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George W. Bush 45 51.72%
John Kerry 42 48.28%
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Old 07-06-2004, 01:37 PM
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Re: Bush or Kerry?

In Canada, especially in a big city like Toronto, the voter registration people literally go door to door. I was sitting on my computer and a knock on the door and a simple form later - boom, I'm registered.

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No, that isn't true. You merely have to register to vote. You can register as any party, ideology, etc..., or independent. You do not have to register with either of the main parties, and I'm not sure where you got that idea from.
See... why do you have to register with a party, period? (funnily enough I was given that impression by Elections Canada people.) What sense does that make? It's not relevent to the process. If you think so, tell me why.

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For the rest of your comments, I am quite confident in the superiority of a republic to a parliamentary system, so I'll decline to get into that argument.
Oh, come on - let's. Though I don't know precise differences between the systems, so I need to do some research.
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Old 07-06-2004, 02:09 PM
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The margin bby which Kerry wins won't be nearly as razor-thin as most think. Without Enron pouring the dollars into Bush's campaign, he doesn't have much to float on.

Besides, look at ZU's poll. Kerry even doubles Bush's votes in the video game geek demographic.

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Old 07-06-2004, 02:20 PM
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So it's official, Kerry picked Edwards ^^

I think this'll really help draw in voters from the south, and it might help bring in swing states.

plus, John Edwards is one sexy politician :p
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Old 07-06-2004, 02:31 PM
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The margin bby which Kerry wins won't be nearly as razor-thin as most think. Without Enron pouring the dollars into Bush's campaign, he doesn't have much to float on.

Besides, look at ZU's poll. Kerry even doubles Bush's votes in the video game geek demographic.

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Well, since you draw the ZU poll into the equation.. how accurate is it, really?
How many people who voted on the poll will vote in November?
How many are actually old enough to vote?
How many actually care in day to day life?

Oh, and please don't catagorize all of ZU's members. We are all not vdeo game geeks.
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Old 07-06-2004, 03:48 PM
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Exclamation ok for 1 this is one of those banned subjects and 2 no1 knows what they're talking...

no 1knows what tey are takling about. The American economy is based on free-trade not socialism(which candidate is more liberal) Secondly the GDP is the highest it has been in decades. Thirdly, there has been recoird job creation (you see where this is going im saying no more i could site a list of facts far longer than this forum allows if u want to argue over aim or msn)

so if u want to dispute on facts then give evidence, not what ur parents told u to chose my parents aren't in the mainstream parties so my view on the election is somewhat less biased than most of urs
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Old 07-06-2004, 04:02 PM
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Sady - What are we, if not nerds? Besides, I was using the independent thought process of ZU to exemplify Kerry's dominance in the polls. I'm not saying it's a replica of America.

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no 1knows what tey are takling about. The American economy is based on free-trade not socialism(which candidate is more liberal) Secondly the GDP is the highest it has been in decades. Thirdly, there has been recoird job creation (you see where this is going im saying no more i could site a list of facts far longer than this forum allows if u want to argue over aim or msn)

so if u want to dispute on facts then give evidence, not what ur parents told u to chose my parents aren't in the mainstream parties so my view on the election is somewhat less biased than most of urs
Zelink RULES! He's better than ALL of us! Let's all give him the attention and praise he deserves, for lo, a savior has come to ZU!

Seriously, do you want a hug or something? I'd give it to you, but it's not like you presented your thoughts in an organized manner...

