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Old 10-05-2009, 08:19 PM
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:23 PM
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^ yea umm there's a reason you exist.

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Old 10-05-2009, 08:26 PM
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:42 PM
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:43 PM
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Re: possible explanations as to why the universe exists

I don't know how the universe was created, but I do know how life was created. I went back in time and jizzed in the primordial ooze.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:19 PM
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Lamesauce.
well at least you're spamming w/ the best of us naow.



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So what about nothingness.

Do you guys think something can be created out of nothingness?

First we have to define nothingness though.

What is the nature of nothing?

interesting pertinent fact:

the number "zero" didn't always exist in maths.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:28 PM
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well at least you're spamming w/ the best of us naow.



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So what about nothingness.

Do you guys think something can be created out of nothingness?

First we have to define nothingness though.

What is the nature of nothing?

interesting pertinent fact:

the number "zero" didn't always exist in maths.
Nothing cannot exist up to the point the human mind can handle, since it is incapable of fathoming eternity. Why, I am a devout catholic.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:52 PM
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Re: possible explanations as to why the universe exists

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even the most adamant skeptic and/or solipsist has trouble logically backing that statement up.

May I throw a quote from Descarte's 10'th meditation at you?

or should I listen more to your thought justifications first?
Well "The Universe" is defines as Follows: the totality of known or supposed objects and phenomena throughout space; the cosmos; macrocosm.

Now we must examine this definition (as is the standard) to determine wither or not it is believable. I shall look at the two most important words. That being "known" and "Totality". By examining these two we can determine if it is believable that the universe does in fact exist.

Firstly I shall deconstruct what we perceive as the world "known" commonly described as "to perceive or understand as fact or truth; to apprehend clearly and with certainty". When it says we must perceive it it means we must use one of our sense to determine weather or not the object in question exists. However if all we have to rely on is our sense one must bring up the point that our sense are far from infallible; other then the obvious point that people are deaf, blind, and without touch, we must also recognize that even those who can experience such things but their experiences differentiate between each other. Issues such as a dog being able to hear better then human, colour blindness and congenital insensitivity to pain. If we can be wrong, or inaccurate about our sense-the very thing we use to determine facts- how can be sure we know anything at all. Though it may be a slippery slope I propose that nothing is known, and in fact is only presumed until proven incorrect. The Uncertainty principle taken to philosophical ends, as it where. So if nothing can be known, then where does that leave the universe that we "Know" exists.

For now we must move on from known, to "Totality" which not give me even half as much trouble as the former. Totality is defined as "the state of being total; entirety." Eternity. Eternity. what is eternity, the ever expanding, the endless. Who among us can in vision eternity, who can describe it? Eternity by very thought is either impossible, and thus cannot exist, or is so far fetched we humans will ever understand it. or know it. Without knowing what Totality means, how can we be sure it means anything. All encompassing only goes so far if one can not encompass it.

So if Known by definition is impossible to know, and totality cannot encompass eternity then the universe -Which must be by definition the known totality- either does not and cannot exist, or is such a crazy idea one must be mad to imagine it existing. Therefore one can assume the universe probably does not exist.




Taadaa? Hopefully that didn't convince anyone as it was purposely mumbo jumbo. Was kinda fun to write though =D
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:38 AM
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Re: possible explanations as to why the universe exists

I will gladly lend to you my knowlege of how the universe was created.

God was just a junior in highschool at the time and he had a science project to do. He didn't put much thought into the project and thought that he could pass no problem so he put the project off for awhile. Three months pass by and God has completely forgotten about the project until his teacher tells the class that there is only a week left for the project. At this point God is starting to freak out and come up with a last minute project. This project to to create a entire universe the size of a marble(compared to him of course) with some type of intelligent life forms in it. The project was obviously rushed and the resulting finished project was us and our universe and due to the fact that the project was rushed there was very little time for the human race to advance so we weren't considerd very intelligent by God"s teacher. God got a D+ on his project.

This is how the universe and the human race came to be. Facinating bit of triva.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:40 AM
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stuffstuffstuff ad infinitum...not really infinitum etc....


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wow I giggled like a little school girl reading that.

I was actually gonna philosophically deconstruct and reverse-engineer that one until you wrote the last line.



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but yea Descarte's says: I think therefore I am.

