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Aliens In Egypt

I've heard somewhere that aliens are related to the pyramids. Personally I think it's possible because how can such primative tools build these huge triangle prisms? What do you think?
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:51 AM
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Yes, some people believe that it would've been impossible for human beings to create such amazing structures. I've really seen no proof that says that Aliens could have done such a thing. I'm sure it was a HELL of a lot of hard work and thousands of people. Highly doubt it....but it makes you think...
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I've heard somewhere that aliens are related to the pyramids. Personally I think it's possible because how can such primative tools build these huge triangle prisms? What do you think?
I don't think aliens built them and the pyramids are not triangular prisms they're square based pyrameds and here is a site that basically explanes how they made the pyramids.
http://www.touregypt.net/construction/
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While the alien theory is possible, it's unlikely. The ancient egyptians were actually very smart, and designed tools to help them move such large blocks. And also, thousands of people worked on the pyramids, lots of people would be working together hauling up each stone. Originally, Egyptian pharoahs were buried under mastabas, large structures made of stone, about the shape and size of the bases of pyramids (that should hint at something to you). Imhotep, the royal physician and architect of the pharoah Djoser, made a mastaba for his king, and was then struck with sudden inspiration. He proceeded to build several smaller mastabas on top of the bottom one, one on top of the other, for six levels, creating the first step pyramid. This soon evolved into the true pyramid. So I don't think aliens helped them, I think they were just incredibly smart. After all, there are pyramids all over the world. In China, Peru, Indonesia. Hrmmm...this post seems a little long-winded, but oh well.
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Yeah, I belive you. I also know that aliens had built Stonehege and the Easter Island heads. Aliens also discovered America and made the Great Lakes. Wait, I mean the aliens made Paul Bunyan, who then made the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River, as well as the Rocky and Appalachian moutains.

Seriously, this is one of those stupid tabolid theroies that is so laughable, it makes Jesus cry. It is possible that humans had built the pyramids as even if the Ancient Egyptians were primitave, they still built massve temples and cities, no? Beliving a retarded theroy like this makes me wonder if people wearing aluminum foil hats worte this type of crap.
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Ha ha, Italian Link and I were talking about this earlier... And I spoke to KnowItAllSister a few days ago...

To tell you the truth, I do believe that Aliens built they pyramids. I always have... And, since Sizzlin wants somethign to go off of, I can Provide the Necesary knowledge for you all to look at....

ALSO, I have this video called "Chariots to the Gods" which explains ALOT of things that would make your head spin...

BUT, this is enough stuff for ONE sitting to provide atleast a more interesting reason to post to this topic...


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First, look at this diagram:
Click the image to open in full size.

The pyramid is highlighted in red, and its two diagonals are extended beyond the end of the pyramid to the north-east and north-west. The mass of squiggly lines above the pyramid is the Delta of the Nile River, and, as you can see the two diagonals encase the Nile neatly and entirely.
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Next Exibit:
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The big dark shape on the upper left of this diagram is the great pyramid. If you look at the compass rose in the bottom right, you can see that the pyramid is lined up exactly with the magnetic North Pole, a difference of only 16 minutes, or some absurdly small number like that (there are 60 minutes in one degree). COINCIDENCE? How could the Egyptians possibly have built their pyramid facing the exact magnetic North Pole without even having a compass? FYI, a compass was not invented for a few thousand years after the ancient Egyptians were long gone? IS THAT LIKELY????
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Now take a look at This:
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This is a photograph of the Great Pyramid of Giza, and its neighbor, as seen from the Sphinx, on the evening of the summer solstice. As you can see, the sun is setting in the exact center of the two pyramids.

For the Egyptians to be able to do this, they must have known the day of the summer solstice, and they therefore, must have known the exact length of the year, or 365.25; once again, a fact not discovered until long after the Egyptians were gone.
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The Sphinx
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This is a photograph taken on the day of the winter solstice from the entrance of the Great Pyramid. The Big shape silhouetted in the middle of the photograph is the Sphinx. Since this is only a photograph, and not a movie, you can't get the full effect. But even in the photo, you can see that the sun is tracing around the Sphinx's head. In actuality, the sun rises exactly at the left side of the base of the Sphinx's head. Then it traces it all the way around until it sets on the right side of the Sphinx's head.

