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Old 07-07-2008, 05:03 PM
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Re: TP Underrated -A rant

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You guys are both wrong. Link's quest was to save the kidnapped children and Ilia. The only reason he went along with Midna was because she promised to help him find them. After they where all saved and Ilia had her memory back he still had to go and finish Zant and Ganon off.
oh yeah, there's that too.

see, this game just seemed to not be able to make up its mind as to WTF the goal was about.

I don't mind some depth and complexity in a plot, but this is rediculous. Oot's plot was quite simple, but it was still engaging. It actually made you FEEL like you were a hero. While playing TP, half the time I had no idea what I was doing or why I was doing it, other than because some ugly imp was leading me by the hand everywhere.

(that's another thing- Midna practically told you what to do every 2 seconds. even the most obvious things, like "wow, look, an eyeball! maybe you whould shoot it!!!" -duh-)
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:28 PM
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Re: TP Underrated -A rant

The main goal is helping Midna, but it doesn't start that way.

They start off very rocky and both have their own seperate reasons for going along with the other, but eventually they come together for a singular goal.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:37 PM
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The main goal is helping Midna, but it doesn't start that way.

They start off very rocky and both have their own seperate reasons for going along with the other, but eventually they come together for a singular goal.
Link doesn't go along with Midna to help her. He does it at first to find his friends and then to stop Zant and Ganon.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:40 PM
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Re: TP Underrated -A rant

Stop nitpicking my posts, I am not going to waste time providing exact details when the people reading know what is meant, if someone hasn't played TP, why are they reading this topic? I don't cater to people who know nothing on the subject of discussion.

It is a fact that they both come together, they are pretty much friends by the half way mark, and they end up even closer by the staff roll.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:47 PM
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Stop nitpicking my posts,
No.

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I am not going to waste time providing exact details when the people reading know what is meant, if someone hasn't played TP, why are they reading this topic? I don't cater to people who know nothing on the subject of discussion.
This entire section of your post is pointless.

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It is a fact that they both come together, they are pretty much friends by the half way mark, and they end up even closer by the staff roll.
I'm not trying to argue that they not are friends. I'm explaining why Midna was not the main focus of Link's adventure.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:47 PM
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Re: TP Underrated -A rant

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Stop nitpicking my posts, I am not going to waste time providing exact details when the people reading know what is meant, if someone hasn't played TP, why are they reading this topic? I don't cater to people who know nothing on the subject of discussion.

It is a fact that they both come together, they are pretty much friends by the half way mark, and they end up even closer by the staff roll.
Yeah, but you see, halfway through the game, the conflict is resolved between Link and Midna.

They then both team up to save Zelda and Hyrule.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:49 PM
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she is the main focus ultimately, Ankiseth.

and yea, you should stop, otherwise it enters the realm of trolling, if you feel the need to attack someone's post, then you really don't have much to add.




You basically repeated what I said Tar, was that your intention?
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:50 PM
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Re: TP Underrated -A rant

Learn to quote please.

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she is the main focus ultimately.

and yea, you should stop, otherwise it enters the realm of trolling, if you feel the need to attack someone's post, then you really don't have much to add.
I have no idea who you are addressing otherwise.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:53 PM
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Re: TP Underrated -A rant

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she is the main focus ultimately, Ankiseth.

and yea, you should stop, otherwise it enters the realm of trolling, if you feel the need to attack someone's post, then you really don't have much to add.




You basically repeated what I said Tar, was that your intention?
My intention was, after Midna and Link resolved their issues, the main goal was rescuing Zelda, and Hyrule. It wasn't to save the twilight princess.... She ain't captured.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:54 PM
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Re: TP Underrated -A rant

Read my post again. TP Underrated -A rant


Yes she did Tar, she was cursed remember?
And her world needed saving, so in the relation that her cause is a part of her, it is the main focus, again I said that I was not delving into exact detail because it's tiresome, and as your and other's posts have demonstrated, you know what I am referring to.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:57 PM
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Re: TP Underrated -A rant

Ok, so why did you say that Zelda wasn't the main goal in the first place???

Unless you mean otherwise. That post was a little vague.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:59 PM
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she is the main focus ultimately, Ankiseth.
No she isn't. The story focuses on Link's adventure to save the Kids and to protect Hyrule from Zant and Ganon. Midna is just there to be the helper character.

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and yea, you should stop, otherwise it enters the realm of trolling, if you feel the need to attack someone's post, then you really don't have much to add.
I'm not attacking your posts and I'm not trolling. I'm simply explaining why Midna was not the main focus of the story.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:03 PM
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But she was.

The kids had jack to do with the ultimate story, they were just a reason for Link to up and go.

In the end it's all about Midna, and saving the two worlds.

Link and Midna's reasons become one in the end, and if you can't see that, it is because you choose not to.

The children get saved early in the story, did you not realize this?
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:17 PM
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But she was.
No she wasn't.

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The kids had jack to do with the ultimate story, they were just a reason for Link to up and go.
Withought them Midna would have had no way to get Link to help her in the begining. They where what started Link's entire adventure.

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In the end it's all about Midna, and saving the two worlds.
No it's not. In the end Link was only trying to defeat Zant and Ganon so they couldn't affect the two worlds anymore. Midna had nothing to do with that.

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Link and Midna's reasons become one in the end, and if you can't see that, it is because you choose not to.
Link wants to save Hyrule while Midna wants to save her world. They both have the same enemies so they team up to take them down. That does not take away from the fact that the main focus of the story was Link trying to save his world and his friends.

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The children get saved early in the story, did you not realize this?
At that point it came down to defeating Zant so he can't spread twilight anymore. No matter what it boils down to defeating the main bad guys so they can't do anything to affect the two worlds anymore.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:19 PM
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Re: TP Underrated -A rant

Tack on in your opinion, so I no longer have a need to address you.

You have your own personal take on the story, that deviates from the intended presentation.

There is nothing that can be said to you. This isn't the place to discuss the personal opinion on the story, can always make a thread for that purpose.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:22 PM
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Tack on in your opinion, so I no longer have a need to address you.

You have your own personal take on the story, that deviates from the intended presentation.

There is nothing that can be said to you. This isn't the place to discuss the personal opinion on the story, can always make a thread for that purpose.
I love how you say my interprentation of the story deviates from the intended purpose with no proof of what the intended purpose was.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:25 PM
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