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Re: |OT| Pokemon (Black & White): Thread of Darmanitastic!

How long do you reckon it'll be before they release a Grey?
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Old 03-22-2011, 04:23 PM
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How long do you reckon it'll be before they release a Grey?
DP to Pt was about... three years I believe? (2006-2009) Around a span of two to three years, which is a reasonable amount of time to make a Pokemon game for the 3DS.

I want to nickname Volcarona Aphidelios, thoughts?
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:09 PM
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Re: |OT| Pokemon (Black & White): Thread of Darmanitastic!

Alright, going back to B/W for a second...

Here's how my team's looking so far:

Pacific (Samurott), 38
Mogu (Excadrill), 34
Snappy (Krokorok), 33
Kukulkan (Archeops), 37
Manhattan (Tranquill), 30
Arania (or rather, Arańa) (Joltik*), 31

I just beat Clay, and am currently in Chargestone Cave. I decided to catch a Joltik just to experiment with it. I thought it had in interesting typing as well. Is it worth it?
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:14 PM
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I would say yes.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:19 PM
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I want pokemon white!
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I want pokemon white!
What is stopping you, exactly? They are great games, perhaps the best Pokemon games- scratch that- they are the best.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:52 PM
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I played Crystal right after I played Blue- my first Pokemon game- and was not really astounded.
But I still maintain my belief in Black and White.

I don't necessarily care about improvements- just the game in general. As much as I love the new games for their new additions, I feel that as a whole they are excellent games.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:16 PM
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Re: |OT| Pokemon (Black & White): Thread of Darmanitastic!

I just realized my ditto is jolly, and this means I can use it to breed jolly Axews (or any other pokemon that would be good jolly) for competitive purposes. If anyone wants one just let me know.

I also have a Deino and Gligar I don't particularly need so if anyone wants them, again let me know.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:19 PM
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It had more new ideas than even RBY did, and RBY invented the IDEA OF POKéMON.
That's a very tough case to make. Everything you see in RBY was new at the time, so by default it beats out every single generation at "new ideas". To compare, GSC would have had to reinvent the entire genre, and I mean beyond polishing the mechanics.

GSC was all about adding stuff that needed to be added, and polishing mechanics that needed to be polished. It certainly didn't add more ideas than RBY did, but it did add more than any generation after it.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:29 PM
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Re: |OT| Pokemon (Black & White): Thread of Darmanitastic!

Yeah, but I'd like to see something new but not too drastically new. Hopefully that will happen on the 3DS. Like maybe have an RPG type(if pokemon doesn't already count as one) or maybe even first person. It's interesting to think about, but right now I am perfectly happy with the game it is now. Though I think it would be cool to have a 3D pokemon game with the battles like battle revolution or something. I was hoping B/W would have done that(before I saw the gameplay) but I guess that's beyond the DS's comprehension at the moment.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:39 PM
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Really the best thing about GSC which they never did again was 2 regions in one game.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:39 PM
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Breeding ALONE reinvented the genre. It was no longer simply catch and battle - you could breed a mother with the species you wanted with a father with the moves you wanted to create babies who had both of the above plus randomized IVs. You were no longer a Pokémon Trainer, you were a breeder/trainer.
Tons of new additions does not a good game make.
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Old 03-22-2011, 06:45 PM
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I'm not sure how what I said and what you said are related.
I said Black and White are the best PKMN games, you pointed out new additions in G/S/C from R/B and from what you said I can assume you believe G/S/C are the best games.

However, tons of new additions alone does not make a good game. I wasn't even talking about the idea of reinventing the genre or presenting a big leap forward, I'm just talking about the games in general.

Did G/S/C have a good storyline, characters, music, Pokemon, and gameplay? Of course it did, but I happen to like Black and White more.
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No, my point was yes: B/W probably IS the best generation... but probably only in a cumulative sense. I said this. The Dream World, when we get it, may change my opinion (though I doubt it), but until then I don't think it's THAT much of an improvement, and in fact I REALLY miss little things like proper pokémon contests and having the first in your party follow you around.
I never really liked the contests, I actually really enjoy the Pokemon musical much more thank you very much.
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No, my point was yes: B/W probably IS the best generation... but probably only in a cumulative sense. The Dream World, when we get it, may change my opinion (though I doubt it), but until then I don't think it's THAT much of an improvement, and in fact I REALLY miss little things like proper pokémon contests and having the first in your party follow you around.
I don't care about improvements, really. I would not have minded if Black and White didn't have battle animations or large amounts of three-dee graphics, it has an excellent soundtrack, characters and Pokemon designs to help me enjoy it. Any new additions are icing to the cake.

There are no Pokemon contests existent in BW to miss "proper" Pokemon contests.

(honestly the following Pokemon thing was cool but sort of ruined because of the ugly 4th generation overworld sprites and how ugly some of the Pokemon sprites were, but I'm hoping for it to return of course)
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(honestly the following Pokemon thing was cool but sort of ruined because of the ugly 4th generation overworld sprites and how ugly some of the Pokemon sprites were, but I'm hoping for it to return of course)
I agree, the sprites were really stupid. I was so excited to finally get a glimpse of my favorite pokemon to follow me, and the first one being Deoxys, when I went outside I felt like throwing my DS outof the window. It was just dumb looking. But hopefully they will redeem themselves in Gray(or whatever the color may be)by putting moreeffort into overworld sprites of pokemon outside of Johto/Kanto.

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Well the Super Contests of Sinnoh were fairly crappy but I actually really enjoyed the regular contests of Hoenn. And pokéthlons have been abandoned too. So judging by the pattern, I wouldn't get too attached to musicals if I were you.

I keep waiting for them to bring back the regular contests... *sniff*
Ohhhh, those contests! I keep thinking too much of the Sinnoh ones, I kept wishing that the contests in the Anime would be brought in the games, where you actually battle pokemon. Of course that didn't happen, nothing in the anime is logical. But yeah, the Hoenn ones were awesome. I find it cool that the people in the Big Stadium/Small Court make reference to the Pokeathalon.
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1. Although I'm not going to be one of those people who say "new pokémon designs are crap; the only good designs are from the first 251", I DO have to admit that Game Freak seem to be slowly running out of ideas. The soundtrack has yet to grow on me in the way the first 3 generations did, and the characters... well, suffice it to say that I'm confused that you're bringing them up as making the games the best.
After reading this for about the five thousand fortieth time, I am willing to end discussion on this right away and instead discuss something else.
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1. Although I'm not going to be one of those people who say "new pokémon designs are crap; the only good designs are from the first 251",
I disagree. I think every region has its good and bad designs, I mean even some of the first 251 had some bad ones. Afterthat, gen 3 had metagross, sceptile, blaziken, RAYQUAZA , deoxys, (list goes on), and then for gen 4 there was garchomp, gabite, gallade, well, you get the point. I think it follows the same pattern every time. In B/W's case, again, some pokemon were good looking, and others just plain butt ugly.
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That's true but it seems to me that the number of good designs from Emerald and back are higher than of Diamond/Pearl and Black and White. I have officially accepted RBY,SPR, and EMR as being just as good as the original two games.


Oh and Gamefreak does seem to be getting lazy a bit....ya know, Zubat...Woobat... lol.
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All I said was that Game Freak seem to be running out of ideas. Mesprit, Uxie and Azelf are basically Mews with bells and whistles (boring), Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus are boring (one would've been fine but apparently we need three), Pansage, Panpour, Pansear and their evolutions are boring (again: why did we need three?),
How is this indication of running out of ideas, besides you personally disliking these designs and slapping labels on them?
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