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Old 07-06-2004, 04:15 PM
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Is there an American version of Screaming Lord Such (sp?) and the Monster Raving Loonies Party?
Our school common room has a poster with some Bush phrases on. They're very funny. If it's an accurate representation of what he's like all the time, I don't think I'd vote for him!
Who should I vote for, though (if I were old enough) - Labour, Conservative, Lib. Dem., Green party, UKIP or someone else?
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Old 07-06-2004, 04:16 PM
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I voted for Bush........enough said, I dont want to get caught up in all this stuff
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Old 07-06-2004, 04:47 PM
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Uh, Bush.
John Kerry doesnt stand a chance.
Because you think John Kerry doesn't stand a chance you'd vote for Bush? If you voted for him, and so did others, maybe he would. What you said doesn't show a lot of independent thought and responsibility.
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Old 07-06-2004, 05:05 PM
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There are many reasons why I chose Kerry First of all, he is for the union. He has visted many unions on his campaign trip while Bush has not really done anything for the Union. Second of all, he can string words together without babling like 'for the the next 4000 days...4000 hours..."Why would I want a president with stupid phrases like that? Heck, I don't like that Kerry might not combat terroism(Bush does'nt realy try either) but hey he'll create BETTER jobs then the 'recovery' mainly consisting of low-paying, jobs that never really give room for improvement with the worker.
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Old 07-06-2004, 05:31 PM
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Eh, I want Bush back in office.

Kerry:
Can't decide what he believes in.
Makes a big deal of being in the vietnam war with two purple hearts or whatever (showing he's a bloody coward.)
Claims to make medicare availiable to everyone...But doesn't tell us the other tax increase he wants to put.
On that note, wants to put a tax on already expensive gas.
More spending? Better? Dude, we're already in a small recession, and with Bush's plan more and more jobs are being formed.
He uses the "average american" gig to get red-necks.
He uses the war as an excuse to get elected to "lead the people closer to freedom".
Many of his ideas include raising tax money.

(My dad knows more about this in depth but I dun care.)
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Old 07-06-2004, 05:54 PM
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if any1s taken higher level math like algebra II they'd be able to recognize that that pole has like a 50(exagerated)% margin of error or sumthing like that. Also Democrats tend to be younger than Republicans so asking it on a site dominated by teens like us doesn't exactly do much sinse like all/most of the ppl either dont live in the U.S. or are under 18
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Old 07-06-2004, 05:57 PM
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Eh, I want Bush back in office.

Kerry:
Can't decide what he believes in.
Makes a big deal of being in the vietnam war with two purple hearts or whatever (showing he's a bloody coward.)
Claims to make medicare availiable to everyone...But doesn't tell us the other tax increase he wants to put.
On that note, wants to put a tax on already expensive gas.
More spending? Better? Dude, we're already in a small recession, and with Bush's plan more and more jobs are being formed.
He uses the "average american" gig to get red-necks.
He uses the war as an excuse to get elected to "lead the people closer to freedom".
Many of his ideas include raising tax money.

(My dad knows more about this in depth but I dun care.)
EVERYTHING U SAID IS SOOO RIGHT except for the gas part, in europe gas is 5$/euro a gallon, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS SO RIGHT, and that part still kinda is right, its high for us
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Old 07-06-2004, 06:00 PM
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Eh, I want Bush back in office.

Kerry:
Can't decide what he believes in.
Makes a big deal of being in the vietnam war with two purple hearts or whatever (showing he's a bloody coward.)
Claims to make medicare availiable to everyone...But doesn't tell us the other tax increase he wants to put.
On that note, wants to put a tax on already expensive gas.
More spending? Better? Dude, we're already in a small recession, and with Bush's plan more and more jobs are being formed.
He uses the "average american" gig to get red-necks.
He uses the war as an excuse to get elected to "lead the people closer to freedom".
Many of his ideas include raising tax money.

(My dad knows more about this in depth but I dun care.)
1) It's not necessarily a point that he can't decide what he believes in, rather that he's not afraid to change his mind if he sees fit. Bush, on the other hand, has a one-track mind.
2) He doesn't make a big deal about being in the Vietnam War, other people do. However, serving in Vietnam as an officer is much more prestigious and honorable than being AWOL from the National Guard like a certain somebody. So what if he got Purple Hearts and not a more prestigious award? You should be ashamed to call him a coward. What have you ever done? If you have done anything more dangerous than serving in a war, I'll let that comment slide. If not, shut the hell up.
3) Taxes will have to increase for everyone to have Medicare. I have no problem with this. Tax everyone the same percentage of their income and everyone will be all right.
4) I'm sure it's not totally outrageous, though I don't know enough about this proposal.
5) All of these jobs are minimum-wage and suck.
6) My father's from Mississippi, so I'd better not catch you using that term ever again.
7) Don't know about this.
8) Taxes lead to benefits. If you disagree, you're being selfish and greedy. The more taxes there are, depending on what they're for, can improve many things in our society.

