Do you beleive in ghosts?

No. Plain and simple.

Originally Posted by вℓσσ∂ѕρσят

That is a fair point. Nobody has had reliable evidence of ghosts. In the video i watched (Hero of legends posted it) Most of those are clearly fake, and the ones that aren't cleraly fake, could have been graphically edited. If these aren't ghosts, and there was a reliable source, a oicture, or something you yourself saw, what would you say it was, seeing as you don't beleive in the possiblility of ghosts?

If the evidence is good then I will believe.

If, however, my only evidence was a poor picture or something I saw, then I could think of a plethora of significantly more likely explanations that don't require us to re-write biology, physics, and philosophy,

Originally Posted by I <3 Hyrule

My maid actually took a picture of the spirit with her cell phone.

I'm going to guess that it's either in a window or spherical, yes?

Originally Posted by Hero of Legends

Even if they did manage to take a picture/video, would you believe them?

Probably not, but it couldn't hurt their case any.

Originally Posted by Sabbo

I said undecided.

I mean, I'd like to take the view that GDwarf did, but I am as certain as I can possibly be that there is more to it than only what we already know. Unless, of course, deja vu* can somehow be explained through the science we know.



*My psychology textbook tried to explain it, but only explained a different kind of deja vu. Mine was where I dreamt something and then it happened ~6 months later.

That's not Deja Vu, but it's quite easy to explain.

Every night we have five dreams or so. Let's skew the odds heavily in your favour and say that you only ever remember one of them at most and that that dream only ever contains one scene (rather than the hundreds that most jump between).

That means that by the time you're 15 you'll have had 5 479 dreams (counting leap-years). Now, it strikes me from that alone that you'd have pretty good odds of experiencing something that you dreamed about.


But it gets better. Human memory of stuff we've actually seen is incredibly unreliable. Eyewitness testimony is about the worst source of information that you can find; no two eyewitnesses ever agree about anything, even stuff like what colour a car was or if it was raining that day.

This is even worse when applied to dreams. We tend to remember vague outlines and fill the rest of it in ourselves. This means that if you experience something similar to a dream you've had then you'll start altering your memory of the dream to fit with your experience.

There's nothing mystical here, just a slight error in the way our brains remember stuff.

I believe in ghosts.

We actually think our house is haunted by a ghost named Brad.

He's pretty chill, though. We're not scared of him, we just let him hang around.

Originally Posted by John

That's not Deja Vu, but it's quite easy to explain.

Every night we have five dreams or so. Let's skew the odds heavily in your favour and say that you only ever remember one of them at most and that that dream only ever contains one scene (rather than the hundreds that most jump between).

That means that by the time you're 15 you'll have had 5 479 dreams (counting leap-years). Now, it strikes me from that alone that you'd have pretty good odds of experiencing something that you dreamed about.


But it gets better. Human memory of stuff we've actually seen is incredibly unreliable. Eyewitness testimony is about the worst source of information that you can find; no two eyewitnesses ever agree about anything, even stuff like what colour a car was or if it was raining that day.

This is even worse when applied to dreams. We tend to remember vague outlines and fill the rest of it in ourselves. This means that if you experience something similar to a dream you've had then you'll start altering your memory of the dream to fit with your experience.

There's nothing mystical here, just a slight error in the way our brains remember stuff.

Deja vu or not, it's still strange to have such an exact scene happen twice, one of which while dreaming. It's actually happened to me many times, although this ~6 month gap one I mentioned is the one I remember clearest. Probably because I wrote down what happened in it. :/

But, see, it isn't an exact scene.

The dream, as you remember it, is not the dream as it occurred. I'm serious, all sorts of studies have been done on this. Your memory of the dream is almost entirely wrong, which is why it matches what you saw so well.

In essence, you made it up to fit what you had observed, without realizing it.


One of the most foolish things a person can do is trusting their own senses and memory, alas.

Originally Posted by John

But, see, it isn't an exact scene.

The dream, as you remember it, is not the dream as it occurred. I'm serious, all sorts of studies have been done on this. Your memory of the dream is almost entirely wrong, which is why it matches what you saw so well.

In essence, you made it up to fit what you had observed, without realizing it.


One of the most foolish things a person can do is trusting their own senses and memory, alas.

You may be right... or you might not be. I shall probably continue believing what I do, as it makes life more interesting.


True, but I am innately a very trusting person, both of myself and others. (I've tried to be more of a skeptic, but it hasn't helped much. :/)

Originally Posted by John

Probably not, but it couldn't hurt their case any.

Then there is no point in demanding evidence now is there?
Prejudice towards a subject is hardly the way to argue it´s validity.

How on Earth does the majority say yes? I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

(As it is most likely obvious, I answered no.)

I agree with Postman. Ghosts are the earthly representations of a demonic force. The reason they may appear as a loved one or a friend that has passed on is because they are trying to deceive you and do physical harm to you. Call me crazy, but it is my opinion and it's what I'm entitled to.

I wouldn't say that I heavily agree that ghosts exists, nor do I think no supernatural forces exist on this planet.

I don't believe in ghosts, even though my mum feeds them every fortnight or so (she's different).

But I do believe in other things that have no straight answers to.

I have had three very eerie ghostly experiences.

The Ghost of the Pool
So I'm swimming around in the pool out back. It's a bright sunny day and my mind is not thinking about anything but that. As I lifted my head from the water, and I swear it happened, I thought I saw someone from the corner of my eye.

It was a small girl with a pink floatie thing around her waist. She was standing on the steps, watching me. I quickly looked at the steps to see if there was a girl standing there, but no one was there anymore.

