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Old 10-03-2003, 06:37 PM
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Are we Doomed to repeat it

In the last few years the world has gone from one Earth-shaking crisis to another,remember Gulf war 1,kosove,rambem bomings of American emberisse in Africa,9/11 and now persian gulf war 2. While some say that we are on the threshold of a Brave New World Order, others warn that humanity now totters on the brink of unprecedented disaster & chaos!

Reading the news nowadays is not the most cheerful way to start the day! Day by day the world's problems grow more desperate & insurmountable. The question which plagues every thinking person is...What lies ahead? i will tell you what lies ahead WORLD WAR 3.If you don't believe me just look at how we went to war with iraq.


The Americans and British have defined the UN Saying that Iraq is a growing danger and has WMD and supports Al-Qeada that is clearly not the case, because Iraq had no weapons and was never involved with terrorists. Why did'nt we go to war with North Korea, Clearly they are waving Nuclear weapons at the Anglo Saxon alliance? Korea has threatened the U.S more times than Iraq. There is a third world war looming; it only needs a nuclear strike by North Korea to start it.
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Old 10-03-2003, 06:54 PM
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Re: Are we Doomed to repeat it

because north korea DOES have nuclear devices at their disposal and are in a heap of ******** so deep that they have nothing to lose by using them. i think that the president made a good move by going into iraq. he has shwn that we are not afraid to actually go over there and do something. anti-war people act like iraq didnt need liberated. do you realize that if qusay(one of saddaam's sons) he would send them through a wood chipper? saddam has killed so many people during his reign for small things that its unbeleivable. he was an exceptionally cruel dictator who couldnt have been overthrown from the inside because his people were in too much fear of him. most of them are still afraid that he is going to come back.

i personally think that from all other countries except korea nuclear weapons are simply something that allows you to threaten someone to get them to do what you want. we need to examine the korea situation very closely before we make an move and if we do attack, then we need to strike all of the facilities within two hours. if not, then they will be able to launch one nuke, and thats all it would take to tip off the world. perhaps apocalypse is peering at us from around the corner, perhaps not. no man knows

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Old 10-03-2003, 07:19 PM
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Re: Are we Doomed to repeat it

Iraq was more of a humanitarian operation really, the weapon parts seems liek it was only a justification of what he was doing to his own people. It is great taht we went into a Iraq, realy, those people had been suppressed for so long they needed to be liberated.

North Korea is only a threat to those withing 50m miles of it's border. not that i am insensitive to those people it is just that right now they are no threat directly to the US. Their missile are garbage even if they do have nucleur capabilities. Now considering Iraq had good missiles and ways of gettign better ones, they were more of an immediate threat to the US's closer allies, and to it's own people.

I doubt tha tat this point the US could justifyan attack at North Korea as there is a lack of structure to build off of and it would be seen as more or less of an imperialistic invasion.

I doubt that there will be any apocolysp anytime soon or that soem new world order will arise so powere that the world's ideal are changed. But, hey, it could happen.
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Old 10-03-2003, 07:22 PM
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yeah,but what if North korea strikes first.Using the very weapons Iraq did not have That would be an embrassement to America.

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Old 10-03-2003, 07:22 PM
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Re: Are we Doomed to repeat it

Its kind of hard to support a war where more U.S. lives have been lost in the "peace" portion than the actual war.
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Old 10-03-2003, 07:28 PM
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I was wondering around the Internet, and I came cross a web site that said. North Korea has us cities locked on target and could deploy Nuclear weapons with in minutes
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Old 10-03-2003, 07:28 PM
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Re: Are we Doomed to repeat it

How does the UN make decisions? Through ambassadors: sent by those in power, regardless of their means to power. The UN legitimizes the tyrants that have power. The UN is almost wholly ineffective, as has been shown. The sanctions of the UN hurt the people and further empower the elite (as shown in Iraq). Its not so much that the European states refuse to act, as much as they have an inability to act.
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Old 10-03-2003, 07:34 PM
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Re: Are we Doomed to repeat it

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I was wondering around the Internet, and I came cross a web site that said. North Korea has us cities locked on target and could deploy Nuclear weapons with in minutes
They can wish they do but they actually have only had failures as misile tests. If they could somehow manage to muster up a missile the farthest they could get one to go is the West coast of the US. Not many mjor US cities, not that California isn't important or anything.

