'Adams' Proved existance

Well it is said they proved there was one man who passed down a genetic mutation that all men have! It doesnt mean his name was Adam, but it does mean there was one man that fathered us all. AND it ties Evolution with Religion. OK

The genetic mutation caused Adam to be able to think like we do. The first person that was civilized.

They traced the mutation to the Rift Valley in South America. Which matches the scenes in the Bible

That shows that Adams homeland was there, and was therefor a person of color!

The modeled Adams head and this is what he was said to look like.

Source: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ncerwells.html

Avoid explicitly religious discussion in this topic, please. I won't hesitate to hand out strikes.

This thread is science, not religion.

Originally Posted by T-Nemesis

This thread is science, not religion.

And I'm requesting that it stay that way -- many would attempt to derail it into a creationism vs evolution debate.

8bit- Its been speculated that humans derived from a form of mutation, but now its been traced back to modern day humans, in other words its just been proved. Supposedly 'Eve' was traced back to Asia somewhere, and due to tectonic shifting etc it would make sense if 'Adam' and 'Eve' originated from the same place.

EDIT: Trico, I'll try my best to keep everything away from religion.

Also can I just say now, to avoid complications, 'Adam' and 'Eve' are just terms to define the first modern day human male and female, not the biblical characters.

They traced the mutation to the Rift Valley in South America.

South America? That means the Amazon is in Africa!

But yeah, this is an intresting find here. I dont really have much more to say, but it'd be cool if they also find 'Eve'

Very interesting.
I remember some dumb N.Geo special a few years ago called the Real Eve.
I believe that you can believe in both creationism and evolution, that they don't each deny the other.
Although i think it should be pretty obvious on a scientific basis that the first man was no white man.

Originally Posted by Nox

South America? That means the Amazon is in Africa!

But yeah, this is an intresting find here. I dont really have much more to say, but it'd be coll if they also find 'Eve'

Well Im sure that if there is an "Adam" there has to be an "Eve" because..... well...... you know. I do believe this is old news though. herd about it a few years ago, I did.

Originally Posted by 8bit

Well Im sure that if there is an "Adam" there has to be an "Eve" because..... well...... you know. I do believe this is old news though. herd about it a few years ago, I did.

As I said before, you're right this has been speculated before, but now they have found more evidence etc. to actually prove it

They traced the mutation to the Rift Valley in South America. Which matches the scenes in the Bible

I think not. The Bible is very explicit about the location of the Garden of Eden. It triangulates it for us, actually.

Sorry, Trick, I couldn't let that one slide.

Anyway, although I don't know how far this thread can go (I expect a short lifespan simply due to lack of inert momentum), I will say that there are those scientists who believe all of mankind originated from one single female... Somewhat related, perhaps, to this topic of conversation.

Originally Posted by Big Bro Davidia

I think not. The Bible is very explicit about the location of the Garden of Eden. It triangulates it for us, actually.

Sorry, Trick, I couldn't let that one slide.

Anyway, although I don't know how far this thread can go (I expect a short lifespan simply due to lack of inert momentum), I will say that there are those scientists who believe all of mankind originated from one single female... Somewhat related, perhaps, to this topic of conversation.

He's quite right.
Here, i've got proof. Not to be too trying to be overtly religious but....

Genesis 2:10-14
A river flows out of Eden to water the garden and from there it divides and becomes four branches. The name of the first is PIshon; it is the one that flows around the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; and the gold of that land is good; bdellium and onyx stone are there. The name of the second river is Gihon; it is the one that flows around the whole land of Cush. The name of the third river is Tigris, which flows east of Assyria. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

So if you're going by Jewish tradition, Eden was situated in the southern part of the middle east, near Sumeria, the first advanced civilization on earth (pretty much)

The quote in post #1 was taken from a friend, please excuse any mistakes in it

Originally Posted by T-Nemesis

The quote in post #1 was taken from a friend, please excuse any mistakes in it

Yeah, I noticed it wasn't from you ;0) Excused, hehe.

I just wish I had something more to add, because we should make this as scientifically based as possible. All I can say is that mutations of that magnitude are impossible (speaking from what we observe in these days) without elaborate intermediate stages. I find it hard to believe that this "Adam" fellow suddenly found himself able to think on our level, yet his progenitors were much further back. Take a look at a two-year-old's ability to think and a twelve-year-old's. Both are highly advanced individuals (by animal standards--notwithstanding that some creatures are said to be able to think up to the level of a six-year-old at their prime of life). However, there must stages in between which are almost indistinguishable when set side by side due to the sheer number of them within a short space of time. Psychologists can only hope to group them together in some type of spectrum.

Originally Posted by Big Bro Davidia

Yeah, I noticed it wasn't from you ;0) Excused, hehe.

I just wish I had something more to add, because we should make this as scientifically based as possible. All I can say is that mutations of that magnitude are impossible (speaking from what we observe in these days) without elaborate intermediate stages. I find it hard to believe that this "Adam" fellow suddenly found himself able to think on our level, yet his progenitors were much further back. Take a look at a two-year-old's ability to think and a twelve-year-old's. Both are highly advanced individuals (by animal standards--notwithstanding that some creatures are said to be able to think up to the level of a six-year-old at their prime of life). However, there must stages in between which are almost indistinguishable when set side by side due to the sheer number of them within a short space of time. Psychologists can only hope to group them together in some type of spectrum.

To my understanding the mutation itself was a gradual event, where the jaw became smaller, and the cranium (a portion of the skull) became larger, which allowed for a larger brain and therefore more development. Like I said, I think it happened over time but 'Adam' was the first humanoid that would scientifically be defined as a modern day human.

this is amazing. Proof of us comming from one man. All relgion aside, this is amazing. Evolution "may" have ooccured, but haveing a source finally is amazing.

I feel so connected to the world now - the proof that we all share the same blood - bless my hippy soul! (wipes tears of happiness from eyes!)

Originally Posted by T-Nemesis

8bit- Its been speculated that humans derived from a form of mutation, but now its been traced back to modern day humans, in other words its just been proved. Supposedly 'Eve' was traced back to Asia somewhere, and due to tectonic shifting etc it would make sense if 'Adam' and 'Eve' originated from the same place.

EDIT: Trico, I'll try my best to keep everything away from religion.

Also can I just say now, to avoid complications, 'Adam' and 'Eve' are just terms to define the first modern day human male and female, not the biblical characters.

I'm not sure I understand. If "Adam" was the pioneer of humanity, then was "Eve" a descendent, but the first female descendent? Or did they develop the same mutation in the same generation?