Zelink, no poll is 50% inaccurate. Maybe 5% inaccurate. You're making a huge assumption, and it's quite silly. As for the rest of what you said, just read my post. You sound like every other ignorant Republican I've met, and you would no doubt follow Bush to your doom. That's great for you, but don't think you can expect everyone to do the same. As long as you're content with your blind eyes and deaf ears, and it doesn't affect me.
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Old 07-06-2004, 06:03 PM
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if any1s taken higher level math like algebra II they'd be able to recognize that that pole has like a 50(exagerated)% margin of error or sumthing like that.

And anyone who's taken basic English phonics knows that this instance of "poll" is spelled P-O-L-L. You make Algebra 2 sound like SUCH an accomplishment. And, unless don't you think 50% is WAY too much of an exaggerated factor? Polls aren't that inaccurate, buddy. The voting system is basically just that: a poll. I'd think you'd best take Algebra 2 again. Unless I'm mistaken, I"M SOOOOO RIGHT.

**rolls eyes**

EDIT: And Keitaro, did you just say that KERRY attracts rednecks with his "average joe" style?! And Bush DOESN'T?! Are you insane?

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Old 07-06-2004, 06:07 PM
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1) It's not necessarily a point that he can't decide what he believes in, rather that he's not afraid to change his mind if he sees fit. Bush, on the other hand, has a one-track mind.
2) He doesn't make a big deal about being in the Vietnam War, other people do. However, serving in Vietnam as an officer is much more prestigious and honorable than being AWOL from the National Guard like a certain somebody. So what if he got Purple Hearts and not a more prestigious award? You should be ashamed to call him a coward. What have you ever done? If you have done anything more dangerous than serving in a war, I'll let that comment slide. If not, shut the hell up.
3) Taxes will have to increase for everyone to have Medicare. I have no problem with this. Tax everyone the same percentage of their income and everyone will be all right.
4) I'm sure it's not totally outrageous, though I don't know enough about this proposal.
5) All of these jobs are minimum-wage and suck.
6) My father's from Mississippi, so I'd better not catch you using that term ever again.
7) Don't know about this.
8) Taxes lead to benefits. If you disagree, you're being selfish and greedy. The more taxes there are, depending on what they're for, can improve many things in our society.

Zelink, no poll is 50% inaccurate. Maybe 5% inaccurate. You're making a huge assumption, and it's quite silly. As for the rest of what you said, just read my post. You sound like every other ignorant Republican I've met, and you would no doubt follow Bush to your doom. That's great for you, but don't think you can expect everyone to do the same. As long as you're content with your blind eyes and deaf ears, and it doesn't affect me.
U didn't read closely its off by like that much not on by it and margin of errors different than accuracy


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nothing bad against mute but i did kind say exagerated next to 50% and as for use the wrong "pole" lets just say i didn't fall asleep last night(none at all 0 min 0 seconds)
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Old 07-06-2004, 06:18 PM
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I suppose that explains the REST of your atrocious grammer? Or am I supposed to be impressed?

And the world doesn't revolve around bending the truth, there. What if NBC ran a news coverage "John Kerry holds 100% of ALL votes! (exxagerated)". You can't just falsify information.

And apparantly you aren't familiar with my little friend, the Edit button. This is about the third time you've double-posted. Do you need to sit in the corner for a time-out?

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Old 07-06-2004, 06:21 PM
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i did greatly exagerate it but with both side being close to the median and only 34 ppl voting the margin of error is HUGE,


ok i just re-discovered the edit button, i had been going to forrums where u couldn't edit it sorry
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So you're saying that with 34 people voting, the MARGIN is huge? What, do you think they clicked the wrong button?

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Yeah, itseems we have some ignorant people here on the forums who would rather want an actual coward for a president who is a real stuck up on abortion and gay marrage then somebody who bravely fought in Vietnam. They want someone who makes to many linear decisions and then it ends up pointless then someone who thinks rationaly before making decions.
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