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Old 12-17-2005, 08:16 PM
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PETA's been killing pets

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PETA representatives came to a veterinary hospital, and picked up a mother cat and two kittens (none of whom had homes). The reps said that they would have no trouble finding homes for them. The veterinarian handed them over.
Later, police, who had been tipped off, found the bodies of 18 animals in a dumpster behind the local supermarket. The bodies included those of the mother cat and her two kittens. Inside a van, they found another thirteen dead animals, along with a kit full of hypodermic needles. So there no intent of finding homes for those animals, and it's believed that the mother cat and her kittens may have been euthanized by the time they left the parking lot.

PETA and the representative have been charged with obtaining the pets under false pretences (they said they'd try to find homes for them), as well as (oh, the irony here)
animal cruelty.
Ingrid Newkirk (PETA's founder) is defending her employees, saying that the methods for the disposal of the bodies was disgusting, but that "they didn't cause suffering or pain or misery or anything like that."

That statement is coming from someone who's supposed to be against animal cruelty, and is instead condoning it.
PETA killed 85% of the animals they took in 2003. From 1998 to now, they've killed more than 12,000 cats and dogs, and found homes for less than 3,000. For every 5 animals they take in, they euthanize 4. That isn't an animal shelter. That's a freaking death camp.

PETA could afford to take care of 15,000 animals for their entire lives easily. Did you know that last year they made 29 million dollars in income?

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1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group’s overall goal as “total animal liberation.” This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.
2) Despite its constant moralizing about the “unethical” treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 10,000 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2003, PETA put to death over 85 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.

3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows” is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.”

4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: “Your Mommy Kills Animals!” PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel’s audience: “Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.”

5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM's president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.

6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs “died for their sins.” PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn't be allowed. And its infamous “Holocaust on Your Plate” campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.

7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.”
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:20 PM
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Re: PETA's been killing pets

GOSH. i dont know much about PETA (besides "Mr. Pita" and the south park episode about it) but i think thats insane and inhumane
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:28 PM
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People Eating Tasty Animals. <3

That's a really interesting site, Tomato. My mom signed me up for the PETA newsletter, but I never really attempted to read it.
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:33 PM
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Re: PETA's been killing pets

Wait isnt the PETA supposed to be trying to protect crealty to animals or is that a different organization but that is just crazy
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:35 PM
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Wait isnt the PETA supposed to be trying to protect crealty to animals or is that a different organization but that is just crazy

no you arent crazy, petas job IS to protect animals from abuse and whatnot (i just google-ed PETA). and apparently it was all a sham and they are little tricksters. but there is just too much Juicy Irony in all of this
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:48 PM
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Eh, I've never heard much of this PETA organization, but sounds like they're a bunch of retards. First of all, "Total animal liberation", no matter how many rights animals deserve, is totally rediculous. I understand that taking meat from animals is rather cruel, especially when the animals in question are raised for that sole purpose. But how, in the name of all that is holy, is taking milk from cows cruel? I mean, I'm no expert, but I don't think it hurts the cows (or whatever other animal gives milk >.>).

And if they're going to kill all of these animals, why bother taking them in in the first place? It's retarded. They adopt all these cute, stray animals to gain publicity, and then get caught putting them to sleep. Ha! Some publicity that turned out to be. And it sounds to me like this organization is pretty big. Why? By the sounds of it, it seems like they're doing absolutely no good. So shouldn't the government just shut them down?

Eh, but on the point of them donating to organizations classified as "criminal": Big deal. Even if the gorvernment classifies a group as "illegal" or whatever, it doesn't make their cause any less... justified. If it's a good cause, then screw the government, it's not like they know what they're doing, anyway (Take no offence, just my honest opinion).

And then they target children... leaving schools. Disgusting. They shouldn't be targetting any underaged group without consent from the parents, let alone kids at the age of six. And I can only imagine some of the things they must say to those remarkably impressionable kids. And they admit to it? If it weren't so wrong, the idiocy would be funny.

It's gotten to the point where large organizations can be so hypocritical. And it's living creatures, not just some matter revolving around money and/or power. How can they go on saying that they have animal rights in their best interests, whilst they go around slaughtering homeless animals. Sickening.
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Old 12-17-2005, 08:49 PM
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Re: PETA's been killing pets

You know, I never heard much about PETA as you put it... but that's just pure ****ing disgusting, for lack of a better word. I don't know if I should be happy to know this, or sick to my stomach. I think I'm the latter.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:11 PM
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Ok I looked at their website and it is pretty funny because these same people have Paris Hilton at the top of their worst dressed list and they are doing this? They acually make her look like an animal lover and at the the looks of these website, {WWW.PETA.com}, it looks like the government run this
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:13 PM
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Yeah well, thats where I heard that phrase.

