If you had a kid how yould you raise it or Meditations on my future child

As most of you are aware, I've taken it upon myself to equip the next generation with the knowledge necessary to make the most out of life, to utilize socialist theory to its fullest extent and bring about a new state which could have the power to curb the growing tide of capitalism, which as we can clearly see, is in its most decadent stage yet which I believe are the most favorable conditions to do this.

I know that I said I didn't want a hand in raising the child initially, but over time I've come to the conclusion that yes, I have to be a prominent figure in its life to help foster its development, if by decree, so I feel that I have to revise the original plan a bit.

Education would be strict, but not domineering and alienating, giving the child time for recreational activities to circumvent the associated ills and pressure of such a system. The child shall ideally learn the many tenets of socialist, philosophical, and political thought, though I think that I must stress the importance of what I deem correct.

In terms of the arts, which are indispensable and highly valuable when it comes to developing one's mental faculties, I would raise it exclusively on the music I listen to, extolling the virtues of the likes of David Bowie, Francoise Hardy, and Anna Karina. The fact that all three of them are both legends on the screen and through music makes things even easier for me. Fiction would be limited to the likes of Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, and Stendhal - in a word, classical.

However, I want to know how you guys feel about raising children, and what you would do when and if the time comes.

God help your poor future child.

Can Tott be your child?

Y'see, the trick is to continuously beat it until it submits to your will.

I'm not letting my children near you.

This is how to raise a child: If he acts up and disrespect you or his teachers or anyone else:



Good ol' Mister Leather shall help you!

I think I've said this before, but let me reiterate.



Before considering how you would raise your own child, you should really focus on raising yourself. Develop into the type of person that should have kids. Take on tasks that build character. Honestly, until you've got your own life in order, there isn't much sense in this exercise.

I'd give my kid to pack a wolves and let them raise it. Such as my parents did to me.

Oh you Spartan, you.

I think Aeffles will make a great dad someday.

Originally Posted by Jinny

I think Aeffles will make a great dad someday.

That's awfully sweet of you. Thanks, cupcake! ^^

I read the first sentence of this thread and the only thing I could think of for the next 5 minutes is
HOW THE **** IS THIS GUY STILL NOT BANNED!? BULL**** IS LITERALLY STEAMING OUT OF HIM!

God help your poor future child.

Um, excuse me? Doesn't every parent believe that one of their priorities as a parent should be to impart the same wisdom and teach them to be proper and virtuous adults? I am fighting a losing battle against the very notion that worth is determined by what car one drives, or how big one's house is.

Nobody cares about the content of an individual's character these days, but my child will learn that it is an important and distinguishing factor.

Can Tott be your child?

As much as I would love to say yes, I'm going to have to go with a no. I have to start from nothing in order to properly build something, I think. There are far too many things barring us older people from becoming the best that we can.

For example, I was born into conditions not of my choosing, and most certainly not favorable towards intellectual pursuits. This child will be born in controlled environments, and in conditions I think are the best, which is a decisive factor in developing one's abilities.

Y'see, the trick is to continuously beat it until it submits to your will.

I do not believe in physical intimidation when it comes to rearing children.

Before considering how you would raise your own child, you should really focus on raising yourself. Develop into the type of person that should have kids. Take on tasks that build character. Honestly, until you've got your own life in order, there isn't much sense in this exercise.

Of course. I, of all people, should know and understand that, but I see life as a constant process and fulfillment of various short-term and long-term goals...I'm never going to be perfect, but I hope to at least surpass the bar by the time I introduce a new generation into the world.

I think Aeffles will make a great dad someday.

I don't think he will because he spent no time in criticizing me, when he probably knows that my methods are in fact superior to his own, whatever they may be.

Originally Posted by Aeffles

God help your poor future child.

Originally Posted by Discussion

Um, excuse me? Doesn't every parent believe that one of their priorities as a parent should be to impart the same wisdom and teach them to be proper and virtuous adults? I am fighting a losing battle against the very notion that worth is determined by what car one drives, or how big one's house is.

You're obviously stuck in the thought that everyone is superficial. You have no idea about anything.
And you don't think of children, you think of experiments. You don't raise children like that. You need to give them a life and a chance to experience things on their own. Not just raised on whatever you think is right.

You make me sick.

Originally Posted by Discussion

Nobody cares about the content of an individual's character these days, but my child will learn that it is an important and distinguishing factor.

You're wrong. You have no idea what anyone else cares about.

Originally Posted by Discussion

As much as I would love to say yes, I'm going to have to go with a no. I have to start from nothing in order to properly build something, I think. There are far too many things barring us older people from becoming the best that we can.

What's barring you from being anything more than what you are now, which is a complete fool.

Originally Posted by Discussion

For example, I was born into conditions not of my choosing, and most certainly not favorable towards intellectual pursuits. This child will be born in controlled environments, and in conditions I think are the best, which is a decisive factor in developing one's abilities.

No, they'll be born into the same nonsense you were born into. Conditions of not their choosing and things they will probably hate and things that will hurt and hinder them.

Originally Posted by Discussion

Of course. I, of all people, should know and understand that, but I see life as a constant process and fulfillment of various short-term and long-term goals...I'm never going to be perfect, but I hope to at least surpass the bar by the time I introduce a new generation into the world.

Why you of all people? You think you're something special?

