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I quote a conversation:

Myself: Failcube was more of a chat-related thing, not forums.

Ked was just, in my eyes, worse than anything. But probably not to other members... since he attacked me directly. And no one knew it was him on those other accounts that got banned. So... no one really knows who he was and what he did.

I'm really done talking about it. I feel uncomfortable mentioning this stuff.

Heh, only a guy like me can get this emotional over a stupid internet event. o_O
Myself: I had no idea I still was talked about on that forum.
Myself: PoisonTicTac
Myself: I give this thread 10/10.
2nd Party: o.O *reads*
Myself: Ked was useless. As are all trolls, and people like them. People who like to 'pwn' are also useless. If you want my honest opinion, I think people who go out of their way to do such things should have parents who use the AOL child locks to restrict their access to, say, the websites for Sesame Street and the like; those that do not allow for posting, and spewing your uselessness across the Internet.
2nd Party: ............
Myself: Doesn't this mean I win, though?
2nd Party: Wait...what thread are they talking about?
Myself: Where I did the bloody arm thing?
2nd Party: I totally missed this...
Myself: I made a thread in the feedback section that was just a graphic picture of an arm cut up by a machine, apparently they took that as a death threat?
2nd Party: Wait...am I reading the right thread?
Myself: >_> Huh?
2nd Party: I'm so confused.
Myself: Wait, start over.
2nd Party: Okay...
2nd Party: I clicked on the link you sent me, right?
2nd Party: The first post is talking about someone trying to get his BA character approved...
2nd Party: PoisonTicTac?
2nd Party: That's what I'm seeing, anyway. Maybe what you're talking about is further on in the thread...
Myself: Yeah, it's further on.
Myself: They were talking about the worst thing on ZU.
2nd Party: Ah. Found it.
Myself: And halfway through the thread, around page 2, it just turns into "HOLY CRAP KED WAS A WORTHLESS ****BAG."
Myself: I just find it highly ironic.
2nd Party: *shakes head*
Myself: Good kids on that forum.
2nd Party: See, I don't understand the whole thing with everyone hating you. Of course, I never really went outside the BA, but...I mean...
Myself: I challenged their opinions.
Myself: You know of Socrates, right?
2nd Party: Yeah.
Myself: I did what he did, only around ten times as offensive.
Myself: And you know what they did to him? Hemlock and all? Yeah, seeing a pretty big parallel here.
2nd Party: Wait...are you somehow related to Sear? Er...or does "practically related to Sear" just mean you guys were really good friends?
Myself: No. In fact I don't like him at all.
2nd Party: Okay.
2nd Party: Because GC's going on about you and Sear and I'm like...huh?
Myself: Oh, they thought it was some conspiracy theory.
Myself: Ignore that.
2nd Party: Wow...so much stuff I didn't even know about...
2nd Party: o,O
2nd Party: o.o*
2nd Party: I'll get it right eventually... o.O
2nd Party: So...um...you attacked GC directly, eh?
2nd Party: >_>
Myself: Basically, some people on the forum had not only mod power but were very insecure in their beliefs. When I challenged them, they had a reaction-formation and kneejerked. The ironic part is they were saying I should be banned because I was overly insulting, yet they make threads saying I'm a worthless human being, which I find funny because they banned me for saying that to other people. And yes.
2nd Party: Hm.
2nd Party: Interesting.
2nd Party: Who wasn't stable in their beliefs? The mods?
Myself: That, and the concept of one human being being worth less than the other is probably one of the move vile concepts in human history. And yes, the mods and friends of them.
2nd Party: Okay, Mirren....has just...lost all of the respect that he might have possibly possessed in my eyes...
Myself: I find it ironic that they would say a human is worth less than another one judging by an internet forum. Saying someone is intrinsically worth less than you is fundamentally why we had Russian purges.
2nd Party: "Oh no GC, I feel the same. I felt that Kedsy was one of the saddest, worthless, most pathetic members to ever post here, hell, that's all true."
Myself: See, that's a reaction-formation. It's rationalization.
2nd Party: *shakes head*
2nd Party: You can't go around characterizing people based on an internet forum....
Myself: I've come to believe most humans derive euphoria from insulting others. Now that I go back I should have just left the forum, but the point is that while I was just raising a stink for no reason and joking, they are entirely serious.
2nd Party: Wow.
Myself: I never really, truly thought GC was some horrible, worthless being; that's impossible to judge over the internet. It was quite obvious I was just being a practical joker, howerver I suppose some people, to put it simply, can't take a joke.
2nd Party: That's very true.

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I am the one you once knew as Ked. Therefore, I posit this:

Do you judge a man based on his activities through the internet? Do you believe this represents a true self?

Do you believe it is right to think one man is intrinsically worth less than another?

Do you believe that you are correct and logical in your thinking?

I challenge this. I am ZU's Socrates and always will be, for I challenged your beliefs and you gave me the hemlock oil to drink, which I did so willingly. So, are you justified?

I know I shall be banned instantly, so I'm just going to go ahead and leave before you can.

Originally Posted by justin3

Ummmmm...... ok that was random lol.

Not if you read the thread.

First of all, if you do something like that on Zelda Universe forums, you're going to get consequences. This isn't a game, like some people think. People ACTUALLY take this forum seriously. Way too many people think the internet is a game, but what you need to realize is, you aren't safe just because you have a computer screen in front of your face. Harrassment on the internet isn't only untolerable in most cases, but punishable by law. My friend created a bunch of accounts and went absolutely crazy on the forums, posting porn, flaming moderators such as Lioness and Tsukasa, and also having a huge AIM conversation with Scott, the webmaster of the forums. Shiek 84 reported all of his accounts, so his actions were limited because he was banned so quickly.