Had the Egyptians done this, since this occurs only on the day of the winter solstice, they would have had to have known the exact length of a year.
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Orions Belt:
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This above image is a diagram of the stars of the Belt of Orion. Now look at the diagram of the pyramids below.

Click the image to open in full size.

Though this fact is not as remarkable, the positioning of the three Pyramids of Giza are exactly aligned with the position of the three stars in the belt of Orion, both in position and in size. While it is possible, it would create many difficulties for the Egyptians in terms of measuring huge distances. Not only this, but in fact, at the time that the pyramids were supposedly built (about 3000 BC), the stars that make up the Belt of Orion were not exactly at the correct angle to match up with the pyramids. If the location of the stars is traced back over thousands of years, the time at which the belt is exactly aligned with the pyramids is in fact 10,500 BC.

A time when there were supposedly no
civilized humans living on the earth. Another fact to support this is, if you consider the Sphinx, a lion with a human head and then look at the size of the body, you can see that the body is perfectly proportioned for the head of a lion, not the human head. This human head looks tiny and silly sitting on top of the body. This is because the Sphinx was actually built in 10,500 BC, around the same time as the pyramids, with a real head of a lion. Evidence to support this is that there are signs of water erosion all over the Sphinx. The last time that there was any water nearby, aside from the Nile is around 10,000 BC. Also, the constellation of Leo the Lion (thus closely related to the Sphinx), was in fact rising directly behind the sun in 10,500 BC.

Are they saying that the Egyptians built their pyramids to be in the exact shape of Orion's Belt, but purposely aligned them differently from what was actually in the sky? That after they built the Sphinx, they purposely made the head look small and funny? Then, they broke their backs carrying water from the Nile just so that they could put water erosion lines all over the body?????

Why is it that the great Pyramids of Giza, built in 3,000, are perfect, and still standing as tall as the day they were built? (Aside from the capstone and the polished stones, which were stripped by humans in the building of Cairo) The other Pyramids, which were supposedly built about 500 years later, all have shoddy masonry, and are crumbling down. An example of this is the famous 'bent' pyramid, which started out with the sides being built at one angle, then suddenly shifts in the middle to a shallower angle. This is because the angle at which it was started was much too steep for it to stand when finished. It is because the Egyptian pharaohs saw the great pyramids standing on their land and decided that they wanted pyramids of their own. But they found that it was much harder to do than was expected and ended up building silly looking structures that don't even come close to comparing with the magnitude of elegance emanating from the great pyramids.


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If you take the perimeter of the pyramid and divide it by two times the height, you get a number that is exactly equivalent to the number pi (3.14159...) up to the fifteenth digit. The chances of this phenomenon happening by sheer chance is remarkably small. Did the ancient Egyptians know what the number pi was? Not likely, seeing as it was a number not calculated accurately to the fourth digit until the 6th century, and the pyramids calculate it to the fifteenth.
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What about the fact that even though the sides of the base of the pyramid are some 757 feet long, it still forms an almost perfect square? Every angle in the base is exactly 90 degrees. In fact, the sides have a difference in length of something like two centimeters, which is an incredibly small amount.
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What about the fact that although the Egyptians kept very careful records about everything they ever did; every king they had, every war they fought, and every structure they built, there were no records of them ever having built the pyramids?
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What about the fact that the Egyptians had not even invented the wheel yet, but the blocks that they had to carry to build the pyramids weighed about 2 tons each? 4,000 lbs.? What did they do... use cement? In fact, they used so much stone, that if you took all of the stone they used and cut it into 1 foot square blocks, it would extend 2/3 of the way around the earth!!!
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If you take the line of longitude that the pyramid lies on and the latitude that the pyramid lies on, 31 degrees north by 31 degrees west (the fact that they are the same number is a coincidence???) they are the two lines that cover the most combined land area in the world. In essence, the pyramid is the center of all of the land mass of the whole earth!!!!
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How about the fact that a group of modern scientists attempted to build a pyramid out next to the real one using modern technologies, and after something like 100 days, succeeded in building one about 1/40 of the size of the real one????
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Did you know that the height of the pyramid (481 feet) is almost exactly 1/1,000,000,000 of the distance from the earth to the sun (480.6 billion feet)?
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What about all of that fungi that was found in King Tutu's chamber? Fungi which has never before been seen on earth? What about the Pharaoh's curse?????
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See, you just HAD to get me excited =P I'm glad that you brought this topic up, becuase I LOVE to talk about this =^_^=