I think what PETA is doing is just disgusting. Even local animal shelters give away more than 4 out of 5 dogs. Plus, giving e-mails and promotional campaigns to children without parent permission is unethical and stupid.

As for the dumpster body stuff. The least they could do is bury the animals. And from the information given, PETA is not denying they killed the animals. Thats just plain Stupid.
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:15 PM
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My god, if only my friend at school knew. She's so for PETA, handing out stickers, getting people to sign up for their newsletters etc.. Sucks for her when I tell her. :/
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Old 12-17-2005, 09:32 PM
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Re: PETA's been killing pets

PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) is a high-profile animal-rights group in America.
They're best known for their campaigns against fur clothing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PETA

They have done a lot of good for farm and laboratory animals, and I love that they've done that. However, their methods and views are often way too extremist, and their killing of dogs and cats is hypocritical, unethical, and just plain wrong. At times, it seems like they don't give a damn about human life, either. (Read about what Ingrid Newkirk said to a leader on suicide bombings, and you'll see what I mean)

Also, their advertising campaigns are tacky and horrible. They've been known to make claims that Jesus was a vegetarian (despite evidence to the contrary), and have an ad featuring a pig with the caption "He Died For Your Sins". While I'm not religious at all, I think that ads like that undermine and offend people's religions, and they have no right to do that.
Some of the ads directed at children are so horrible, I don't even want to comment on them. These people are insane.

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PETA also has a campaign "Your mommy kills animals," targeted at children, using graphic images of a woman killing a rabbit. [17] PETA also has a similar campaign "Your Daddy Kills Animals!" featuring graphic images of a man killing a fish, along with a warning to children that states, "Until your daddy learns that it's not "fun" to kill, keep your doggies and kitties away from him. He's so hooked on killing defenseless animals that they could be next!".
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PETA has also been accused of targeting vulnerable or emotionally sensitive groups, particularly teenage girls, and was widely criticized in the United Kingdom for its anti-milk campaign, in which it targeted school children with ‘game cards’ saying that dairy products cause obesity, acne, belching and flatulence, and excessive nasal mucus build up.

PETA has also been accused of promoting vegetarian and vegan lifestyles without providing sufficient information on the health risks involved in excluding meat and dairy from a typical Western diet without providing an alternative source of nutrition. It has also linked both lifestyles to weight loss, prompting concerns over PETA's targeting the gender and age groups that are vulnerable to eating disorders.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:06 PM
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Ah, I've seen their "Your mommy kills animals" and "Your daddy kills fish" propaganda ads. Their sick and disturbing, and yet so unintentionally hilarious. I might have them saved somewhere on my computer if anyone's interested in them.

PETA is wrong. Just wrong. I mean, I love animals with all my heart and view them as equals, but groups like PETA are just bad. I eat animals because animals eat animals, and it isn't morally wrong to consume meat, truly. A lion does it without feeling guilty, why can't I?

What I also don't get is why people have all these "eating animals is wrong" morals (even though animals eat animals), but no one cares one bit about the plants. Whats up with that? Plants are just as alive as any animal (including people), and yet we kill plants like carrots by pulling them out of the dirt, cutting off their source of nuteriants just as slitting an animals neck kills it. And while some plants are meant to be eaten- like fruit- carrots, being a root, aren't intended to be food. It's like, you don't actually see the carrot die or see it bleed or scream, so it's not morally wrong to raise them in giant fields for the sole purpose of harvesting them and eating them. In fact, people celebrate this mass murder of plants with harvest fesivals. If eating dead plants is perfectly fine, then so is eating dead animals.

Which, of course, reminds me of the wonderful Futurama episode with the "People Agaisnt Eating" orginization. Which is the only right way to go. Eating is death, and death is bad! I say we stop eating!
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:36 PM
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What I also don't get is why people have all these "eating animals is wrong" morals (even though animals eat animals), but no one cares one bit about the plants.
Eating animals contributes perhaps more than anything else towards deforestation and desertification.

I'm vegan -- in part -- because I do care about the plants. Although my diet is entirely plant-based, it results in the death of far fewer plants than yours. Consider what that cow you got your steak from was fed. Far more grain was required to produce that steak than you would needed to have eaten.

