Your "Controversial" Dieting Opinion

If you're trying to eat healthy on a budget cut the bacon right out of there.

Why? Its not so bad if youre only getting one thinger of bacon and dont eat it like all the damn time.

Theres those little packets of stuff you can put in water that make it flavored. (Just beware if theres a lot of sugars in those or not.)

Reading the nutrition facts on food items is a good idea.

As far as healthy foods go I follow a simple rule that has never failed me and makes me feel better. The less processed it is the better.

Fresh vegetables, fruits, meats (fresh cuts of meat preferably grass fed as opposed to cured coldcuts), fish (the more northern the fish the more healthy it is), breads rarely (and when you do have the less processed varieties as opposed to the typical loafs you get at the supermarket) and cheeses (blocks of cheese instead of craft singles, grate your own cheese instead of buying packets of pre-grated stuff). To drink either water or fruit and vegetable juice you made with a juicer.

Some of this stuff is cheaper and some more expensive than its processed counterpart, but in the end it costs about the same as unhealthy food. The only difference is more preparation and better taste.

And yes, I know about the goodcarbs/bad carbs thing. But again, just because they're good carbs doesn't mean you should have a lot of it.

Yeah, you don't need a lot of it. If you eat a potato though then it won't do much harm and those carbs are good for getting you through the day, also if you're working out a bit. The biggest thing is eating the right portions. Going on these low-carb diets is worthless if you don't stick with it keep eating that way for the rest of your life, most of the people that do those diets fail sooner or later.

Guys, I don't want this to turn into a "which diet is better for you/this is healthy and this isn't!" war. Sorry I said anything. But please, let us move on.

I'm only trying to help.

I'll have to disagree with this. My personal experience says otherwise. Also, there are other different reasons as to why fake sugar isn't all that good for you. But the point is that it's not real sugar, and thus no calories or carbs, and thus, in that perspective, it is a step down for me.

Well, I disagree since you had to buy the soda in the first place. If you really wanted to cut down then you just would have bought one. The fact that you needed to buy two I think shows you go through the soda rather quick and then you'll end up wanting to get more! Shouldn't be any excuses! And yeah, there are those other effects to worry about, but still the biggest thing is the craving.

The less processed it is the better.

Yes! Processed food is the devil. It really is best just to stay away from it.

Originally Posted by Zecora

Healthy, they are not. They are full of carbs.

Carbs =/= unhealthy. They're very nutrient dense and full of fiber. Eat them in moderation and you don't have anything to worry about. They're certainly a lot healthier than bacon or soda.

Originally Posted by Zecora

some diet rootbeer and black cherry soda

So you're totally against spuds but you still buy soda. :/

Originally Posted by Zecora

I'll have to disagree with this. My personal experience says otherwise. Also, there are other different reasons as to why fake sugar isn't all that good for you. But the point is that it's not real sugar, and thus no calories or carbs, and thus, in that perspective, it is a step down for me.

Diet soda is still unhealthy. Your body craves the sugar, not the soda. Drink something like juice to wean yourself off of it.

Originally Posted by Elhaym Van Houten

Why? Its not so bad if youre only getting one thinger of bacon and dont eat it like all the damn time.
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Because it doesn't make any sense to complain about how limited your food budget is, just to go and buy something like bacon instead of something a lot healthier and cheaper. Blizz said he was trying to eat healthy on a budget and as a rule that never works out unless you really force yourself to make some changes.



I'm not trying to be a dick, if that's how I'm coming off. It's just that the logic being used here just baffles me and I want to discuss it a little more.

The problem I've always had with low carb diets is once you lose the weight it piles back on once you go back to eating carbs even moderately.

If weight loss is your goal, the only real thing you need to know is calories in<calories out=weight loss.

It's also worth noting that carbs are an important part of an active lifestyle.

I understand why some people prefer carbs and some don't. It just depends on the diet.
As a runner (who eventually will be able to consistantly run 10+ miles again) I NEED carbs. Pasta is always the dinner the night before races.