I hoonestly believe they were here, and I believe they will be back in 2010... but, that's just my opion considering i believe they're still here =p but that's just me...
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I have one question: Where is your proof that aliens did it? Simply saying that 'Humans couldn't have' is not evidence, it's speculation at best. If you can give us any proof that aliens helped then we might consider it. Sorry for the harsh tone, but it's a lesson that very few people seem to learn, you need proof, not open ended guesses. I could easily say "Humans aren't smart enough to speak, we must have alien help to co-ordinate our lungs and vocal cords to make such complex sounds and rythms." As you can see, the idea is silly and simply saying that 'humans can't do that' doesn't make it real.

Now, onto the 'proof':

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First, look at this diagram:
Click the image to open in full size.

The pyramid is highlighted in red, and its two diagonals are extended beyond the end of the pyramid to the north-east and north-west. The mass of squiggly lines above the pyramid is the Delta of the Nile River, and, as you can see the two diagonals encase the Nile neatly and entirely.
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That's quite the diagram if it gets every part of the pyramid to scale and has 100% accurate angles, not an easy feat, and if it's only a few degrees off then your idea doesn't work.
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Next Exhibit:
Click the image to open in full size.

The big dark shape on the upper left of this diagram is the great pyramid. If you look at the compass rose in the bottom right, you can see that the pyramid is lined up exactly with the magnetic North Pole, a difference of only 16 minutes, or some absurdly small number like that (there are 60 minutes in one degree). COINCIDENCE? How could the Egyptians possibly have built their pyramid facing the exact magnetic North Pole without even having a compass? FYI, a compass was not invented for a few thousand years after the ancient Egyptians were long gone? IS THAT LIKELY????
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The magnetic North pole moves around, so it being within 16 minutes changes rather often. Also, to me at least, the compas roasry points at an angle, so that the Pyramid's sides aren't aligned perfectly, and even if they are one coincidence proves nothing.
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Now take a look at This:
Click the image to open in full size.

This is a photograph of the Great Pyramid of Giza, and its neighbour, as seen from the Sphinx, on the evening of the summer solstice. As you can see, the sun is setting in the exact centre of the two pyramids.

For the Egyptians to be able to do this, they must have known the day of the summer solstice, and they therefore, must have known the exact length of the year, or 365.25; once again, a fact not discovered until long after the Egyptians were gone.
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You don't need to know how many days are in a year to know about the summer solstice, they simply realised that during it if they built their pyramids there then the sun would be in the middle, something that's been known about for a long time, look at Stonehenge, or several other ancient ruins, most of them take the solstice into account.
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The Sphinx
Click the image to open in full size.

This is a photograph taken on the day of the winter solstice from the entrance of the Great Pyramid. The Big shape silhouetted in the middle of the photograph is the Sphinx. Since this is only a photograph, and not a movie, you can't get the full effect. But even in the photo, you can see that the sun is tracing around the Sphinx's head. In actuality, the sun rises exactly at the left side of the base of the Sphinx's head. Then it traces it all the way around until it sets on the right side of the Sphinx's head.

Had the Egyptians done this, since this occurs only on the day of the winter solstice, they would have had to have known the exact length of a year.
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See above, you don't need to know how long a year is to figure those things out, any time keeping system will tell you.
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Orions Belt:
Click the image to open in full size.

This above image is a diagram of the stars of the Belt of Orion. Now look at the diagram of the pyramids below.

Click the image to open in full size.