PETA has issues. I don't like PETA very much (although I love their stickers. But that doesn't mean that veg*anism has the same issues. It frankly does not.
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Old 12-17-2005, 10:56 PM
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Eating animals contributes perhaps more than anything else towards deforestation and desertification.
How does eating a cow kill a tree?

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I'm vegan -- in part -- because I do care about the plants. Although my diet is entirely plant-based, it results in the death of far fewer plants than yours. Consider what that cow you got your steak from was fed. Far more grain was required to produce that steak than you would needed to have eaten.
Ah, what I said above was partly for humor, but eating grain doesn't necessarily kill the grain plant (I guess it depends on how they harvest the grain). Just like eating an apple helps the apple tree rather than hurts it. But some plants are actually killed in order to be eaten, like onions, garlic, carrots, potato (sometimes), things that need to be pulled from their roots to eat, etc.

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I'm vegan -- in part -- because I do care about the plants. Although my diet is entirely plant-based, it results in the death of far fewer plants than yours.
See, though, not really. Because those cows are still being fed grain and slaughtered whether you buy their meat or not. Even if you stop buying their meat, it'll have a very little effect, if any effect at all on the amount of animals killed. In fact, some meat goes to waste if no one buys it, and therefore the animals died in vain. And because you eat more plant matter, more of the plant matter you eat is actually dead, rather than something like a pear, which is meant to be consumed. Cows don't eat roots as much as we do.

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Consider what that cow you got your steak from was fed. Far more grain was required to produce that steak than you would needed to have eaten.
Even if they stopped killing cows for meat altogether, the cows would still need to eat all that grain (or even more, because they'd live longer, and therefore consume more over the span of their life). In fact, if we let all the cows go free completely, they would need to still eat grass. Cows need to eat food just as we do. It's the food chain.

Not trying to start an argument, here, just getting in my two cents. I'll try and be quiet now.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:11 PM
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YES. I make fun of my sister's vegetarian friend all the time by using that acronym.

Concerning the first post, I actually knew that PETA was doing that stuff, which is why I'm completely against PETA, so I'm not too shocked at the news.
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How does eating a cow kill a tree?
Farmers in South America do what they can to make a living. Consumers in North America really like meat. The farming of animals is very land intensive -- there needs to be room to graze, and even more room to grow food for the animals. So they cut into the rainforest. Land in the rainforst being as it is, monocultures are not very well supported, so the soil becomes useless and they need to cut further into the rainforest.



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See, though, not really. Because those cows are still being fed grain and slaughtered whether you buy their meat or not. Even if you stop buying their meat, it'll have a very little effect, if any effect at all on the amount of animals killed. In fact, some meat goes to waste if no one buys it, and therefore the animals died in vain. And because you eat more plant matter, more of the plant matter you eat is actually dead, rather than something like a pear, which is meant to be consumed. Cows don't eat roots as much as we do.
We aren't just dealing with animals that pop up in our factory farms of their own accord. These animals are forced into existence by humans -- If dramatically less meat is purchased, dramatically less livestock will be bred. By extention, less crops will be grown, and fewer plants harmed.
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Old 12-17-2005, 11:59 PM
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PETA killing animals! That's the biggest peice of f****** irony I've ever seen.

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Holy f***. That's the most funniest thing I've ever heard.
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ooookaaay. PETA IS REALLY MESSED UP. so messed up i can't think of anything to say. before you know it PETA is going to go after Animal Crossing. "you can hit the animals with a butterfly net! lets sue Nintendo!" or "you can trap the animals in holes! lets sue Nintendo!"
PETA is going right above the ACLU in my most hated companies.
P.S: Miniblin, i totally agree with you!
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ooookaaay. PETA IS REALLY MESSED UP. so messed up i can't think of anything to say. before you know it PETA is going to go after Animal Crossing. "you can hit the animals with a butterfly net! lets sue Nintendo!" or "you can trap the animals in holes! lets sue Nintendo!"
PETA is going right above the ACLU in my most hated companies.
P.S: Miniblin, i totally agree with you!
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

Apparently this isn't late-breaking news.
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Old 12-18-2005, 02:56 AM
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That is just disgusting. No matter if they are suffering or not, if you kill these animals for fun or for whatever disgusting reasons out there, you are no better than a serial killer on the loose. PETA should be sued and destroyed immediately.
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