Your "Controversial" Gaming Opinion

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

What's uninspired about the game? The story, setting, and characters are completely original, free of bull♥♥♥♥ cliches that the old Final Fantasies have used for hundreds of years.

Just sayin'.

Along with them basically admitting that Lightning is "a female Cloud Strife" and the plot being a combination of VII's super steampunk and X's religious conspiracy.

There's a certain point where you start having to use "strategy" but this basically amounts to setting up effective buff/debuff, healing/defensive, and offensive paradigms and switching between them at the obvious moments. Some bosses require a bit of attention to their attack patterns (and these are the best battles in the game), but in general you can buff yourself to high heavens and attack like crazy and you'll win.

Originally Posted by OneHungryHippo

I think you are wrong. And that's my controversial opinion.

Fine, I'll admit I was making a gross overestimation with the "a few cool characters" part.

Originally Posted by Cereal Bawks

Er... FE was more like "gameplay over story". Just look at Sacred Stones.

Too bad I still find the gameplay to be way too boring anyway.

Originally Posted by BloodRawEngine89

Fine, I'll admit I was making a gross overestimation with the "a few cool characters" part.

Too bad I still find the gameplay to be way too boring anyway.

You are still wrong, in my eyes. And that is why this opinion is still, controversial.

My "controversial" gaming opinions?
Honey, you don't want to know.

1- Graphics should not matter when you're picking out game to buy.
2- I like linear games that give you the feel of exploration, but keep you on a predetermined path.
3- I bought a 3DS at launch. That statement alone should say enough.
4- I value replayability over the actual amount of time it takes to finish a game.
5- The GameCube is my favorite Nintendo console.

Originally Posted by Lex

Just sayin'.

Along with them basically admitting that Lightning is "a female Cloud Strife" and the plot being a combination of VII's super steampunk and X's religious conspiracy.

There's a certain point where you start having to use "strategy" but this basically amounts to setting up effective buff/debuff, healing/defensive, and offensive paradigms and switching between them at the obvious moments. Some bosses require a bit of attention to their attack patterns (and these are the best battles in the game), but in general you can buff yourself to high heavens and attack like crazy and you'll win.

Just saying what? Black guy with an afro? Cliche? Yeah, but you're missing the point; Sazh has to live with the guilt of his son turning into crystal, he's depressed and has thoughts of suicide over blaming himself for his son's eternal rest. Sazh is a very deep character, but if you only looked at his appearance, you wouldn't find that. Compare this to the archetypal hero bull♥♥♥♥ early-mid FF games have, and you can see the characters in 13 have a lot more depth and nuances.

And oh God.
Lightning does not = Cloud! Okay. In the early stages of development, Toriyama told Nomura to create a strong, independent female, "someone like Cloud", but she doesn't look or act like him in the slightest.

I've never played 10, but 13's plot is not at all like 7's.

And how is 13's battle system any worse than any other JRPG's? It's sure as hell more complex than say, Golden Sun's.

Originally Posted by Kaylomaylo

3- I bought a 3DS at launch. That statement alone should say enough.

I hope you're not using this as saying you're the biggest Nintendo fan ever. I've been a huge Nintendo all my life, but I'm also extremely poor. Thus, I wasn't able to get a 3DS when it first came out. Doesn't make me any less of a fan than you though.

I think it's controversial because at launch new systems are generally higher priced than they are a few weeks or months later, and the 3DS wasn't that big a thing. For a lot of the community, there didn't seem to be that huge a pull for it, because it lacked opening day games, so it seemed pointless at first because it wasn't really that useful until other games began to get released.

Serah > Lightning

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

DIS GAME GOOD CUZ IT PURTY AND HAVE GUYZ WIT SWORDZ AND EMOTIONZ

Ok, so you spent your entire post talking about the characters/plot and posted some screens to show how cool all those things in the background look.

This doesn't counter-point the fact that the game had a lame battle system and mostly took place in virtual hallways.

I really, really, hate Ff13.

Also, it makes no sense to say you don't take me seriously while at the same time responding to me.