Though this fact is not as remarkable, the positioning of the three Pyramids of Giza are exactly aligned with the position of the three stars in the belt of Orion, both in position and in size. While it is possible, it would create many difficulties for the Egyptians in terms of measuring huge distances. Not only this, but in fact, at the time that the pyramids were supposedly built (about 3000 BC), the stars that make up the Belt of Orion were not exactly at the correct angle to match up with the pyramids. If the location of the stars is traced back over thousands of years, the time at which the belt is exactly aligned with the pyramids is in fact 10,500 BC.

A time when there were supposedly no
civilized humans living on the earth. Another fact to support this is, if you consider the Sphinx, a lion with a human head and then look at the size of the body, you can see that the body is perfectly proportioned for the head of a lion, not the human head. This human head looks tiny and silly sitting on top of the body. This is because the Sphinx was actually built in 10,500 BC, around the same time as the pyramids, with a real head of a lion. Evidence to support this is that there are signs of water erosion all over the Sphinx. The last time that there was any water nearby, aside from the Nile is around 10,000 BC. Also, the constellation of Leo the Lion (thus closely related to the Sphinx), was in fact rising directly behind the sun in 10,500 BC.

Are they saying that the Egyptians built their pyramids to be in the exact shape of Orion's Belt, but purposely aligned them differently from what was actually in the sky? That after they built the Sphinx, they purposely made the head look small and funny? Then, they broke their backs carrying water from the Nile just so that they could put water erosion lines all over the body?????

Why is it that the great Pyramids of Giza, built in 3,000, are perfect, and still standing as tall as the day they were built? (Aside from the capstone and the polished stones, which were stripped by humans in the building of Cairo) The other Pyramids, which were supposedly built about 500 years later, all have shoddy masonry, and are crumbling down. An example of this is the famous 'bent' pyramid, which started out with the sides being built at one angle, then suddenly shifts in the middle to a shallower angle. This is because the angle at which it was started was much too steep for it to stand when finished. It is because the Egyptian pharaohs saw the great pyramids standing on their land and decided that they wanted pyramids of their own. But they found that it was much harder to do than was expected and ended up building silly looking structures that don't even come close to comparing with the magnitude of elegance emanating from the great pyramids.