God damn ♥♥♥♥ing a. I didn't want this thread to turn into a ♥♥♥♥ing diet argument. Can this be locked now please?


EDIT: That, or renamed to "Your 'Controversial' Dieting Opinion".

Erm, if you didn't want discussion about weight loss diets then why'd you start the thread? :p

The topic was more for budgeting.

Ramen used to be 9 cents a piece in 2000, it's closer to 40 cents now because of gas prices.

Move to Agentina where gas is cheaper.

As a more practical solution, trying eating things like potatos, eggs, carrots and such. They're on the cheaper end of food and provide bang for the dollar.

If you're after a short-term diet to lose weight I'd recommend the "cereal diet" which is the fad you've probably seen recently being advertised by Kelloggs on the box but try not to get sucked into their product promotion i.e. bran bars and whatever.

• Start with one average bowl of cereal for breakfast, something wholegrain like bran flakes, shreddies or weetabix and by all means experiment with fruits and plain yoghurt - absolutely no sugars/sweeteners.
  
  
• Follow that with a healthy home-made (can't stress that enough) lunch; pastas/rice, chicken, jacket potato, bacon, ham, fish (try cooked prawns), salad, fruit, vegetables, prawn crackers, soups with plain bread etc (avoid adding sauces and salt and the like).
  
  
• Then another bowl of cereal for tea.
  
  
• All throughout drink plenty of water (try to aim for at least three 300-500ml bottles a day). In addition, black tea/coffee can be had. However, no fruit juices, squashes or fizz etc.
  
  
• Snacks in moderation can be; plain yoghurt, a smoothie, dry crackers, fruit, nuts, dark chocolate (no more than 20g a day) or vegetables etc.

A tip is to never miss a meal because your body will actually "starve" and store fat, also, drinking plenty of water helps prevent overeating.

If you stick to it strict you're looking at losing around two pounds per week but I would not do it anymore than three weeks. This is what I use to help lose a little weight before something like a holiday and it is simple to do on a budget. To add, many supermarket giants can prove expensive for shopping healthy and low-fat foods but farmers' markets or places like Aldi are great for buying in bulk at really affordable prices.

Originally Posted by Papahl

If you're after a short-term diet to lose weight I'd recommend the "cereal diet" which is the fad you've probably seen recently being advertised by Kelloggs on the box but try not to get sucked into their product promotion i.e. bran bars and whatever.

• Start with one average bowl of cereal for breakfast, something wholegrain like bran flakes, shreddies or weetabix and by all means experiment with fruits and plain yoghurt - absolutely no sugars/sweeteners.
  
  
• Follow that with a healthy home-made (can't stress that enough) lunch; pastas/rice, chicken, jacket potato, bacon, ham, fish (try cooked prawns), salad, fruit, vegetables, prawn crackers, soups with plain bread etc (avoid adding sauces and salt and the like).
  
  
• Then another bowl of cereal for tea.
  
  
• All throughout drink plenty of water (try to aim for at least three 300-500ml bottles a day). In addition, black tea/coffee can be had. However, no fruit juices, squashes or fizz etc.
  
  
• Snacks in moderation can be; plain yoghurt, a smoothie, dry crackers, fruit, nuts, dark chocolate (no more than 20g a day) or vegetables etc.

A tip is to never miss a meal because your body will actually "starve" and store fat, also, drinking plenty of water helps prevent overeating.

If you stick to it strict you're looking at losing around two pounds per week but I would not do it anymore than three weeks. This is what I use to help lose a little weight before something like a holiday and it is simple to do on a budget. To add, many supermarket giants can prove expensive for shopping healthy and low-fat foods but farmers' markets or places like Aldi are great for buying in bulk at really affordable prices.

The only thing I have to say to this is no.

Fad diets of ANY kind do not work. Also, the only way your body will "starve" is if you eat too few calories for it to maintain itself. The "miss a meal and your body will store fat" is a myth. The only way your body will store fat is if you either eat too many calories or too little.

