well, it's won't hurt them.

Wow, playing super smash bros. online is going to rock.

~Ganon not gannon

Well, after playing Halo 2 at my friend's house a while back, I really think it would be a good idea for Nintendo to get online. Yet, there are some drawbacks.

1. Money. Nintendo will probably want a payed service for the connection, just like your internet provider wants money for giving you access. So, many people will have to dig deeper into their pockets, and I won't be able to get online because of my parent's paranoia.

2. Stupid people. You know them from Halo 2 Online, the people who will shout "wut butt0n iz f1y up?" at the top of their lungs, merely because they think that since they don't know how to turn up the volume on their headset means that everyone doesn't know how. I once even saw a guy with the screenname: "HG Erection." Meh, I could deal with those idiots myself, though.

3. Paranoia. As stated before, I wouldn't be able to do this merely because of my overprotective parents. Hundreds, nay, thousands of people everywhere will not be able to go online because of overprotective parents/guardians.

Even though we have this staggering hinderinces that I managed to put together on the spot, the goods outway the bad. So, as soon as I move out, it's party time!

To me, It's a no brainer that the big N should hook up globally with online support. You would also need it if you ever wanted to buy/download some of the classic games for the Revolution anyways, so I say "yay" 'twards having the Rev play far and wide.

Just think of it, playing the new SSB, Metroid Prime 3, next Mario Kart, and etc. with distant friends, that would be great.

Originally Posted by I, Link

Well, after playing Halo 2 at my friend's house a while back, I really think it would be a good idea for Nintendo to get online. Yet, there are some drawbacks.

1. Money. Nintendo will probably want a payed service for the connection, just like your internet provider wants money for giving you access. So, many people will have to dig deeper into their pockets, and I won't be able to get online because of my parent's paranoia.

Actually, No. Nintendo has already stated, that like the DS, Revolution games made by Nintendo will be free. And there in lies the problem. Without requiring a fee, Nintendo isn't making games with servers or any other kind of online interface. Because of that, all of Nintendo's online games have had stunted online gameplay. With the current system, you'll never see MMORPGs, new levels to download, online personalities that carry through every game, customized interface, and more. And if Nintendo DS's 108.11.b can't even support all the levels of MKDS, then there is no way you'll ever see the use of a headset on the DS without some sort of sacrifice. (Revolution, and PS3 (The PS3 has already been confirmed to be using it) will probably use 108.11g though, which will allow for seamless data transfer between Console and Router.

Originally Posted by I, Link

2. Stupid people. You know them from Halo 2 Online, the people who will shout "wut butt0n iz f1y up?" at the top of their lungs, merely because they think that since they don't know how to turn up the volume on their headset means that everyone doesn't know how. I once even saw a guy with the screenname: "HG Erection." Meh, I could deal with those idiots myself, though.

Ever play Mario Kart DS? I've never went through one online match where at least one opponent disconnected. This is just a small taste of what real online gaming is like (except for FFXI. That was a nice enviornment), like you said. Plus you can consider the fact that a large portion of Nintendo's customers at this point in time are...how to put this neatly... pre-teen or younger (don't try to contridict me on this. I know everyone has their opinion, and also how their are tons of exceptions to that statement. Need proof? Check the ages of the members who have posted in this thread. Only V99, Protolink, and myself are above the middle school age. (But then again, that's how this forum is.)(assuming some one younger than 10 couldn't figure out how to go online (configuring/affording a router)), and you're going to have a heck of a lot of idiots online.

Originally Posted by I, Link

3. Paranoia. As stated before, I wouldn't be able to do this merely because of my overprotective parents. Hundreds, nay, thousands of people everywhere will not be able to go online because of overprotective parents/guardians.

Even though we have this staggering hinderinces that I managed to put together on the spot, the goods outway the bad. So, as soon as I move out, it's party time!

As the age of computer baffled parents starts to move on, this will change. For now, wait until you get older to go online.

Originally Posted by I, Link

Well, after playing Halo 2 at my friend's house a while back, I really think it would be a good idea for Nintendo to get online. Yet, there are some drawbacks.

1. Money. Nintendo will probably want a payed service for the connection, just like your internet provider wants money for giving you access. So, many people will have to dig deeper into their pockets, and I won't be able to get online because of my parent's paranoia.

2. Stupid people. You know them from Halo 2 Online, the people who will shout "wut butt0n iz f1y up?" at the top of their lungs, merely because they think that since they don't know how to turn up the volume on their headset means that everyone doesn't know how. I once even saw a guy with the screenname: "HG Erection." Meh, I could deal with those idiots myself, though.

1. Well Sony didn't make people pay for their online mode, only the Big Green did.

2. Yeah, from cheaters to screamers, there are millions of morons out there.

Hopefully, there'll be better people on a Nintendo console.

Yeah, the Gamecube online strategy was pretty much non-existant. I think a game called "My Street" was online other than Phantasy Star Online. But that alone was the only thing notable about it, save maybe for its criticism(even then, it didn't stand in a position of a horribly renowned game for that long). It was this kind of move that, among many things that kind of left Nintendo in the dust last generation(at least, from the prespective I look at it). The Revolution seems to have a good online plan anyways. Isn't Super Smash Brothers Revolution supposed to be online comptabile? That'd be pretty sweet stuff.

Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

Only V99, Protolink, and myself are above the middle school age.

What? I'm in High School. Then again, 14? Meh.

Originally Posted by Elijah

Hopefully, there'll be better people on a Nintendo console.

"They" *coughXBoxfanscough* call us Nintendoins the "immature" breed, for some reason. I doubt that most of the mature people will get on based on that fact, hence creating a non-existant scenario that could have been avoided if they hadn't had that idea.

Yeah, just because Nintendo has Mario doesn't make them kiddy.

Last time I checked, getting your head chopped off in RE4 wasn't a thing meant for little kids.

Yes! so I can beat people up on super smash brothers melee, because nobody can beat me at that, I don't care who you are! Well anyway, I voted yes because it would put nintendo back on the map where it belongs.

Idiots are universal across all fanbases. Which is why it's nice to have the option of muting people based on their account and be done with it (one of the nice things about Live: universal accounts).

As probably the oldest person in this thread thusfar, I'd love to be able to throw a wad of cash at Nintendo for a half-decent online experience. Both Nintendo and Sony are shooting themselves in the feet yet again: The reason they're pushing free online gaming isn't because they want more gamers online, or out of generousity. It's because they don't want to have to pay to develop the infrastructure to begin with, leaving the hassle and expense in the hands of the consumers and individual game developers. Online gaming becomes a weak extension of system linking.

Nintendo needs to get their home consoles online, but I'll believe it when I see it. Leading up to the Gamecube's launch they were talking up its potential for online gaming. Heck, early specs included either a modem or ethernet port standard. They even signed middleware and infrastructure contracts (Gamespy Industries comes to mind, AOL which has shown no signs of being tapped). The problem is that, without a robust infrastructure, nobody's going to use it. Not gamers, not developers, not even Nintendo itself.

I do strongly suspect they'll do better this time around. It's just that the same was true with the Gamecube.