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I'll address this in a new post, but suffice to say, it's pure speculation and coincidence.
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If you take the perimeter of the pyramid and divide it by two times the height, you get a number that is exactly equivalent to the number pi (3.14159...) up to the fifteenth digit. The chances of this phenomenon happening by sheer chance is remarkably small. Did the ancient Egyptians know what the number pi was? Not likely, seeing as it was a number not calculated accurately to the fourth digit until the 6th century, and the pyramids calculate it to the fifteenth.
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Actually, the odds of that happening are very likely, if you take any set of Random numbers and perform a random operation on them the odds of getting a mathematically known number are huge, if I can find the link I'll send you to a site where a guy randomly chose phone numbers out of a book and did the same thing, and found almost all of the significant mathematical numbers, some more significant then Pi.
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What about the fact that even though the sides of the base of the pyramid are some 757 feet long, it still forms an almost perfect square? Every angle in the base is exactly 90 degrees. In fact, the sides have a difference in length of something like two centimetres, which is an incredibly small amount.
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I'd like to see where you get this information, in fact, where you get all of this info. But calculating a square is easy, same with finding 90 degrees, again, no sign of any super intelligence
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What about the fact that although the Egyptians kept very careful records about everything they ever did; every king they had, every war they fought, and every structure they built, there were no records of them ever having built the pyramids?
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Once again, I'd like to see where you get this info, besides, ancient Egypt was a long time ago, records get damaged and lost, and who your king is is far more likely to be printed in many places then the exact way to build a pyramid.
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What about the fact that the Egyptians had not even invented the wheel yet, but the blocks that they had to carry to build the pyramids weighed about 2 tons each? 4,000 lbs.? What did they do... use cement? In fact, they used so much stone, that if you took all of the stone they used and cut it into 1 foot square blocks, it would extend 2/3 of the way around the earth!!!
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And, once again, where did you get this info? Also, the Egyptians did know about the wheel, and even if they didn't using logs etc. as Rollers would have been a very workable alternative.
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How about the fact that a group of modern scientists attempted to build a pyramid out next to the real one using modern technologies, and after something like 100 days, succeeded in building one about 1/40 of the size of the real one????
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and once again, sources? It would be very easy to build a pyramid in modern times, but it would still take a while. Back then I don't doubt it took several decades, yet you expect scientists with a very limited budget (If they had a big budget I'd assume we'd have heard of them) to do it in only 100 days? I'll use some crude math here, but assuming that they had had more time then it would have taken them roughly 11 years to do so, not that long considering the huge size of these things.
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Did you know that the height of the pyramid (481 feet) is almost exactly 1/1,000,000,000 of the distance from the earth to the sun (480.6 billion feet)?
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Did you know that the distance from the Earth to the Sun changes daily? So when is this distance accurate? Besides, surely advanced aliens would use a base 10 system for their math, not the imperial system which leaps all over the place and is next to useless for science
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What about all of that fungi that was found in King Tutu's chamber? Fungi which has never before been seen on earth? What about the Pharaoh's curse?????
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The pharaoh's curse is a myth. The person to first enter the chamber was never hit by it, and several people closely tied in with the discovery were never effected. Once again I'd like to see your sources, but new plant/animal life is being discovered every day, the Pyramids were very out of the world so it doesn't surprise me in the least that a new plant was found there.
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Okay, I believe there are aliens out there, but I don't believe that just because they're aliens they're super smart and they're the answer to all the world's mysteries. There are probably some aliens out there smarter than humans, but there are also probably some a lot more primitive than us as well. Just cause they're from another planet doesn't make them super special and surreal. They're just beings that happened to live on a different hunk of rock out in space. A lot of the stuff that Zelda-EOTH mentioned is either conicidence, or was done using math! And just so you know, the other pharoahs didn't "see the pyramids on Giza and want to make ones of their own" there are lots of pyramids from before then. And there are pyramids that are still in just as good shape as the ones on the Giza plateau, that aren't on the Giza plateau. The bent pyramid was like that when it was first built. It was built on a bad foundation, and the architect had to change the angle of it at the top to relieve the pressure it was putting on the rooms inside. Sorry, if this sounds a little heated. I'm studying Egyptology and can get a bit excited when talking about it.

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I neer knew aliens created the pyraimids. I also heard the alies created my hometown landmark, the St. Louis Arch. The aliens also gave birth to Nelly, who is my hometown rapstar. Also, alines created my favoirte game companies, Sqaure Enix, Nintendo, Sony, and Sega because the Japaness couldn't created those great conpanies, so the need the alines help with their awsome powers.

Seriously, you can't belive those remourr in those stupid magazines and crap like that. There is no such thing as alines or space monster or whatever. Get you head check.
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Architects achieved an accurate pyramid shape by running ropes from the outer corners up to the planned summit, to make sure the stones were positioned correctly. And priests-astronomers helped choose the pyramids' sites and orientations, so that they would be on the appropriate axis in relation to sacred constellations.
This explaines why the pyramid bases are so close to perfect squares.It also explaines why the angle of the pyramids are so close to that of orion's belt.

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Why is it that the great Pyramids of Giza, built in 3,000, are perfect, and still standing as tall as the day they were built? (Aside from the capstone and the polished stones, which were stripped by humans in the building of Cairo) The other Pyramids, which were supposedly built about 500 years later, all have shoddy masonry, and are crumbling down. An example of this is the famous 'bent' pyramid, which started out with the sides being built at one angle, then suddenly shifts in the middle to a shallower angle.
it isn't still perfect because aproximitly 30 feet has fallen off the top since it was first built.and the bent pyramid was made 50 years before the pyramids in Giza.
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The question isn't "Did aliens build the pyramids?" The real question is, are they still there?

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Ha ha, Italian Link and I were talking about this earlier... And I spoke to KnowItAllSister a few days ago...

To tell you the truth, I do believe that Aliens built they pyramids. I always have... And, since Sizzlin wants somethign to go off of, I can Provide the Necesary knowledge for you all to look at....

ALSO, I have this video called "Chariots to the Gods" which explains ALOT of things that would make y