And Linkisup, soldiers die in the 'peace' phaseall of the time, just because the country has had many of it's major rulers taken out doesn't mean that all of the supporters of the regime are gone. Infact there is really no reason to be suprised by it, it is a way war works.....
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Old 10-03-2003, 07:37 PM
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Well i hope that we can prevent the United nations going the way of the League of nations.The UN is what holds the world at peace.If it goes then world war 3 is Inevitable.
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Old 10-03-2003, 07:43 PM
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"The UN is what holds the world at peace."

Now this is truly sig worthy. I should seriously save this and archive it. Are you kidding me? Really? When has the UN really every done anything important in relation to world peace? Never, if you dont count times when American resolve coincided with it. (Bosnia).
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Old 10-03-2003, 07:52 PM
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HAHAH. THe UN- peace? Are you serious?

....They put a Libian guy in charge of Human Rights.

now that is humor
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Old 10-03-2003, 07:58 PM
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Well, the UN commishioner on human rights was appointed by Qaddafi (Libya). That type of "stuff" is clearly wrong. Libya is a dictatorship, it doesn't even deserve to be in the council in the first place, and the fact that Qaddafi appointed him is plainly absurb.

Even more absurd is that the UN laws are supposed to be effective in countries that have no "law" in the first place, becasue there is no rule of law (like in dictatorships).
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Old 10-03-2003, 08:05 PM
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Re: Are we Doomed to repeat it

well, spatch, you have to admit that the UN is fairly innefective towards most things. also, i doubt that korea could get its hands on missiles powerful enough to get halfway across the globe. i seriously do doubt that we are on the verge of a nuclear war.....yet. now, when EVERYONE gets them, and it will eventually get to that, then we will be in deep ********.

now, about that thing about more lives being lost in reconstruction in iraq then in the fighting, have you noticed that there hasnt been a deeclared end to the fighting yet? there are still small cells of hussein supporters out there. same thing in afghanistan, there are still al qaeda cells there. its a battle, man, lives are gonna be lost. and if you think that the casualties weve had are numerous, go back and look up the numbers in vietnam and the world wars. i personally think that we have had minimal casualties. you cannot put soldiers' blood on bush's hands. they joined the military knowing what they were getting into. instead honor the people who have died and be happy that there are people willing to fight and that we dont need the draft anymore
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Old 10-03-2003, 08:08 PM
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Re: Are we Doomed to repeat it

Well said, baka... (lol...)
I'm getting tired of all political issues all together. I think I'll go jump off a building of something.
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Old 10-03-2003, 08:59 PM
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The United Nations is ineffectual, period.

There are too many squabbling nations for it to ever truly work. I'm sure that after WW2 people thought that peace would reign through the UN. Unfortunatly, it did not. We cannot ever expect the UN to ever succeed in what it plans to do, there is too much politics, too many voices. However, we simply cannot go around the world, acting as if WE, the United States, are the standard that the world should live by. "We should work to spread the glory of democracy" HA! Right! The very idea is flawed. Democracy always favors those in power. The United States has no right to go around the world making statements like "If you don't become democratic and change you're who standard of livin' we gunna nuke yo ***!"

That is not why I disliked Bush's little sortie on Iraq. It was his personal motive. He just used politics, his version of the truth, and the global state (which was not good at the time) to his favor. It was his war.

We are not at this point on the brink of World War III. But tensions will not cease for some time. Personally, I think we're looking at the Second Cold War. That, ladies and gentlemen, is what I think what will happen.

But it is also a powder keg. If Bush pushes against Korea with to much force. We're looking at war. A war that CANNOT be won through "humanitarian aid" because the People of North Korea are completly loyal to their leader. Similarly to Mao Zedong in China 3 decades ago. If Bush pushes Korea, who is WELL armed with over a million troops and numerous warheads, well, then may god have mercy on us all.

Oh, and by the way, I'm one of those so called "Un-Patriotic" Americans who protested the war, and was called a traitor and what-not. I'm tired of that Bull****.
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Old 10-03-2003, 09:20 PM
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"Democracy always favors those in power."

As the people are those who are in power: you are totally correct. If democracy favors those in power, and the people are those that are in power, then democracy certaintly favors the people. Thats why its such a good thing, especially in comparison to the governments that used to be in these places.

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Certaintly . I doubt if there was anything ever less french then french fires... hehe.
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Old 10-03-2003, 09:29 PM
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I don't not like him because he's libian. It's becasue Libia in dictatorship. And the guy has no place in a human's rights commision.
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Old 10-03-2003, 10:05 PM
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By french fries I was voicing my Support for France. I love that country.
and by those is power I mean the rich. Do you really think the government gives a care what we think?!

You insolence is not appriciated BobSlob.......
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