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Old 06-07-2004, 06:58 AM
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Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

THIS IS NOT A CRITISISM, MERELY AN OBSERVATION!

Have you noticed that people who prefer Nintendo's style of games tends to have very different personalities to other gamers??

I have found that in a social situation, the people I connect with best tend to be the people who like the same games as me. For instance, most people who think Mario 64 is ****, and love Halo also hate me lol.

I would compare it to people who buy top 40 CD's, they are after a quick fix instead of a true experience.

In case you were wondering I own a PC (obviously), n64, gamecube and ps2.

the only games on the ps2 I ever play are GT3 a spec and GTA vice city.
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Old 06-07-2004, 08:06 AM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

Most of the X-Box ad PS2 fans I know, are the preps, and cool people of the grade. One time I proved that GCN is stronger than PS2, but they didn't listen. Anyway I do believe you.

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Old 06-07-2004, 08:07 AM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

Well, as I see it, the Microsoft/Xbox fans are mostly the PC junkies (I mean, you can just download a game and place it on an empty CD and insert it into your chipped Xbox, and there you have it - free games), and the Sony/PS2 fans are mostly people who like RPGs and japanese cartoons.
As for the Nintendo/Gamecube fans... that's most of the people on ZU, right? Sometimes a bit too much fanboyism, almost all of us love Zelda (if not, what is one doing here?), and that's kind off all I can bring up about us Nintendo fans.
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Old 06-07-2004, 08:28 AM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

Eh, I'm a Sony and Nintendo fan. You see, Nintendo fans are not arrogrant to other systems but pretty open. It's most Xbox fans that are total d**** and pricks.
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Old 06-07-2004, 09:31 AM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

Where I live the PC junkies stick to PC's and just pirate PC games, I tend to find there are 2 types of xbox owner though....those who own every console and those for whom Xbox is their first games machine, they are the ones who believe the hype. My younger brother still goes to school and he also says the "cool" kids have Xboxs

Also for the ps2 guy, I was talking about anyone who has a gamecube as being a nintendo fan, even if you have a ps2 as well (as I do) or even an Xbox

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Well, as I see it, the Microsoft/Xbox fans are mostly the PC junkies (I mean, you can just download a game and place it on an empty CD and insert it into your chipped Xbox, and there you have it - free games), and the Sony/PS2 fans are mostly people who like RPGs and japanese cartoons.
As for the Nintendo/Gamecube fans... that's most of the people on ZU, right? Sometimes a bit too much fanboyism, almost all of us love Zelda (if not, what is one doing here?), and that's kind off all I can bring up about us Nintendo fans.


What you said here illustrates what I waht talking about, (the nintendo fans don't all just go for genre or setting, they go for good games). Apart from the fanboys you mentioned though, they are afflicted with the same disease as the Xbox Disciples because they complain about things like Tww being crap because there is no cuccos. People who whinge about cel shading are in the same category, I thought it was a great opportunity for the art design to shine through.
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Old 06-07-2004, 09:35 AM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

Just so I won't offend anyone, I'll just open the message with saying that this is just another another observasion. Not critisism... That ok?

Well, I guess the reason for Nintendo being so different from other consoles goes back a few decades. Back at the day, Nintendo did aim (not intentionally) at the younger players, and has so ever since. I mean, look at games like Mario and all the other clones that Nintendo produced. Whenever there was something gory or somewhat violent about the games that were produced for NES, chancs were that they wouldn't be the Nintendoquality mark on the box, or the game would sometimes just be denied from ever coming to shelfes. There was a game for NES way back when called Contra, and it pretty much featured some characters just going crazy, swelming in blood and dead corpses. When it finally hit the shelfes in US and EU, it was severely censored. The lead characters were replaced with army robots, all the blood was removed and the there were no longer corpses. Also, the only reason that the Final Fantasy games for NES (except for the fist one) never made the shelfes outside japan was that it was more aimed at older players. The characters pretty much swore all the time, and there even was an instance in the game where the lead character lost his pants! The only real reason that those games never made our shelfes is that Nintendo didn't want to lose their image of being the charming console. It aimed for the younger players.

