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Old 03-26-2005, 03:58 PM
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More Microsoft Rubbish

Alright, Firefox for my computer won't work anymore. I double click the icon, I try to get into Firefox any way I can, but when I do it puts up the load cursor and instantly it stops loading.

But oh no! Internet Explorer works like a charm!

This is a load of bull. Has anyone experience this yet? I have talked to many people and the same thing has happened to them. I think Microsoft and Bill Gates is pitted up against us. I mean, if they want to do something about the competition, then they should make a better version of IE, but no, they don't let you use anything that isn't from Microsoft.

I'm very mad.

So the point is- what crap has Microsoft pulled on you?
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Old 03-26-2005, 04:01 PM
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My computer does the same thing!! I thought it was just because it hates me!! (It does...the laptop is out to get me!!!) >.>

I dont often have trouble with other Microsoft programs...just IE... but I hate hate hate AIM!! HATE!
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Old 03-26-2005, 04:07 PM
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This has hapened to my mum but not with Firefox,with IE

You should get Firefox 1.7.9 a.k.a 1.7 and then you get IRC chat adress books etc.and you get to surf the web faster than any browser.Basically your firefox might have suffered a virus or trojan.Or try McAfee firewall and check if somehings harmed it,if something ha ban the IP and trace it.
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Old 03-26-2005, 04:26 PM
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What crap has microstupid pulled on me....
Crashes. Endless amounts of crashes. Fatal errors, crashes, programs shutting off without warning, crashes, annoying pop-ups, crashes, telling me my mouse is running low on batteries non-stop with no way to get rid of the message, and of course, windows crashes a lot. Microstupid is a constant source of frustration, and often gives me very powerfull homocidal urges .
In summary, microstupid bad, all else, good.
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Old 03-26-2005, 05:31 PM
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http://channels.lockergnome.com/news...explorer.phtml

^That is what i call top comedy on why you should dumb IE

Read it and find out why....

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Old 03-26-2005, 05:38 PM
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Haha, the IE users win again(haha i'm an IE user)!

Well, I think that's really mean of microsoft. You have the right to choose whichever browser you want. And they don't have the right (at least I dono't think) to force you to use Internet Explorer.

I don't know Microsoft did it though, as Phoenix Vaati said, you might have downloaded a virus that screwed up you're FireFox big time. Have you been using IE lately? If so, thats why. If you've been using FireFox, I suggest redownloading the latest version using IE.
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Old 03-26-2005, 05:44 PM
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Sorry about the length of this but read the end of this activex came in for some reason:

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Originally Posted by Some Microsoft story teller
Since information security is my hobby/job/obsession, this particular topic is near and dear to my heart. Just about everyone reading this has seen computers that have been beaten down with spyware - the evil junk that hijacks IE and renders a system virtually useless. How many times have you been called to a family member’s house to clean up their system? Or had to call your techie friend to come clean yours? It’s often quite awkward - the system slows to a crawl and every other mouse click conjures up some species of perverse, obscene image. What most people don’t realize, however, is that there is a very simple and powerful way to defend your system (and/or the systems of your loved ones) in one fell swoop.

Don’t use Internet Explorer.

What makes other browsers better than IE at protecting vs. spyware and other attacks? Well, it’s simple really - most other browsers don’t make it so easy to install malicious software on your system without you knowing about it. IE makes it relatively trivial through two features called ActiveX and Active Scripting. These technologies were designed specifically for the purpose of giving websites more control over a user’s computer. Unfortunately, as we have seen with exploit after exploit - that’s not always a good thing.

In addition to the spyware issues, IE in general has had a terrible track record when it comes to all types of serious security issues. For years now, it’s seemed like every time you turn around there is a new way to have your computer taken over via Internet Explorer. Put “internet explorer” and “allow an attacker to execute commands” (with the quotes) into Google and you’ll see what I mean.

In IE’s defense, many anti-Microsoft types will claim that it’s not possible to lock down IE at all. This is not true. It is possible — but if and only if you have a fair amount of technical know-how on the subject, and the time to do it. My personal view, however, is that tools such as Internet browsers should not require expertise and configuration time to be able to use them safely.

Standards
This is likely to get me in some hot water with my fellow security enthusiasts, but I find this issue to be of even more concern than that of IE’s security. The Internet works for one simple reason - everything at its core has been built on agreements that bind it together. Whether a computer is connected from California or Sri Lanka, it’s going to speak the same language and obey the same rules - the rules defined by standards. If this weren’t the case there would be no Internet at all. These agreements are forged by a body of people whose goal is nothing short of designing a better and more efficient Internet for everyone. Microsoft, for some odd reason, seems bent on breaking stride with these agreed-upon standards. Case in point: the next time you’re in a bookstore, head over to the technology section and pick up a book on XHTML or CSS. These are two major web standards that deal with how web pages are displayed to users, and within any book on the subjects you will find one common theme:

The absolute worst browser when it comes to supporting the standards is Internet Explorer.

Page after page in these books will reveal features supported in other browsers, but not in IE. Ask yourself why a company would choose not to support standards that benefit everyone? The way I see it, it’s for precisely one of two reasons — either they are unable to, or they don’t want to. Given the fact that they are a multi-billion dollar company (one of the richest on the planet), I can’t help but lean toward the second option. Without going into too much detail (See Longhorn), they have their own plans, and those plans involve implementing their own standard and forcing it upon the world. Call me a geek/hippie, but the idea of a multi-billion dollar corporation snubbing its nose at agreed-upon standards is nothing short of infuriating.