Needless to say, I was a bit freaked out. :S

The Hotel Ghost
This one happened in Savannah. I was sitting in a hotel alone watching Spongebob and I was lying down on the couch. Let me describe how I was lying. My head was on the armrest, my feet tucked into my legs so I only took up half of the couch. At one point, I thought I felt something heavy being set at the other end of the couch. My feet were perfectly still up against my legs. I didn't move them.

The Ghost in the Window
This was in Gettysburg, and for those who have been there, there's a ghost tour that takes you around the city. Well, I just found it to be very relaxing, nothing too creepy until we come upon a house.
I don't remember the name of the house, but Mr. Nesbit (the tourist) said that in that house, a boy had died and ever since then, his spirit had been haunting there.

As I looked into the window, I discovered there was a lone candle lit on a table at the other end of the room. Suddenly, I felt something odd. I can't explain how it felt, but for a few brief minutes, I felt as if something were in that room watching me, compelling me to do something. I wish I had my digital camera then so I could have snapped a picture of the window in the hopes the kid appeared in the film.

So, what's my opinion? There may be something out there, I just don't know what it is. Better to keep my mind open to the possibilities.

Quite frankly, no.

Originally Posted by Link the Zora

The Ghost of the Pool
So I'm swimming around in the pool out back. It's a bright sunny day and my mind is not thinking about anything but that. As I lifted my head from the water, and I swear it happened, I thought I saw someone from the corner of my eye.

It was a small girl with a pink floatie thing around her waist. She was standing on the steps, watching me. I quickly looked at the steps to see if there was a girl standing there, but no one was there anymore.

Needless to say, I was a bit freaked out. :S

It was very sunny and the reflection of the pool would have danced a lot of lights around, enough to make a false image. I realised this when I was swimming in a pool on a very sunny day in the past and the light did make some brief moments of strange images, even enough to make a person.

The Hotel Ghost
This one happened in Savannah. I was sitting in a hotel alone watching Spongebob and I was lying down on the couch. Let me describe how I was lying. My head was on the armrest, my feet tucked into my legs so I only took up half of the couch. At one point, I thought I felt something heavy being set at the other end of the couch. My feet were perfectly still up against my legs. I didn't move them.

Well, it sounds like a small moment of something similar to sleep paralysis, which is something I experienced twice in my lifetime. I don't think feeling a weight is anything paranormal to be honest.

The Ghost in the Window
This was in Gettysburg, and for those who have been there, there's a ghost tour that takes you around the city. Well, I just found it to be very relaxing, nothing too creepy until we come upon a house.
I don't remember the name of the house, but Mr. Nesbit (the tourist) said that in that house, a boy had died and ever since then, his spirit had been haunting there.

As I looked into the window, I discovered there was a lone candle lit on a table at the other end of the room. Suddenly, I felt something odd. I can't explain how it felt, but for a few brief minutes, I felt as if something were in that room watching me, compelling me to do something. I wish I had my digital camera then so I could have snapped a picture of the window in the hopes the kid appeared in the film.

I hope something does appear... Like the movie Shutter. But it could as well be the light rays playing tricks again. Or for the fact that it's a ghost tour... The tour guiders might just want to steam up some fear in their customers, you know?

But this is my opinion. Nothing to brag about.

Ghosts are real.

But pants are only an illusion.

Originally Posted by Hero of Legends

Then there is no point in demanding evidence now is there?
Prejudice towards a subject is hardly the way to argue it´s validity.

The question was if one video or one picture would be enough, and no, it wouldn't be.

However, enough evidence to make it so that the most likely explanation is the existence of ghosts would convince me.


But since there is zero evidence it's a moot point.

Originally Posted by John

The question was if one video or one picture would be enough, and no, it wouldn't be.

However, enough evidence to make it so that the most likely explanation is the existence of ghosts would convince me.


But since there is zero evidence it's a moot point.

Well there is evidence...

It's just that there has always been better explanations for the evidence than ghosts. :/

When your evidence, 99 times out of 100, is dust on a camera lens, then I really don't think that counts.

That's not Deja Vu, but it's quite easy to explain.

Every night we have five dreams or so. Let's skew the odds heavily in your favour and say that you only ever remember one of them at most and that that dream only ever contains one scene (rather than the hundreds that most jump between).

That means that by the time you're 15 you'll have had 5 479 dreams (counting leap-years). Now, it strikes me from that alone that you'd have pretty good odds of experiencing something that you dreamed about.


But it gets better. Human memory of stuff we've actually seen is incredibly unreliable. Eyewitness testimony is about the worst source of information that you can find; no two eyewitnesses ever agree about anything, even stuff like what colour a car was or if it was raining that day.

This is even worse when applied to dreams. We tend to remember vague outlines and fill the rest of it in ourselves. This means that if you experience something similar to a dream you've had then you'll start altering your memory of the dream to fit with your experience.

There's nothing mystical here, just a slight error in the way our brains remember stuff.

I never did trust my memory too much. The human brain has several parts to it, which have different parts of memories in them, such as smells, emotions (this is all according to my science teacher) so when you think you remember something, you almost cetainly don't remember the details properly yes?

Originally Posted by John

When your evidence, 99 times out of 100, is dust on a camera lens, then I really don't think that counts.

And what about that 1% eh?

Well, it might just be the light rays playing tricks on the visual part of our brain, making a false image for a brief second or even longer.

I just don't believe in ghosts full stop.

I think for me, it's a matter of upbringing. When you're a kid, who's example do you follow? your parents' yes? so when they beleive in ghosts ad suchlike, you do too. What do yyou think of physcic medians? Whilst i do belive in some sort of supernatural energy, presumably "ghosts" i don't beleive phycic medians. It would be extremely easy, even for the poorest actor to pretend they had some sort of "spirit guide" or supernatural contacts. What do you think of phycic medians?