Nintendo has kept that image ever since. It still aims at the 7-14 year old players, at least with their own productions. They never really did want to lose their image of being that child-friendly charming console. As a result, most of Nintendos fans are the younger players or the old Nintendo fanboys that has stuck around since the old NES days. The rest of the gaming community just prefers the 17+ rated games. They consider themselves more cool that way (not offending anyone).
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Old 06-07-2004, 10:01 AM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

well in one of teh interviews I read here when WW2 (or whatever) video was shown, that nintendo had a lot of more adult themed games, and the reason for that was to have games for everyone, not the rating, but trying to aim for people other then kids and fanboys(girls )

anyway, it's ture you don't see any popular guys at school playing a gamecube, no they wanna play the 18+ games so they can see cyber bodies and use guns. -_-; Thankfully I'm happy that nintendo doesn't support those kinda games (yet.. hopefully they won't. o_o; ) since I belive it's giving games a bad image, and making good games like zelda and mario look like kiddy games cuz it isn't T or M rated...

hope that made sense. basicly gamecube owners look more at quailty instead of the ratings.
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Old 06-07-2004, 10:12 AM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

As comprehensive as this is, (**rolls eyes**) The war between consoles is old news. I think most of this stupidity has receded, and now we're left without real discrimination. This is due mostly to Nintendo and Sony broading horizons enough for all sorts of gamers. Most serious gamers own more than one console.

On a side note, I am surprised that this thread got this far without the omnipresent SearanoX moving it to General Gaming.

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Old 06-07-2004, 10:13 AM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

I have had a PS2, but sold that to get my Gamecube. I (obviously) bought the GC for Zelda, Mario, Metroid etc. I find Nintendo machines always have the better quality games (instead of out and out violence, which I like sometimes, but... it gets boring) than most of its rivals. I'm fairly impartial to any of the other consoles, but I find some of their oners to be pretty ignorant of 'different' games/games consoles. Most games more exclusive to PS2 and XBox are released on PC anyway (Driver 1, Driver 2, Driv3r, GTA3 and VC etc).
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Old 06-07-2004, 10:32 AM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

TheCoke, I will admit that Nintendos conservative attitude is it's worst point and is probably outdated for the times but the fact remains that their games are more fun to play than those on other consoles regardless of the cencorship. I have Call of duty and soldier of fortune 2, call of duty is a better game even though Sof2 lets you cavitate peoples heads and call of duty doesn't even have painskins.

While Nintendos worst point is it's conservatism it's best point is it's innovation, They are practically the only company who ensures their control systems work properly (PC excluded). Most 3d games still copy the ideas of Mario 64 and Oot (four camera buttons, z targeting etc)
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Old 06-07-2004, 12:01 PM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

Well I have always tried to get every console that has came out I have consoles right back to NES and to the present day ones. And Nintendo games are always into more animated graphics I think. I have always liked Nintendo better than Sony and Xbox and I think that I always will.
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Old 06-07-2004, 12:30 PM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

Its like everything else:
You relate with persons that have your same music tastes.
You relate to eprsons that have the same movie tastes
You relate to persons that like the same books.

Is that simple, fans of consoles arent "that" different, each console fans just relate to persons that like the same console.
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Old 06-07-2004, 03:12 PM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

I find that people who like the XBox and PS2 are those that tend to listen to the trendy music, wear the in-style clothing, and care more about their cell phone than they do their friends. Having a PS2 or an XBox is the "cool" thing to do, because they advertise on MTV, and of course, MTV is what you watch if you're cool. Nintendo is still regarded as being a toy, rather than a high-tech piece of equipment. The reasons for this, in my mind, are the appearance of the console, and the games.

Now, let's face it. The GameCube is not an attractive console at all. It's a cube, it's purple, and it has a handle on it. People compare it to a lunchbox all the time, and they aren't exaggerating in the least. It console simply looks bad - it's not sleek, sexy, or sophisticated. It looks like something your kid brother plays with. And of course, in a teenage society where appearance is everything quite a lot of the time, looks are going to be the first thing judged, whether you like it or not.

As for the games, people are still under the impression that Nintendo is for children only. Games like Zelda and Mario are still considered "kiddie", despite Nintendo's efforts to get rid of this image. However, despite the fact that there are many M-rated games for the console, they are simply not exposed. It's apparent wherever you go. If I look at an electronics store flyer, I'll see Sony and Microsoft featuring pages of games, multiple bundles, etc.. Nintendo, on the other hand, is shoved into its own corner, displaying the Game Boy Advance on one side, and the GameCube on the other side. The titles shown for both of the consoles (although much less the Game Boy Advance) are all older games, such as Mario, Star Fox, and Zelda. I can name quite a few M-rated games for the console, yet none of them ever show up anywhere at all. Rather, they insist on displaying the old games that everyone has bought already. There is seldom a GameCube gamer who does not own Metroid Prime, The Legend Of Zelda: The Wind Waker, or Super Mario Sunshine, and even fewer who haven't heard of these games.

