Super Smash Bros. Wii U (Gameplay Physics)

His sword was shortened, and it's much more difficult to pull off his tipper. If I recall correctly, his side-B can no longer be used to stall in the air while moving him horizontally -- or at least, it's not as effective. These, together with Brawl's physics and nearly nonexistent hit-stun, really make him a much weaker character than he was in Melee.

I do, however, like how he can zoom across the stage, in the air, with a fully-charged neutral B. That can be kinda fun to do.

Originally Posted by Scorpionz

Both,but more close to brawl's,Melee was too unbalanced,and the physics are to blame a little.

Melee is unbalanced? Don't forget Brawl has GOD TIER Meta Night which was so overpowered that he actually got banned. Characters that were actually good in Melee were turned into ♥♥♥♥ in Brawl.The overall skill between a top tier and a low tier is large in Brawl than in Melee.

Yoshi looks like ♥♥♥♥ in Melee.



Don't know what they were smoking...

Apparently the reason why nintendo revamp the physics in brawl was so that the game could appeal to casual gamers.
Even know that roy, pichu, dr mario are fun to play they are still overrated character to use.
Roy is nothing but a clone of marth with only enhencement that differ him from marth was his fire attacks, The only reason why he came to exist in Melee was because the developers wanted to promote the game he was gonna appear in.

Roy's mah boy! D:

Originally Posted by Zecora

Roy's mah boy! D:

This, but you can't forget Lyn and her epicness.

Lyn would have been awesome.

Originally Posted by Zecora

Lyn would have been awesome.

Using characters as assist trophies = fanbase trolling.

I would have wanted to do this in Brawl.

Originally Posted by cloneofshadow

No one has mentioned tripping yet?

i played the ♥♥♥♥ out of brawl, and never once noticed tripping.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Being mid-tier didn't mean the character was viable at high levels of play.

If you competed against top levels, you used; Fox, Falco, Marth, Shiek, Jigglypuff and maybe Peach or Falcon. Otherwise, you got your ass handed to you.

And those six characters pretty made up the elite levels of play. Brawl has it's own problems with Meta Knight, but it has far more viable characters than Melee ever did.

QFT!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111

Originally Posted by cloneofshadow

Melee is unbalanced? Don't forget Brawl has GOD TIER Meta Night which was so overpowered that he actually got banned.

Brawl had like, three "OP" characters (yes, including the ridiculous Metaknight), but as Jeff said above, there are only 6~ characters who are viable to kickass with in melee. Slow characters were an absolute joke in SSBM, whereas they are a pretty legitimate pick in Brawl.

Speed was the only factor in melee. Nothing else matted. Sure, Peach wasn't the fastest character, was still viable, but for the most part, speed kills.

Originally Posted by Notsil

Slow characters were an absolute joke in SSBM, whereas they are a pretty legitimate pick in Brawl.

DeeDeeDe is probably the only viable "slow" character in Brawl.Other "slow" characters like Ganon and Bowser are tiered extremely low in Brawl.

TBH slow characters were never good in Smash.

Originally Posted by Notsil

Speed was the only factor in melee. Nothing else matted. Sure, Peach wasn't the fastest character, was still viable, but for the most part, speed kills.

You would think speed would be awesome in brawl to... but then there was Sonic. Everyone thought he was going to be great, top tier, but quite frankly no. He's good at racking up hit damage, but it's hard connecting his smash attacks to finish.

I'd prefer something in between the two so that everyone is happy.

^ Wouldn't that do the exact opposite?

^Well people either like one or the other, so combining the two could give a nice mix. btw, the worst thing in brawl is tripping. It gets on my nerves.

I guess we have a fifty-fifty chance of people either unanimously liking or hating such a compromise.

Originally Posted by Notsil

i played the ♥♥♥♥ out of brawl, and never once noticed tripping.

It only happens when you run. Did you never run?

Brawl had like, three "OP" characters (yes, including the ridiculous Metaknight), but as Jeff said above, there are only 6~ characters who are viable to kickass with in melee. Slow characters were an absolute joke in SSBM, whereas they are a pretty legitimate pick in Brawl.

Ganondorf was a slow Melee character, but he's a LOT more kickass in Melee than in Brawl. A good Melee Ganondorf player, such as myself, can actually make him move pretty fast. He still might have a hard time against, say, a Fox, but who doesn't?

Originally Posted by Zecora

Tripping has never bothered me. In fact, I usually get some laughs out of it.

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