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Old 09-07-2005, 10:29 PM
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Will the change from Early gen to current gen be as or bigger on Next Gen?

I remember getting my PS2 for the first time, bundle with Madden NFL 2001, I pop that game in and never moved from my seat till 10 hours later I think. It was unbelievable, the graphics were hard to believe, the animations were so realistic, I mean this was SO much different from PS1.

I'm now happily waiting for PS3, Xbox 360, and Rev. for now a new generation of games begin, improve graphics, better animations/physics, ect., ect., but I'm not so....hype for it you can say, I feel it just won't blow me away as it did before. Like it just be an update in graphics but still after a while feel like I'm still have the game feel of the current gen.

So what are your thoughts? Think Next Gen will blow you away like the previous change might had? Or not as much or at all?
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Old 09-08-2005, 04:34 AM
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Re: Will the change from Early gen to current gen be as or bigger on Next Gen?

I usually think that there won't be much of a difference, and I'm usually proven wrong o_o;

Between N64 and GCN there was a difference in graphics and all round polished-ness. The Gamecube was just that much better to play. Comparing SSB (awesome game) to SSB:M shows what I mean.
However, between different handhelds (e.g. GBC -> GBA) you (or at least I) don't seem much improvement at all. Sure, there are a few little graphical improvements, but nothing to go crazy about.

In relation to the next generation of video-gaming machines I'm not expecting too much of a jump. Sure, they'll have crazy graphics and what not, but there won't be a substantial leap IMO. A substantial leap like the one from 2D (SNES) to 3D (N64).

That being said, the revolution's controller has not been released yet.
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:00 AM
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Re: Will the change from Early gen to current gen be as or bigger on Next Gen?

Yes, it will.

Next Gen graphics are absolutely stunnning. Way more amazing than the previous Gen. You'll really have to wait to be sure though, but rest assured.
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:02 AM
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Re: Will the change from Early gen to current gen be as or bigger on Next Gen?

I can wait, and i think that this generation consoles have not released thier full capabillities, what a wasted generation, they better be good next generation.
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Old 09-08-2005, 09:13 AM
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Re: Will the change from Early gen to current gen be as or bigger on Next Gen?

The jump in graphics is noticable, but not enough so. They have not yet gotten the current consoles - well, maybe the PS2 - to the point where they seem outdated or used up. There is still potential for life in the GC and Xbox, and I view a next generation so soon as utterly pointless and a waste of our time and money.

Unfortunately, the general market, and therefore publishers, and therefore developers, do not agree. So if we want to keep playing good games, we really have no choice but to go with the flow.
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Old 09-08-2005, 10:41 AM
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Re: Will the change from Early gen to current gen be as or bigger on Next Gen?

Yeah...the current consoles still have life in them. About a year ago I would have said that the new consoles should be pushed back for a while, but now I'm just so damn interested in the Revolution's innovation.
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Old 09-08-2005, 11:18 AM
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Re: Will the change from Early gen to current gen be as or bigger on Next Gen?

Nes - Snes, dramatic/notisable grafic improvement

Snes - N64, a jump in to 3D polygon grafics

N64 - NGC, from polygon grafics to smother and sharper grafics

NGC - Next Gen, Not a very big grafical change

it seems Iwata was right, with NGC we are at the point of realism.
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Old 09-08-2005, 01:14 PM
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Re: Will the change from Early gen to current gen be as or bigger on Next Gen?

Personally I blame Sony for the impending jump into the upcoming genereation of consoles. When you look back at it, they completely upturned the consolelife cycle in the mainstream. Due to their install base and boatloads of money they are laying back prompting Microsoftto release the 360 and Nintendo to release anything to keep up. I know it's completely unfair to 'blame' anyone but they jumped put the PS2 out when they defenitly could have waited longer and had a better piece of hardware that ould have had games that held up better longer. ANd the reasonthey released it so soon was their precious little DVD. Bleh, intimidation of competition is why Microsft and Nintendo have to jum into the nextgen because Sony has theability to spring the PS3, at least theoretically, at any time with the Cell processer and a graphics card that is better than a 7800 GTX and trounce all current systems. All 3 Sony game consoles have launch at strange point in the console cycles, upsetting the standard by succeeeding doing so,the 4 could do the same.

[sarcasm]Sony says, " So.... we got a new media format, time for a new game system."[/sarcasm]

Realism in the graphics should initially be stunning, but not because it is anything never seen before. Instead it will be just more of the same. Kameo for example is focusing on impressive and large number of items on screen. Perfect Dark is just a multiplayer online game, like Halo, but with more players in each game. Warhawk(PS3) operates on the same idea as Kameo. Sony wants to tout the power of their harware, but yet again it is just more of everything. 7 players ona console? 2 HD displays? Please, keep things decent. Current console run extremely impressive games alreadyandno one has to reach for indecent abilities with what a game machine can do.

Realistic images will mean nothing the next generation unless the games have soul and do a better job of immersing you in the expirence. Otherwise it will be more of the same. Unfortunately the onlycompany that has a decent chance of better immersion is Nintendo as they are the only ones who have taken the liberty of changingthe controller. I hope this choice was to make interaction more organic.
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Old 09-08-2005, 05:31 PM
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Re: Will the change from Early gen to current gen be as or bigger on Next Gen?

The graphical leap isn't as significant as the jump from the other systems, I wasn't expecting much of a jump either, the graphics are getting harder to improve on...but Computers have been dishing out next gen graphics for quite a while, it's just that the consoles cost less. I beleive the people who are developing the graphics chip for PS3 have already stated there is going to be something avaliable for PC users that is stronger than the PS3.

I don't think Sony is releasing their PS3 till late next year, and Sony also did say that they plan on making the PS3 live for 10 years. Microsoft looks like thier setting themselves for a bit of a screw up, a company said that the Xbox 360 is already reaching maximum disc capacity. The Nintendo Revolution, now this looks like an interesting system, it's main point isn't the graphics but the way you play the game. I've heard some very good comments from the controllers from respectable sources such as Peter Molyneux and Square Enix. Depending on what the controller is like I'll either buy a Rev, or I may just decide to skip out on the next gen for a couple of years. I'll most likely end up getting a Rev and go on a downloading spree.
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:01 PM
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Re: Will the change from Early gen to current gen be as or bigger on Next Gen?

This is exactly why I admire Nintendo's creativeness as of late. I think they realize that graphics don't have much room to improve on. I don't think anyone right now can make such an intense graphics leap seem so great that that alone should be a reason to buy the system.

That's why I'm very interested in the Revolution. From what it sounds like, they'll be offering a new way to play games, and graphics just a bit better than the gamecube's. As opposed to the 360, which is trying to make little details seem so much bigger. The PS3 on the other hand might wow us enough to leave graphics as a sole reason to buy the system.
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