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Old 07-29-2005, 10:22 AM
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Why does Bowser hate peach?

Okay I've played as many mario games as possible but could never figure this out why does Bowser hate Peach?
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Old 07-29-2005, 10:28 AM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

Hate?

Bowser, is, in fact, IN LOVE with Peach.

You even figure that out in Paper Mario.

Bowser always wishes that Peach would like him. And that he could wipe Mario out. He steals the Star Rod for those reasons.

Bowser kidnaps Peach so he could convince her to love him. He hates Mario because he always gets in the way.
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Old 07-29-2005, 10:28 AM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

Don't you think its obvious. Bowser is just another villain, wanting to take over the world (in this case mushroom land) to do it, he must marry peach, then kill her, or destroy all mushroom land, and make it a wasteland of koopas.

He hates peach, cause she has what he wants, and he doesn't no how to get it, cause evrytime he tries, it ends up in dust cause of Mario. Every time he fails, he hates Peach, and the inhabitants of mushroom land even more. DUH

or believe Neglected, that works too I guess.
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Old 07-29-2005, 10:41 AM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

Neglected and lf9 got it pretty close to the mark. There could be another reason, though. She's a princess. He's an evil freakish king with a crapload of evil henchmen. It's the law that he HAS to kidnap her.

Oh, and play Paper Mario 2. That fits in with what Neglected was saying.
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Old 07-29-2005, 11:13 AM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

The first also states this. Here's a semi-direct quote from the first game. I'm too lazy to get it out and play through the first five stars, so I'll improvise.

"Bowser always wished "I wish I could trounce Mario" or "I wish Princess Peach would like me." However, we never grant such greedy wishes, so bowser stormed the Star Sanctuary and stole the Star Rod so all of his wishes could come true."

Like I said, it might not be an exact quote, but I'm not ready to spend hours getting to the Shy Guy's Toy Box or wherever to dig up the real thing.
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Old 07-29-2005, 11:44 AM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

And all of these years I always thought Bowser kidnapped the Princess to lure Mario in as bait to finally destroy him. I've only fallowed up with the NES, SNES, GB, GBC, and N64 Mario games. Anything else, I'm at a loss of information. Here's a newbie-ish Mario question. How many different Princesses (good guys, not bad) have their been in the Mario games? I know of two: Daisy & Peach Toadstool. Daisy was in Donkey Kong and Super Mario Land, and Peach was in pretty much all the rest...I think.

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Old 07-29-2005, 11:51 AM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

Well, that too. Like I said, Mario just gets in his way. If Mario's out of the picture, Bowser would be unstoppable and would be able to do whatever sick things he wanted to do to Peach.
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Old 07-29-2005, 11:53 AM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

There is a third princess, but she isn't really important to any of the games. More-so, she was just a mention in Paper Mario 2 with Luigi's Adventure- Princess L'Eclair of Waffle Kingdom. Although really the only two Princesses that have anything to do with the games is Peach and Daisy.
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Old 07-29-2005, 11:57 AM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

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There is a third princess, but she isn't really important to any of the games. More-so, she was just a mention in Paper Mario 2 with Luigi's Adventure- Princess L'Eclair of Waffle Kingdom. Although really the only two Princesses that have anything to do with the games is Peach and Daisy.
Yeah, but you only get a couple mentions, and only if you speak to Luigi.

Now, off-topic time:

do you think they should make a game where you actually go through that adventure? I've always wanted to play a game where the hero plays the grass in a play.
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:12 PM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

I don't think there's anything complicated to Bowser always kidnapping Peach. I believe it's only because he loves her, and maybe once or twice so he could get Mario outta the picture by using Peach as bait. (Although it's mainly love, Bowser even teams up with Mario to save Peach in the Mario RPG for SNES).

As for the Princesses, I think only Peach is. But that's my opinion, I can't picture Daisy as a real princess, only the Princess's sister. And I do not believe there are any others rather than Peach... Eclair shouldn't count cause she's not actually in a game where you play someone trying to save her.

