Brutal Legend; the first reviews roll in

I've been looking forward to this game quite a bit. Big Tenacious D fan. Plus, it just plain LOOKS like a good game.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

Hardly any of what you actually named matters. How does the games system work?

Actually all of what I said matters. These days it takes more than a solid gameplay experience to make a game epic. We've all played solid games that don't have the style, flair, or character that Brutal Legend has in spades. (almost made an ace of spades motörhead joke here lol.)

But since you insist, Brutal Legend plays like a mixture of genres. The side missions range from hunting down creatures in the world, to car racing, to delivery missions in the deuce.

The main chunk of the game, though, are RTS-style battles. A stage is set up, and there are geysers through out the field that have fans in them. You run up to the geysers(or fly, later on) and play a solo that drops a merchandise booth on the geyser, which generates fans(which is the game's resource.) You use the fans as a currency to purchase units and upgrades for your stage(the more you upgrade the stage, the more different types of units you can build.)

Instead of an absent overseer of the battle, Eddie is actually on the field and you have complete control over him. You fight alongside the army you're controlling with the hack n slash mechanics shown in the demo. Additionally, you can "double team" with any unit to preform a special attack.

It's really the most well done console rts sytem I've seen since Pikmin.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

Eh.

Devil May Cry is pretty Metal too. Except the action has substance.

Yes, but DMC is actually serious about it.

I'm no graphics expert but it looks much better than many Wii games I've seen. Except maybe Galaxy, but that's a notable exception.

Originally Posted by me

Graphically, it doesn't look much better than a good looking Wii game, which makes me disappointed that it's not being released for Wii OR PC. I won't get to play it.

Originally Posted by Hoopy Frood

Actually all of what I said matters. These days it takes more than a solid gameplay experience to make a game epic. We've all played solid games that don't have the style, flair, or character that Brutal Legend has in spades. (almost made an ace of spades motörhead joke here lol.)

Argh.

Style isn't something that's hard to obtain and a lot of crappy games actually have it.

A good game can not have a good style.

a bad game can never have good gameplay.


The system you described sounds pretty damn cool though. I'll have to give it a shot.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

Argh.

Style isn't something that's hard to obtain and a lot of crappy games actually have it.

A good game can not have a good style.

a bad game can never have good gameplay

I can agree with that to an extent, I suppose, but I've never played a game that had tons of character and style that was an outright ****ty game. I'm interested in knowing what an example of that might be to you.

XIII.

the TMNT game on the gamecube.

Killzone.

The original Guilty Gear.

Land Of the Dead.


I could go on. A game could have all the style in the world and still be below average to crappy.

Originally Posted by 8bit

Yes, but DMC is actually serious about it.

DMC is like...50% comedy.

Originally Posted by Hoopy Frood

I can agree with that to an extent, I suppose, but I've never played a game that had tons of character and style that was an outright ****ty game. I'm interested in knowing what an example of that might be to you.

Every Final Fantasy game ever.

DMC is like...50% comedy.

This is news to me. I was under the impression that comedy was supposed to be intentionally funny, not just cheesy.

DMC wants to be so, so serious.

But it can't. ._.

Actually the first DMC game wasnt meant to be that serious. It was pretty obvious. Im not sure about the others since i didnt play them.

Oh. I forgot the best part of this game:

You get to decapitate emo/goth kids. Also melt their faces off.

Originally Posted by Florina Belmont

Actually the first DMC game wasnt meant to be that serious. It was pretty obvious. Im not sure about the others since i didnt play them.

Originally Posted by Notsil

DMC wants to be so, so serious.

But it can't. ._.

Originally Posted by 8bit

This is news to me. I was under the impression that comedy was supposed to be intentionally funny, not just cheesy.

Dante sneezing and destroying his shop by mistake in DMC3.

Nero flicking Dante off as he gets absorbed into the false sparda in DMC4.

Jester making sexual innuendos.

Virtually EVERY pre-boss fight cutscene in the entire series.

Devil may cry is FULL of comedy. Even the first game, which hardly has any story telling at all, had a good amount of jokes in the few cutscenes it did have. How can none of you see it?

DMC1 may have had some jokes in it, but it really wasn't to be as much of a comedy as three and four were. It was much more gothic in style and mainly tried to stay focused on Mundus. Most of the humor came more from text then it did from anything Dante actually said. He's a very mellow character for the most part in 1, he doesn't seem nearly as cocky as he was in three, he's more of the silent strong, type.

Got a 3 star review from Giant Bomb. Just dropped off my radar as a possible game to buy, that's for sure.

Edit: I also always thought that Devil May Cry was intentionally hilarious.

Originally Posted by Alex

Got a 3 star review from Giant Bomb. Just dropped off my radar as a possible game to buy, that's for sure.

Because of one review? Despite the fact that most other sites are giving it quite good ones?

Edit: I also always thought that Devil May Cry was intentionally hilarious.

Devil May Cry was just kind of ironic; it wasn't really a laugh-out-loud comedy. The first game didn't take itself seriously at all, but the second game did and suffered for it.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

Dante sneezing and destroying his shop by mistake in DMC3.

Nero flicking Dante off as he gets absorbed into the false sparda in DMC4.

Jester making sexual innuendos.

Virtually EVERY pre-boss fight cutscene in the entire series.

Devil may cry is FULL of comedy. Even the first game, which hardly has any story telling at all, had a good amount of jokes in the few cutscenes it did have. How can none of you see it?

There are REALLY BAD attempts at light comedy throughout the game, but they fail miserably.

It's like calling Naruto or Family Guy funny because 'comedy' makes up a majority of its script.


THIS PARTY'S GETTIN' CRAZY.

LET'S ROCK.

Originally Posted by JoGoron

Because of one review? Despite the fact that most other sites are giving it quite good ones?


Devil May Cry was just kind of ironic; it wasn't really a laugh-out-loud comedy. The first game didn't take itself seriously at all, but the second game did and suffered for it.

I know the review score on Destructoid was a 6.

Also, I believe DMC2 wasn't even meant to be a DMC game. It was something else entirely until about 60% through development, it took on the name to sell copies I think.

To be honest, the main reason I want to play it is because Jack Black is a brilliant voice artist, and Tim Schafer is a brilliant designer.

Originally Posted by Alex

Got a 3 star review from Giant Bomb. Just dropped off my radar as a possible game to buy, that's for sure.

Edit: I also always thought that Devil May Cry was intentionally hilarious.

That's cute. You clearly just look at review scores without reading the actual review. The guy at Giant Bomb actually really liked the game, but rated it 3/5(which is still pretty ****ing good on their unconventional scale) because he felt some gameplay elements weren't fleshed out enough.

If you're going to base your entire opinion off a single review at least read the damn review.

Oh, I did read the review. Sounds like a game I don't care to spend 60$ of my dollars on, especially when Modern Wardare 2 is coming out so soon.

A game can't run on nothing but charm, you need the gameplay to be there. Maybe you didn't read it, but it was supposedly lacking in that department. Sounds like a possible buy if it was a $20-$30 game.

Sorry I'm not buying your new favorite game brah.

Originally Posted by squall24

Also, I believe DMC2 wasn't even meant to be a DMC game. It was something else entirely until about 60% through development, it took on the name to sell copies I think.

My point still stands.

Crappy gameplay looks like it's going to become a key part of all of Schafer's post-Lucasarts titles. It's a shame, but his writing is worth it for some people (myself included).