Originally Posted by Discussion

I don't think he will because he spent no time in criticizing me, when he probably knows that my methods are in fact superior to his own, whatever they may be.

So what does that have to do with how I'll raise children?

Originally Posted by Aeffles

God help your poor future child.

I am incredibly jealous of the psychoanalyst who finds this kid on their couch.

Ker-ching!

I have a CRRRRRAZY idea- Let's see this thread for what it is...









A GREAT THREAD IDEA! whether you like it or not... whether you agree with what Discussion has said, he DID, in fact, ask us how WE would raise our children. For all of you that don't hate Discussion, let's take his thread idea and talk about it.
For those of you that hate Discussion and think he's a troll, just don't give him the ZOMG reaction he wants, and just share your personal views about raising children.

believe it or not, there are other members here (GASP) who can share their opinions and make this an actual "discussion " and not a big drama fest where we all freak out abaout this guy again. Just because the thread was started by a troll, doesn't mean the thread is crap. it's up to us to make it a real thread instead of "feeding the troll" and memes and one-liners.


I'll write my reply (on-topic thread contribution) in a little bit.

Though I find some of your methods somewhat unethical Discussion, especially some of the ideas you outlined in the thread in which you asked some woman on this board to bear your child, there are certain parts of your thoughts that I agree with. Education would be a must for any children that I might have in years to come. That is, in so much as that I would introduce them to the material. It would be their choice to accept it or not. I would not want to force them to do anything they didn't want.

However, introducing them to all manner of information (everything from religion, to politics, to philosophy, to arts, to science, and many other subjects) would be one of the most important things I think I could impart onto my possible future children. If they did indeed share my passion for knowledge, something I would nurture as much as I could, I would want the child to make their own decisions based on the knowledge as well.

Though I too feel that it would be important that my children know what I think of the information I'm subjecting them to, and what I think is right and wrong, allowing my children to decide for themselves what is right and wrong and letting them know that it would be perfectly fine if they disagreed with me would be extremely important.

As for other factors, instilling ideas of justice, truthfulness, and respect would be exactly what I would try to do. Again, I would let the decision to believe that these ideals are right would be entirely up to the child. Forcing beliefs or ideas on anyone is something that I despise, so I certainly wouldn't want to do just that to my children.

Originally Posted by Aeffles

You're obviously stuck in the thought that everyone is superficial. You have no idea about anything.
And you don't think of children, you think of experiments.

Experiments!? Don't call my child such a thing, and I would vehemently oppose anybody who did on the grounds that such a thing would cause psychological damage! I care deeply for others and once I am engaged they have my undying loyalty and unconditional love regardless if they are friend, family, or comrade.

Contrary to what you may think, I'm actually doing little more than putting theory into practice, and in the one case I am familiar with, it actually turned out great. I came to this idea prowling through historical records, and was absolutely astounded by the breadth and unparalleled nature of JS Mill's education, and while his life was not without problems(he suffered from a siege of depression in his 20's), I think I have the foresight and knowledge to safeguard from these types of things.

Indeed, I would say that my love for this unborn child is one that can not be reached by average men, for it is one that has been meticulously planned, has been thoroughly researched and has had every possibility taken into account.

You don't raise children like that. You need to give them a life and a chance to experience things on their own. Not just raised on whatever you think is right.

That is the very idea of parenthood, troll. To help the child avoid the very mistakes you made, to teach them the right choices based on moral or logical grounds, and to imbue a part of your character into them...there is nothing abnormal about what I believe, just that you can't handle the idea of someone encompassing and developing his virtues when you have none.

You make me sick.

You make me mad!

What's barring you from being anything more than what you are now, which is a complete fool.

There are a lot of factors barring people from reaching their potential, just take a look outside right now, or if the sun burns you, at night.

No, they'll be born into the same nonsense you were born into. Conditions of not their choosing and things they will probably hate and things that will hurt and hinder them.

Says who, you? How patronizing of you to allude to the absurd notion that my modest background is in any shape or form equal to that of a middle or upper class society's. Hogwash, mon ami.

So what does that have to do with how I'll raise children?

You're insulting me for being right, that's why.

Originally Posted by Discussion

That is the very idea of parenthood, troll. To help the child avoid the very mistakes you made, to teach them the right choices based on moral or logical grounds, and to imbue a part of your character into them...there is nothing abnormal about what I believe, just that you can't handle the idea of someone encompassing and developing his virtues when you have none.

EVERY parent tries to keep their children from making the same mistakes they did. even if you succeed in that, they're still gonna make their own mistakes, and who's to say that the consequences of those won't be just as detrimental (or strengthening, for that matter)?

Originally Posted by Discussion

Experiments!? Don't call my child such a thing, and I would vehemently oppose anybody who did on the grounds that such a thing would cause psychological damage! I care deeply for others and once I am engaged they have my undying loyalty and unconditional love regardless if they are friend, family, or comrade.

You have a child? I thought this was about future kids.

Aeffles. Sometimes you just make me lol.

Originally Posted by Discussion

That is the very idea of parenthood, troll. To help the child avoid the very mistakes you made, to teach them the right choices based on moral or logical grounds, and to imbue a part of your character into them...there is nothing abnormal about what I believe, just that you can't handle the idea of someone encompassing and developing his virtues when you have none.

You might wanna stop before you get yourself and so much deep crap, you can't dig yourself out of it.