-I actually liked FF13/-2's battle system, you actually have to pit thought into it

Originally Posted by Tacoman

I think it's controversial because at launch new systems are generally higher priced than they are a few weeks or months later, and the 3DS wasn't that big a thing. For a lot of the community, there didn't seem to be that huge a pull for it, because it lacked opening day games, so it seemed pointless at first because it wasn't really that useful until other games began to get released.

Yeah thanks! I didn't mean to sound like a total jerk haha and I am so poor too it made it that much more funny that I bought something for $250 dollars. =]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

And oh God.
Lightning does not = Cloud! Okay. In the early stages of development, Toriyama told Nomura to create a strong, independent female, "someone like Cloud", but she doesn't look or act like him in the slightest.

I've never played 10, but 13's plot is not at all like 7's.

I have to agree. Cloud was a whiny depressed little ♥♥♥♥♥.
Lighting is a tough chick. Two different things entirely.

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Originally Posted by Tigerboi

Ok, so you spent your entire post talking about the characters/plot and posted some screens to show how cool all those things in the background look.

This doesn't counter-point the fact that the game had a lame battle system and mostly took place in virtual hallways.

Except it had a pretty cool battle system.
Which I will admit was boring for the first 20 hours. Which is unacceptable of course.
But once you got access to every role, every character and more paradigms, things certainly got a lot more interesting.

The only thing I'd like to see changed, and I'm sure it will cause a seperate debate entirely... Is i'd prefer to take out the ATB, give me a little more time to strategize.
Not sure if that would work as well, or if it's even needed though. So i'm not overly upset about it.

Originally Posted by Ty

I have to agree. Cloud was a whiny depressed little ♥♥♥♥♥.

Cloud had some pretty severe psychological issues and we saw him through the worst of it. But on whole he was actually quite strong, confident, and positive.

Ever since Kingdom Hearts came out he's been shown how you say but for those of us that actually remember him he can never be called such.

Wait, people liked FF13's story? That ♥♥♥♥ was poison for the mind.

I'm probably gonna get major flamed for this and I appoligise if this offends you, but here I go,

I find it both annoying and sort of self entitlement when people complain about a gaming company forsaking them for not sticking for the series roots or just being greedy because they have an immense amount of Nostalgia without realizing their being a bit unfair, Its one thing to prefer an older game in the series for a newer incarnation, but its another when you go on a tangent about how the company is abandoning its core audience because it wants to expand its user base and stating that any new people that enjoy the newer games are "sheep" or "drones". and I see this happening in a lot of franchises!

Minecraft is allright.

I never particular loved PC Gaming!

Originally Posted by TheGhostOfMandrag

Cloud had some pretty severe psychological issues and we saw him through the worst of it. But on whole he was actually quite strong, confident, and positive.

He had good reason for being in a sour mood most the time.

Originally Posted by TheGhostOfMandrag

Cloud had some pretty severe psychological issues and we saw him through the worst of it. But on whole he was actually quite strong, confident, and positive.

Ever since Kingdom Hearts came out he's been shown how you say but for those of us that actually remember him he can never be called such.

Yeah, I never viewed Cloud as a whiny, emo kid with the exception of Kingdom Hearts. He had a right to be depressed. He went through a lot. With Zack dying, him being told that his memories aren't real and he is just an experiment created 5 years ago, and Aeris dying.

Even if you try to descrbe him like that, Luke von Fabre did a better job at all of that. Cloud wasn't a depressed ♥♥♥♥♥ so much as a fickle tool in FFVII who stopped being anything along the lines of "strong, confident, or positive" when you realize he's trying to be two or so other different kinds of archetypes from that one at the same time and then for no reason whatsoever becomes a completely self-loathing pity boat. Cloud only ever came of as them trying to make him act tough, whereas Lightning was only tough because she was such a volatile ♥♥♥♥♥.

Hey guys

imma let you finish

but final fantasy IX is the best final fantasy of all time

Originally Posted by OneHungryHippo

Yeah, I never viewed Cloud as a whiny, emo kid with the exception of Kingdom Hearts. He had a right to be depressed. He went through a lot. With Zack dying, him being told that his memories aren't real and he is just an experiment created 5 years ago, and Aeris dying.

Then het got depressed in Advent Children for whatever reason.