Diets are quick fixes that do not work in the long-run, because you end up gaining it back anyway. If someone is serious about losing weight, they make a lifestyle change, not a quick fix. The whole IDEA of a "diet" as we know it doesn't work, because it has to end at some point. You cannot live off cereal and snacks for the rest of your life. I wouldn't even advise it temporarily.

Bottom line, eat healthy, eat what you know nourishes your body the best, don't go on a fad diet for a quick fix.

I'm vegan that is also gluten free and I don't eat rice or processed food, so my choices at the super market are limited! it's a bit more expensive for me cause I buy gluten free products and have yous. I also buy a lot of local things and make a lot of things for myself. I'm not complaining though, I haven't felt this great ever! It's just not a cheap endeavour, so far...

Anyways yeah!

I'm vegan that is also gluten free and I don't eat rice or processed food, so my choices at the super market are limited! it's a bit more expensive for me cause I buy gluten free products and have yous.

I envy you! It's hard sticking with a gluten free diet..I always try, but end up failing.

Originally Posted by Bartimaeus

I'm looking to cut soda pop out of my diet completely. Anyone have some suggestions of cheap, delicious beverages that are healthy?

Water.


Like, water is really refreshing. It may not have the taste, but when you are thirsty and have a glass of cold water, it is like an orgasm in your throat.


Plus it doesn't cost anything at all.

Originally Posted by Anithene

The only thing I have to say to this is no.

Fad diets of ANY kind do not work. Also, the only way your body will "starve" is if you eat too few calories for it to maintain itself. The "miss a meal and your body will store fat" is a myth. The only way your body will store fat is if you either eat too many calories or too little.

Diets are quick fixes that do not work in the long-run, because you end up gaining it back anyway. If someone is serious about losing weight, they make a lifestyle change, not a quick fix. The whole IDEA of a "diet" as we know it doesn't work, because it has to end at some point. You cannot live off cereal and snacks for the rest of your life. I wouldn't even advise it temporarily.

Bottom line, eat healthy, eat what you know nourishes your body the best, don't go on a fad diet for a quick fix.

It does exactly what I use it for (and I have used it long before it became today's fad): To lose pounds quick on a budget by keeping track of what I eat by following a simple plan - two bowls of cereal and a meal, which saves time fannying about shopping and cooking in the kitchen with a busy lifestyle. As I have already said it is short-term and the reason I shared it is because it has worked for me and saved me money.

Also, the only way your body will "starve" is if you eat too few calories for it to maintain itself. The "miss a meal and your body will store fat" is a myth. The only way your body will store fat is if you either eat too many calories or too little.

You "starve" because your body will crave high-fat and high-sugar foods and effectively result in poor nutrition. If you miss a meal you can miss out on essential nutrients and decrease your metabolism hence the "storing fat".

You cannot live off cereal and snacks for the rest of your life. I wouldn't even advise it temporarily.

Bottom line, eat healthy, eat what you know nourishes your body the best, don't go on a fad diet for a quick fix.

Perhaps I misunderstood the topic of this thread but when I'm on this diet it happens to be the most healthiest time for me as I'm paying attention to what I eat without calorie/nutrition watching.

Originally Posted by Divine Might

I envy you! It's hard sticking with a gluten free diet..I always try, but end up failing.

Well, if we wanna be technical, I'm not really any of these things. I'm a cook, so I néed to taste my food before serving it; so I need to test things that have gluten and dairy and other such in them; but outside of my choice for profession, I don't eat things like that! But yeah, it's pretty hard at first. You'd be surprised the amount of things that gluten in them!

some diet rootbeer and black cherry soda

Don't buy these, it'll help save money and it's more healthy. We only give advice as we care

I wrote Notsil and he was happy to change the title of the thread so it would be more relevant to the topic of dieting itself (and not just making a budget for dieting).

So yeah, what are your dieting opinions?

I eat healthy and exercise.


I always found the "gimmick" and "fad" diets to be really silly and altogether ineffective. Right along with starving yourself.