HIV Cure Found

http://theobsidiankings.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1017

Of course, since this isn't an article that was on the news (because apparently, as some said, it wasn't the Americans who found the cure), we shouldn't take this too seriously as of yet. But if this news is true, then that means we might be able to combat HIV effectively it seems.

Anyone knows the percentage of the amount of HIV patients around the globe?

No idea, but I read a really interesting article about uncircumsized men being three times more likely to catch it. *desperately tries to convince bf to get cut*

And even if this is a cure, it will not help the thousands dying in Africa and other poor countries around the world.

I hope this gets publized SOON so that the Americans don't get a chance to buy the Japanese out and hide the cure. You don't think they really want a cure for cancer and AIDS do you? *will shut up now before start bashing against me*

Originally Posted by MyBabyTex

I hope this gets publized SOON so that the Americans don't get a chance to buy the Japanese out and hide the cure. You don't think they really want a cure for cancer and AIDS do you? *will shut up now before start bashing against me*

Whaa? :confused: Please explain. I'm not gonna bash you, I'm just confused. Why wouldn't Americans want a cure for these diseases?

You don't think they really want a cure for cancer and AIDS do you? *will shut up now before start bashing against me*

Are you implying that Americans want killer diseases to spread? I mean, we pretty much accepted pennicliin to save millons of lives here, so Im pretty sure a cure for HIV may be accepted, although I have doubts about the article's clarity.

What would happen if the US government got a hold of this cure? Who would have first access to it, that is if they do not HIDE it first? Rich, fat white men.

What would the benefit be to mass producing it so that millions of lives can be saved? There would be none in the minds of the gov't. The average American would not be able to afford it. It would cost tons of money.. not necessarily because it is expensive, but because they would want to limit who could use it.

Disease gives a natural balance to society. We are multiplying too rapidly. It is said that in 2040 we will have DOUBLED our population size. DOUBLED. There were a few other statistics not sure which year though but the mass of humans will weigh the same as the earth.
For every person that dies, two people are born.

So if Cancer and AIDS were cured... what way do we have to cull humans to insure that we do not BALLOON up in population before this doubling occurs? Disease and war. War is not abundant in western society, so we have no natural enemy besides disease.

You may disagree, but don't think the gov't doesn't think like this. It's wonderful to assume they want whats best for us, but if the cure was found by the US first I guarantee it either wouldn't have been brought to the public eye or it would cost insane amounts.

What would happen if the US government got a hold of this cure? Who would have first access to it, that is if they do not HIDE it first? Rich, fat white men.

Im sure when pennicillin was found, the first people to use it were rich fat white men. It was actauly the army and many poor people as well. aying something like this is beliving American sterotypes and US goverment conspiracys.

Penicillin is on quite a different scale, in my opinion. It was a must to mass produce or the world's population would have been DEVESTATED. Right now, AIDS is a threat but nowhere near devestating. It is generally not effecting the catholic/conservative population as widespread as it is havocing the gay community, drug users,african americans, poverty stricken countries, etc etc. In NO way am I saying HIV Is restricted to such social groups as that would be ignorant. But predominantly, that is who is effected with AIDS.

I think it is really lovely to have faith in your government. However, I am a realist.

I think I'll just reply using this intresting quote from Erik in the chat:
<Erik> How can the american govnerment control such a thing when the health care is privatized?

I think no more has to be said.

Just so you know, MyBabyTex, HIV can spread to anybody that has fluid contact with the infected people. So no matter what community you are in, you are still at risk of HIV infection. Therefore, religions, communities, and so on, are not an issue. HIV can spread even to people who are not gay or who are in Catholic religion, etc.

Of course, you did say that HIV is not restricted to certain groups, but you also need to realize that everyone has equal chance of getting it. Sometimes, statistics are not entirely accurate. Who knows how many people are infected in reality than the ones that are mentioned in the statistic numbers?

Nox, I really think it is great you have such faith in your government. Who am I to shake things up a bit? I could try to give a different perspective on that comment, but won't. You have your beliefs, I have mine.

Lonewolf, obiously I agree with you. I am very educated in HIV. Unfortunately, my uncle is afflicted with it. He caught it from a woman from having unprotected sex. So I am the last person you have to tell that to. But the statistics (And yes I TOTALLY agree that stats are often wrong) show that the majority of people are of certain ethnic and social groups. But obviously, it is not restricted to that.

This is truly great news if it turns out to be true. AIDS is one of the most horrifying diseases out there, right along with Alzhiemers and Cancer. We'll see. From what I've read, AIDS is an extremely adaptive virus and could possibly become resistant to the medication over time. I really hope they found a cure, or maybe even a vaccination, and that it works in the long run as well.

call me a conspiracy theorist, but dont AIDS and cancer treatments make pharmaceutical companies tons of money? So the longer there isnt a cure, the more money they make, no? Remember, these are the same companies that make it incredibly difficult for poorer nations like those of africa to sell drugs under generic (i dont know the opposite for brand-name) names, because it would lose them money.

im not saying im right, just an idea. Of course, if there is a cure, then thats great news, and im really happy for all those people who suffer from HIV/AIDS.

^ You read my mind dude. The people want a cure, but the companies want to make money.

Even if a cure is given out, I'm sure 3rd world countries wont get it, though they need it the most. Companies will start giving them medicine, but not the cure. sigh

Way to redicule the American government and Americans in general. Never, in my life have I been so offended. I feel horrible that someone would say what a few of you have said about the American government. I don't even like the it all that much, but to say that the my country's government is that selfish - that they'd deny it's citizens of medicine so useful and life altering - makes me want to punch you all in the face.

People who post news topics without links should be hanged, preferably at noon. (And no, linking to another forum is not a link.)

UneBelleLilas-- well said!

Originally Posted by MyBabyTex

Disease gives a natural balance to society. We are multiplying too rapidly. It is said that in 2040 we will have DOUBLED our population size. DOUBLED. There were a few other statistics not sure which year though but the mass of humans will weigh the same as the earth.
For every person that dies, two people are born.

So if Cancer and AIDS were cured... what way do we have to cull humans to insure that we do not BALLOON up in population before this doubling occurs? Disease and war. War is not abundant in western society, so we have no natural enemy besides disease.

You may disagree, but don't think the gov't doesn't think like this. It's wonderful to assume they want whats best for us, but if the cure was found by the US first I guarantee it either wouldn't have been brought to the public eye or it would cost insane amounts.

How about you do your part, dear, and join this movement. Only you can stop the human plague!

Oh, well said, Bobslob. I burst out laughing when I clicked that link. And they say us, the U.S., is selfish. Sheesh! Whoever typed that should be one of those supposed 50%.

Originally Posted by Bobslob

People who post news topics without links should be hanged, preferably at noon. (And no, linking to another forum is not a link.)

Unfortunately, there's no link to the "link" that you love the most. I got the link as shown on the search engine and this is just for a fun debate or discussion rather than a political showdown. Technically speaking, that's a link. Yes. That's a link. It's linking to another page so it's called a link. I think you want to say a "credible" link, which, I agree, this link I gave isn't credible.

Originally Posted by Lone Wolf

Unfortunately, there's no link to the "link" that you love the most. I got the link as shown on the search engine and this is just for a fun debate or discussion rather than a political showdown. Technically speaking, that's a link. Yes. That's a link. It's linking to another page so it's called a link. I think you want to say a "credible" link, which, I agree, this link I gave isn't credible.

My point is that you should really find the news source. If you're making the topic, take the extra minute or two to hunt it down. Otherwise are we just speculating on something made up?

I did a quick google search right now and got these links. Asashi and Channel News Asia.