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do you think they should make a game where you actually go through that adventure? I've always wanted to play a game where the hero plays the grass in a play.
Yes. I agree whole-heartedly. I thought that was great; grass... Poor Luigi, lol.
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:16 PM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

Actually, Bowser teams up with Mario and Luigi in Superstar Saga to "rescue Peach's voice" also. For about ten seconds, then the cruiser is destroyed, is ordered around by Popple, lands in Stardust Fields after being thrown from the psychotic Beanstar, and is finally taken over by Cacklette to become... BOWLETTA!!!!!
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

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I've always wanted to play a game where the hero plays the grass in a play.
This is the first time I've ever heard of that expression....does it mean "I've always wanted to play a game where the hero isn't the main character"? Well if that's what it means, I have good news. IGN made an article about nine months ago about a game called "Super Princess Peach DS" and this time, it is Mario who get's kidnapped (as weird as this is going to sound but, finally they've made a game like this. I don't mind a "Princess in distress", but come on, they should have a new story by now). Click on the link above to read a little more about it.

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Old 07-29-2005, 12:24 PM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

In reference to BGS's latter post:Thats very strange...IMO it seems better to have the Hero the main character. Of course there should be some kind of twists or a original crisis unlike the ''Damsel in Distress'' gimmick. Who knows, it might be a worty experience...although I don't really approve of those kinds of things...

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This is the first time I've ever heard of that expression....does it mean "I've always wanted to play a game where the hero isn't the main character"? Well if that's what it means, I have good news. IGN made an article about nine months ago about a game called "Super Princess Peach DS" and this time, it is Mario who get's kidnapped (as weird as this is going to sound but, finally they've made a game like this. I don't mind a "Princess in distress", but come on, they should have a new story by now). Click on the link above to read a little more about it.

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Well, yes and no. Yes, because The hero of the game series overall isn't the main hero of that specific game. No, because I mean the hero of that game plays the role of grass in the show. And I can't imagine Mario getting kidnapped and Peach saving him. If they do that, they should do the same with a Zelda game. It will give Zelda a reason to wield that sword.
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And all of these years I always thought Bowser kidnapped the Princess to lure Mario in as bait to finally destroy him. I've only fallowed up with the NES, SNES, GB, GBC, and N64 Mario games. Anything else, I'm at a loss of information. Here's a newbie-ish Mario question. How many different Princesses (good guys, not bad) have their been in the Mario games? I know of two: Daisy & Peach Toadstool. Daisy was in Donkey Kong and Super Mario Land, and Peach was in pretty much all the rest...I think.

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There is Princess toadstoll. Oh and yes Bowser is in love with princess peach.
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Uh...Princess Toadstool is Princess Peach.

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Daisy was in Donkey Kong
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No she wasn't. Daisy wasn't in Donkey Kong, and the girl in Donkey Kong wasn't a princess. She was called Pauline, and she was Mario's girlfriend
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Old 07-29-2005, 03:51 PM
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No she wasn't. Daisy wasn't in Donkey Kong, and the girl in Donkey Kong wasn't a princess. She was called Pauline, and she was Mario's girlfriend
Ah thank you for that correction. So we have three damsels in distress: Pauline(Donkey Kong), Princess Daisy (Super Mario Land), and Princess Peach Toadstool (all the other games).

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Well, yes and no. Yes, because The hero of the game series overall isn't the main hero of that specific game. No, because I mean the hero of that game plays the role of grass in the show. And I can't imagine Mario getting kidnapped and Peach saving him. If they do that, they should do the same with a Zelda game. It will give Zelda a reason to wield that sword.
Well we still don't know why Princess Zelda is weilding that sword (maybe she'll be considered a "warrior princess", meaning instead of being on the thrown all day and acting "lady-like", she will be fighting...or at least defending herself from Ganon's minions in the castle....ok now we've gone completely off topic, this is suppose to be about Bowser/Mario/Mushroom Kingdom, not about Zelda), but there was a CD-i game that did consist of Zelda being the main playable character (but that's not considered an official game of Nintendo...).

Ok, enough off topic discussion, and let's get back to Bowser...

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Old 07-29-2005, 04:21 PM
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Re: Why does Bowser hate peach?

Out of interest, how come Princess Daisy is held captive by the alien, Tatanga?
After rescuing her, what happens to her, and why does Mario end up with Princes Peach?
That's always confused me lol!
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Old 07-29-2005, 04:21 PM
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This is the first time I've ever heard of that expression....does it mean "I've always wanted to play a game where the hero isn't the main character"?
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Uh, it's not an expression.. in Paper Mario 2, Luigi tells Mario that he had to play the part of a clump of grass in a theatre before.
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