The New Super Mario Bros. Wii Thread of Great Level Design *CLAPCLAPCLAP*

Originally Posted by Sam

I'm not sure, but I think they're still referred to as sprites whether they're 2D or 3D, Tonchiki, though I'm unsure of the exact definition.

Sprites are a single texture; So technically this game doesn't use sprites.

I'm also confused why generic toads were used instead of some Mario characters with personality. Why no love for Wario?

Originally Posted by JoGoron

I'm also confused why generic toads were used instead of some Mario characters with personality. Why no love for Wario?

Probably because Wario's an ass, and would therefore only try to save Peach if she was going to bake a cake at the end.

Originally Posted by Tonchiki

Probably because Wario's an ass, and would therefore only try to save Peach if she was going to bake a cake at the end.

One toad should have stayed, but two? No, I want something else. Wario would be good. Or maybe Peach, and have them battling Bowser for a different reason.

Originally Posted by King KK

One toad should have stayed, but two? No, I want something else. Wario would be good. Or maybe Peach, and have them battling Bowser for a different reason.

Didn't you hear me say before that I wasn't sure why both Toads stayed?
Wario really is the only sensical character they could put there, since all the others are more minor and they can't put Yoshi. Well they could, but it'd be strange.

The game looks awesome, and I'm defiantly getting it around christmas. Finally, the koopa kids return.

Originally Posted by Tonchiki

Probably because Wario's an ass, and would therefore only try to save Peach if she was going to bake a cake at the end.

Couldn't they write around his ass-ness?

No Waluigi though. He deserves to a special place in hell.

Originally Posted by JoGoron

No Waluigi though. He deserves to a special place in hell.

Hey hey HEY, Waluigi is ****ING AWESOME.

Originally Posted by JoGoron

Couldn't they write around his ass-ness?

Nah, some people should be kept in-character.

Wario would have been quite the appropriate character to throw in there though, since it focuses a lot on competition as well as cooperation. Wario with his greedy personality is perfect for competitive play where you're supposed to get the most points (especially since coins are involved).

If only it had been Mario, Luigi, Toad and Peach.

Originally Posted by Tonchiki

Hey hey HEY, Waluigi is ****ING AWESOME.

Exactly.

Toad is a badass, though, especially if you played Super Mario Bros. 2 (US version). I guess Nintendo thought the game needed two Toads to be really badass.

Originally Posted by Dread

Exactly.

Toad is a badass, though, especially if you played Super Mario Bros. 2 (US version). I guess Nintendo thought the game needed two Toads to be really badass.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1922075

Originally Posted by Abyss Master

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1922075

Ha, I was thinking about Cloud8745's statements about Toad, though mostly from his old walkthrough.

Originally Posted by Sam

As with the Toads (they really should have been replaced), a lot of this game seems almost lazy. I feel that they certainly could have put more effort in. It looks like it's going to be fun, but I'm unsure if it's worth purchasing. Maybe a rental. We're have to see when it comes out.

Put more effort in? For the kind of game that it is (a 2D platformer), what more could you expect? E3 may have left a bit to be desired, since back then we could barely tell if the game was a DS port or not, but since then, if you've kept up with various media and impressions, it's obvious that the package has really come together.

The whole point of NSMBWii is to be a cleanly-presented and fun game that anyone can play and enjoy. Just like the original NSMB for DS, this game is trying to emulate the original Super Mario Brothers, only this time instead of making multiple players take turns, it's giving them the ability to play simultaneously.

And, all this while it can still be played as a fully-featured single-player 2D Mario experience where gameplay takes center stage.

Remember, this is only the first of two Wii Mario platformers that are going to come out within a year of each other. You just have to note that the purpose of NSMBWii is not the same as Super Mario Galaxy 2's. Both will be worthwhile for similar and different reasons, obviously.

Originally Posted by Tonchiki

Hey hey HEY, Waluigi is ****ING AWESOME.

What? How? His existence is a product of logical ineptitude; He must exist to fill the role of sidekick to the doppelganger, without actually having anything resembling a character of his own. Luigi is clumsy and lacks self confidence, Wario is a selfish brute, what's Waluigi? I guess he laughs a lot or something?

Waluigi's has appeared in 3 Mario Kart titles, marking 3 games that include Waluigi which weren't cynical cash-ins of the Mario brand. He's a rubbish character and I hate hate hate him.

Nah, some people should be kept in-character.

Didn't stop Wario appearing in SM64DS.

Wario would be strange, he's much slower, and a worse jumper then the rest, Toad and luigi are more understandable. Still, I rather had something else then 2 toads.
Also: http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/mario3.jpg

I sincerely hope that if they bring back the airships then they bring back the music too. If not then I'll be so damn disappointed.

And the visuals really are appealing.

What about Mario, Luigi, Toad, and Wario? What's wrong with that?

Also, do each of the characters play differently, like in SM64DS?

Originally Posted by Tonchiki

Hey hey HEY, Waluigi is ****ING AWESOME.

No. He's an incredibly thin character. He shouldn't even exist, it's just that he needed to exist to fill in the blank. Maybe Waluigi should get some play in the Wario series to help him build up a character, but right now he's far to two dimensional, and he's not ready for a prime-time Mario platformer. (No, **** you. I know the game is in 2D. That has NOTHING to do with his character being 2D. I know you're thinking it. Don't even ****ing type that.)

Originally Posted by Rash

Put more effort in? For the kind of game that it is (a 2D platformer), what more could you expect? E3 may have left a bit to be desired, since back then we could barely tell if the game was a DS port or not, but since then, if you've kept up with various media and impressions, it's obvious that the package has really come together.

The whole point of NSMBWii is to be a cleanly-presented and fun game that anyone can play and enjoy. Just like the original NSMB for DS, this game is trying to emulate the original Super Mario Brothers, only this time instead of making multiple players take turns, it's giving them the ability to play simultaneously.

And, all this while it can still be played as a fully-featured single-player 2D Mario experience where gameplay takes center stage.

Remember, this is only the first of two Wii Mario platformers that are going to come out within a year of each other. You just have to note that the purpose of NSMBWii is not the same as Super Mario Galaxy 2's. Both will be worthwhile for similar and different reasons, obviously.

Exactly, especially looking at level design. While the use of polygons and the music still bothers me, the other assets of this game have made them a non-issue. Also, I wish they would be more creative with the world map and exits.

Originally Posted by 8bit

What about Mario, Luigi, Toad, and Wario? What's wrong with that?

Also, do each of the characters play differently, like in SM64DS?



No. He's an incredibly thin character. He shouldn't even exist, it's just that he needed to exist to fill in the blank. Maybe Waluigi should get some play in the Wario series to help him build up a character, but right now he's far to two dimensional, and he's not ready for a prime-time Mario platformer. (No, **** you. I know the game is in 2D. That has NOTHING to do with his character being 2D. I know you're thinking it. Don't even ****ing type that.)

But 2d is awesome! *gets shot*

It's too bad this game does not have online play.

This is definitely gonna be fun.

Originally Posted by Wolfen

It's too bad this game does not have online play.

Its funny. PS360 games are getting rid of local in favor of online, while the Wii is doing the opposite.