Options

Lucky for us, we have alternatives. The good news is that the alternative browsers are actually as good or better than IE. There are many out there, but in my opinion the Mozilla products are the best. I personally prefer and recommend Mozilla Firefox. Not only does it keep your browsing sessions a lot more secure and spyware-free, but it also supports the standards religiously and has a wide range of powerful features. Arguably the biggest benefit to using a Mozilla-based product is something called tabbed browsing. What this allows you to do is have multiple pages open within a single browser window. Rather than going from window to window in the taskbar, you can simply switch between clearly visible tabs, all within the same view. You can even do this and many other commands via the keyboard if you are into that sort of thing.

Using Firefox will not require any major shift in your daily browsing habits. It’ll import your favorites automatically, and you can benefit from the improved security starting the first time you open it. With the popup blocking enabled, you can breath quite a bit easier when browsing to unknown sites. Attempts to install garbage on your system that could have easily succeeded if you were using IE will simply be ignored by Firefox. Plus, the whole time you’re browsing you’ll know that you are doing your part to keep the soul of the Internet alive by choosing to use a browser whose developers actually care about standards.

Of course, I still use IE. (pause for effect) …it’s how I get my Windows security updates. : Seriously though - Windows Update is a must, and it only works in IE, so that in itself is a good reason to fire up IE once in a while. Aside from Windows Update though, there is still the occasional site that I go to that doesn’t look right in any other browser. Those sites, by the way, are all the more reason to not use IE. They weren’t written according to the standards, and they look bad in any browser other than IE as a result of that fact. Using IE all the time just because the occasional site is designed so poorly as to look like crap in other browsers is utterly bad form. I implore you not to give into this temptation.

Wrapping It Up
So, in closing, I leave you with two thoughts:

Due to the combination of ActiveX, scripting, and its integration with the Windows operating system, Internet Explorer is more vulnerable to attack than many other browsers.
The designers of Internet Explorer have purposely turned their back on the standards designed to benefit the Internet as a whole. They have done this for years, continue to do it today, and appear to have nothing but their own interests at heart.
I ask that you consider these points and pull down a copy of Firefox, Opera, or another alternative browser. Run it for a week and see how it feels. As mentioned above, I personally recommend Firefox due to its excellent development team and large user base. Once you have had some time to get to know your new onramp to the web, I think you’ll find that you’ll wish you had switched sooner. No longer will you have to worry about garbage clogging up your system because of your browser, or having to make a mad rush for a patch every time an IE vulnerability is released.

Finally, and most importantly - spread the word. It’s time now for us to put alternative browsers on the map and let it be known that we are aware of our choices. We need not settle for what we are being fed when there are better, more secure alternatives out there.
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Old 03-26-2005, 05:48 PM
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Nope, never happened to me and I use FF. However, on occasion, when my connection is fine, I get a warning sign that says 'www.google.com cannot be found.' You know good and damn well that Google exists. Why are you preying on us Bill Gates? We don't want porno pop ups, thats all.
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Old 03-26-2005, 05:49 PM
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Do you really think Microsoft would do something like that? As much as I would like to blame them, this does not make them liable.

Windows XP does not control how the internet works. It should not effect how virii get downloaded onto your computer. Do you have an anti-virus, spyware blocker and/or firewall installed? Heck, enable the built-in Firewall (Control Panel -> Classic View: Network Connections -> Right-Click your connection -> Properties -> Advenced Tab -> Check the check box), it's better than nothing.
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Old 03-26-2005, 05:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wizard
Do you really think Microsoft would do something like that? As much as I would like to blame them, this does not make them liable.

Windows XP does not control how the internet works. It should not effect how virii get downloaded onto your computer. Do you have an anti-virus, spyware blocker and/or firewall installed? Heck, enable the built-in Firewall (Control Panel -> Classic View: Network Connections -> Right-Click your connection -> Properties -> Advenced Tab -> Check the check box), it's better than nothing.
XP doesn't but Bill Gates could easily hack into your computer and do that.
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Old 03-26-2005, 05:51 PM
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I use Firefox and I have not expirienced this. But it would not suprise me if Microsoft would pull something like this. They feel threatened by other companies so the have to be panzys and be sneaky like that.
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Old 03-26-2005, 09:32 PM
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Well, you can always use Internet Explorer, with it's new Enhanced Security!



It even blocks Microsoft! That's a step in the right direction.
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Old 03-27-2005, 07:52 AM
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Wow...um...didn't know we were so hated. I haven't had too many problems with IE, but do what you guys want.

Sheesh. So many people hate us now. :\
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Old 03-27-2005, 08:39 AM
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Basically Microsoft craziness has hit GCC so........
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Old 03-27-2005, 05:20 PM
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I'm not sure that everything was right in that long paragraph, but...I have to agree. Internet Explorer is the worst browser out there. It's mainly because of the fact that there's so little user configuration, that basically you'll get nasty stuff (save for if you have a virus-scan, firewall, spyware detector, etc.) whether you like it or not. I should know.
I re-installed my computer more than once. Yup, the whole OS. Not just XP, but 98 too.
How many times, you ask, did I have to format everything just to get rid of some malicious software or other thing? I'll tell you. Six

Not fun.

But I still use XP.
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Old 03-27-2005, 05:31 PM
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