So if you can think, then it logically follows that there must be a universe within which abstract thought and self-perception can exist.
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:12 PM
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Re: possible explanations as to why the universe exists

I think therfore I am? But does that not only prove the existance of oneselfs, as we have only proof we think not proof anything else thinks. If by that alone then I guess I am the only one who exists!


Pseudo-Philosophical is fun~


(I should note I kept finding flaws in my own argument about existance, but continued anyway for the lol's xD)
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:20 PM
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Re: possible explanations as to why the universe exists

The universe exists because Chuck Norris lets it.
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:55 PM
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Re: possible explanations as to why the universe exists

In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:20 PM
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Re: possible explanations as to why the universe exists

God farted then the Big Bang took place...lol just kidding.
I believe Big bang happened because there were other galaxies and worlds before ours...how can something explode when theres nothing? i dunno...i am just putting my thoughts.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:46 PM
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Re: possible explanations as to why the universe exists

Let me take you to a place a long, long time ago in a different reality

~Eons Ago~

Mrs. Eve: Alright kids, for your assignment, I want you all to write a story...

God: *Carving a characature into his desk, staring at his teacher fonly, removing her clothes with his mind*

Mrs. Eve: ... you can write about anything you want, the longer the better.

God: !!! *Idea strikes him, causing him to run hoe, jack off to his thoughts and sit at the computer* I have the most awesome idea ever! A story filled with blood, gore, boobs, and explosions. =3 *Gets to work* ... But how to begin... I know, and explosion right at the start! I'll call it the Big Bang to stand for sex. Zing! *Starts writing*

- Over time, God's books bacame best sellers, eventually making him create such masterpeices like 'The Plauge' and 'World War II: Hitler's Wrath'. He still continues to abuse his creation to this day.

(Disclaimer: All in good fun, and not my actual beleifs, jerk-offs. x3)
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:00 PM
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Oh I got a good Chuck Norris joke. What do you get when you combine white dog crap with the red hairs swept from the floor of a run down barber shop?
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:15 PM
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Oh I got a good Chuck Norris joke. What do you get when you combine white dog crap with the red hairs swept from the floor of a run down barber shop?
Chuck Norris?
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:17 PM
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Yea, girls; and unfortunately they are quite real when I wake up.
Yes. . . we're here and we're queer! Every single female on the planet. So whenever you do find one that "comes on to you" just know that she only wants you for your sperm.

We only need that part of boys to procreate, after all *^_^*.

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So what about nothingness.

Do you guys think something can be created out of nothingness?
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Alchemy, for the WIN!!!

No, I really just think that the will of the genetic mind (or the collective unconsious, what ever you perfer to call it) moves things into place for something to be created.

This is also why prayer works. It's not some great movement of god, but the continuous thoughts and pleas that weigh on the collective unconscious to evoke change.

But that's just my humble opinion, just as hole riddled as dear Puck's ^_^. The biggest hole being that, according to what I've said, there would have to have been something existing to think of our existence. . .

In any case, the universe was created by one big cerebral flatulate (yay, brain fart!) that blew a hole in god's master plan.

In short, we are god's plot hole. :3
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:22 PM
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Scoreos.

On the subject of something coming of nothing, as far as I know, it's not possible for matter to spontaneously appear. It had to have always been there.

One theory for the Big Bang involves matter and anti-matter colliding and the amount of matter being slightly larger than the amount of anti-matter. The matter left over would supposedly account for all the matter in the Universe.

And while the Universe is expanding, it's only the expansion of space. From a purely literal stand point, space has no properties, only attributes. So it could, in theory, indefinitely increase.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:22 PM
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No, I really just think that the will of the genetic mind (or the collective unconsious, what ever you perfer to call it) moves things into place for something to be created.

This is also why prayer works. It's not some great movement of god, but the continuous thoughts and pleas that weigh on the collective unconscious to evoke change.

But that's just my humble opinion, just as hole riddled as dear Puck's ^_^. The biggest hole being that, according to what I've said, there would have to have been something existing to think of our existence. . .

In any case, the universe was created by one big cerebral flatulate (yay, brain fart!) that blew a hole in god's master plan.

In short, we are god's plot hole. :3
Actually, the first hole I spotted was when you claimed that prayer works.
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