First of all, he doesn't understand that ZU isn't' a joke. What you do here, is in many respects the same as real life. Yes, it may be easier to get away with, but in the end it all doesn't fly, and you'll get caught anyway. Don't lure yourself in to a false sense of security and do whatever the hell you want on a forum just because you think your funny.

You see, your friend deserved what he got. And, yes, he is a bad person because he did the things he did.

If you or your friend harrass the forums again, I will inform a moderator, who will in turn take action if you don't stop harrasing the forums.

I like Zelda Universe, and quite frankly, I couldn't care less if you did or not, because your obviously an idiot.

Thank you, and goodnight.

Hmm, catchy thread title, you deserve credit for that

Hopefully the mods will let you stay for at least just the thread, you and I both know that I hate you, but if you can create an actually interesting thread around here I'll be happy.

Pfft. If you think I'm coming close to forgiving you, you're wrong. Though from you, I would expect that you either don't care, or expect absolutely no result and just wish to see how the populous reacts.

Do you judge a man based on his activities through the internet? Do you believe this represents a true self?

No, and no once more. Do I believe that through your actions to myself and other members of this forum that you have constituted yourself as one who, in your own words, derive euphoria from insulting others? Yes. I'm sure that you know this already yourself, and that you are not exempt from this rule. You do, however, take it much further than most people would, to the point where it is not only unacceptable, but incomprehensible.

Do you believe it is right to think one man is intrinsically worth less than another?

What would you say if I said you were the one exception?

Do you believe that you are correct and logical in your thinking?

It depends what thinking you are referring to. You're creating abiguity - there is no definate thought to which you are asking us we think. Therefore, I can't give you an accurate concrete response.


However, I do feel that if you are trying to convey that you are a completely different person offline, then I suggest that you start reflecting that personality online instead of flaunting discoveries that, I had beleived to be, common knowledge. You're no Socrates, that's for sure.


Now, if you can change your old erred ways and become a good forum member, I'll let your umpteenth multiple account creation slide. You expect to be banned, but so far you have done nothing ban worthy, so there's no reason for me to do anything yet. Perhaps you can gain my trust.

Well... I fianally get to hear from the one that everyone has been talking about lately, and I am not surprised in the least.

First off before I respond to the points, I will say this:
I beleive that every man or woman on the planet will be accountable for every action they take, good or bad.

Posting a picture of an arm isn't normal behavior in the least, in fact, it's sickening and shouldn't be tolerated, and whatever lofty opinion you have of yourself and your inteligence means nothing.

It's not how well you think or you logical process that gives you respect, it's how you treat others.

Do you judge a man based on his activities through the internet? Do you believe this represents a true self?

You are you and I am me no matter what form we come in. The internet provides a shroud over your true-self, and if this is what you want others to see you as... then so be it... but I will take the high road.

Do you believe it is right to think one man is intrinsically worth less than another?

No, but it all comes back to respect and the golden rule. If you insult others, it will come back in one way or another, and eventually it will add or subtract to your worth as a human being.

I challenge this. I am ZU's Socrates and always will be, for I challenged your beliefs and you gave me the hemlock oil to drink, which I did so willingly. So, are you justified?

Again, you hold yourself in such high opinion that I am surprised the world hasn't tipped to one side due to your inflated ego. Get over yourself.

Why come back as a new user? I came back after 2 years and I'm still using the same username.

The old name got banned

Oh, and I just realized how much I love that one comment about me from the second party. "Okay, Mirren....has just...lost all of the respect that he might have possibly possessed in my eyes..."

Please, there's no such thing as respect for me. That's just a myth

OK, so this guy defines harrassment as "challenging others beliefs" and thinks its ok because it's not the way he acts in real life. What sort of reality is he living in?

Originally Posted by The Amadeus Formaly Known as Kedisar

Do you judge a man based on his activities through the internet? Do you believe this represents a true self?

I don't believe that ones activities on the internet represent ones true self, however I do believe that the judgement one would make about some one based off their activity on the internet is vaild. On the internet you can be anyone, and while that person may not be who you are in real life, it is the only person that you are to those that only hear from you on the internet. Therefor you can't be a complete dick to everyone on the internet and then turn around and say 'Don't judge me! I'm not like that in real life!' You acted the way you did, and thats how people around here know you as. Your choice, live with it. And don't expect pity just because you might be a saint in real life, your behaviour here was unacceptable.

Originally Posted by The Amadeus Formaly Known as Kedisar

Do you believe it is right to think one man is intrinsically worth less than another?

When they act in such a way that they make themselves seem to be worth less than another, then sure.

Originally Posted by The Amadeus Formaly Known as Kedisar

I challenge this. I am ZU's Socrates and always will be, for I challenged your beliefs and you gave me the hemlock oil to drink, which I did so willingly. So, are you justified?

Socrates was only charged for challenging peoples beliefs, along with corrupting the youth; Neither of which he truly committed. Out of the two I'd say you were more guilty of the latter than the former.

Originally Posted by Mirren

People, there's no use in replying to a man who isn't even here anymore...

I can't decide whether this is spam or rent-a-modding. Deleted.

And topic, locked.