This lack of advertising for new and "mature" games is Nintendo's biggest problems. Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, for example, was hyped up to an incredible extent. It was given very good reviews (although not so high as Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty), and the Internet crowd of gamers immediately snatched the game up upon release. But they were the only ones that bought the game. There were very few advertisements for the game outside of the Internet. I could count the number of television advertisements and magazine advertisements that I've seen for the game on one hand. The same fate befell Eternal Darkness. If gamers don't know about these M-rated games, how is it then that they are going to sell well, and lift the "kiddie" image from Nintendo?

Getting back to the social groups themselves, I believe that Nintendo's fans are generally the smarter ones, the more original ones, and the ones that tend to not like to go along with the crowd. I know very, very few people that own a GameCube (or have even played one), and they're all the "loners", "unpopulars", and "differents". I know a few people, for instance, who listen to Heavy Metal. Most of them own a GameCube. Almost everyone that listens to trendy music and wears preppy clothing owns either a PS2 or an XBox.

When it comes to message boards, PS2 and XBox fans (generalisation) tend to be the more ignorant and defensive ones. They tend to use improper grammar and spelling, and often get into flame wars over consoles, despite the Nintendo fans' best efforts to discuss and argue in an intelligent way. For a quick example of this, visit the GameSpot forums. Nintendo fans are branded as "Cubers" and when they venture outside of the Nintendo forums, they often get flamed on sight whenever they say something even remotely related to Nintendo.

So yes, different consoles do attract different social groups of people, just as different music, clothing, and food attracts different social groups. There are always, always exceptions to this, of course, but everything does.

Oh, and sorry for the rambling.
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Old 06-07-2004, 03:13 PM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

i own a PS2 and a Gamecube, and ill admit it, PS2 has some better games than Gamecube, and vice versa, im into RPG's and Action/Adventure games (Zelda), the games i play for PS2 mainly are: Castlevania: Lament of Innocence, Devil May Cry 1/2, Final Fantasy (whichever i can get my hands on, (beat 7,9,10 currently attempting to beat 8)), and Wild Arms 3, for Gamecube: Metroid Prime, Zelda: The WindWaker, F-Zero, and Veiwtiful Joe (can't spell) and i too find that the abercrombie and fitch/american eagle wearers tend to own X-Box's im not saying i dont play sports but i dont wear AF, or AE me, i play baseball, hockey, and skate, and why am i getting off topic, sorry everyone but i too find the AF,AE wearers (not labeling) tend to own X-Box's
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Old 06-07-2004, 03:17 PM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

It's long Sear, but it's true! Oh it's true, it's true!

By the way, I think black Gamecubes look kinda sexy and stylish :p
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Old 06-07-2004, 03:30 PM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

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The GameCube is not an attractive console at all. It's a cube, it's purple, and it has a handle on it.
I'm rather fond of purple cubes. And handles. Honestly, I find that as far as design, the size of it puts it above th other consoles almost right away. And it doesn't look like just another piece of electronics under your TV -- it has colour, even character, you could say.
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Old 06-07-2004, 03:34 PM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

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I'm rather fond of purple cubes. And handles. Honestly, I find that as far as design, the size of it puts it above th other consoles almost right away. And it doesn't look like just another piece of electronics under your TV -- it has colour, even character, you could say.
That is true, but as I said, it's different than everything else. Looking different can very often be a bad thing. Plus, Nintendo's console really doesn't look good at all. Sure, it's unique, but does that mean that people are going to go buy it? In a world where fitting in is all that many people hope for (and to some length, strive to do), being different can mean the difference (no pun intended) between being popular and unpopular. I, myself, would like to see something original from Nintendo, but not something that looks rediculous because of this originality.
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Old 06-07-2004, 04:12 PM
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Re: Why are Nintendo fans so different to sony/Xbox fans?

gameboy sp, now thats original and the new DS coming out whenever is original..
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Old 06-07-2004, 05:59 PM