Old 04-08-2008, 06:20 PM   #1
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Confirmed: The master sword from OOT.....

We know that the master sword from ALTTP was made it by the people of hyrule to try to reppeal the power of the triforce that ganon obtains when he entered into the sacred realm.(obviosly this master sword is a master sword made it for a different propous than the master sword from OOT,a master sword from anoter story, from another chronology).

In OOT we dont know who made the master sword, well, we suposs that the sages made the master sword, because they made the temple of time, but in the game we havent any quote that confirm that thing. Also in TP we know that the oocca too built the temple of time and also the dominion rod, well the oocca should built the temple of time dungeon, te part of the temple that we dont see in OOT. The other part was built by the ancient sages.

I have official information that confirm that the ancient sages built the master sword from OOT, if you have SSBB, you can obtain the sages thropy(ancient sages from TP) in the thropy information we can read that the sages built the master sword.

That confirm that the ancient sages from TP and the ancient sages from OOT are the same sages.
And obviosly confirm that the sages built the master sword from OOT.
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Old 04-08-2008, 06:27 PM   #2
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obviosly this master sword is a master sword made it for a different propous than the master sword from OOT,a master sword from anoter story, from another chronology
OoT is before the timeline split. If the master sword is already in existence in OoT, then it's almost certainly the same master sword. Apparently you don't believe that the timelines link together, but in that case you have no reason to think OoT is linked with TP but not with ALTTP

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I have official information that confirm that the ancient sages built the master sword from OOT, if you have SSBB, you can obtain the sages thropy(ancient sages from TP) in the thropy information we can read that the sages built the master sword.
We're taking brawl as zelda canon now? OK, so does Link fighting Sonic and King Dedede occur in the adult or child timeline?
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We know that the master sword from ALTTP was made it by the people of hyrule to try to reppeal the power of the triforce that ganon obtains when he entered into the sacred realm.(obviosly this master sword is a master sword made it for a different propous than the master sword from OOT,a master sword from anoter story, from another chronology).
Why would they make 2 Master Swords? The Master Sword from ALttP is most certainly the same one from OoT. I see no reason why it wouldn't be.

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In OOT we dont know who made the master sword, well, we suposs that the sages made the master sword, because they made the temple of time, but in the game we havent any quote that confirm that thing. Also in TP we know that the oocca too built the temple of time and also the dominion rod, well the oocca should built the temple of time dungeon, te part of the temple that we dont see in OOT. The other part was built by the ancient sages.
Oh really?
I think not.

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I have official information that confirm that the ancient sages built the master sword from OOT, if you have SSBB, you can obtain the sages thropy(ancient sages from TP) in the thropy information we can read that the sages built the master sword.
That confirm that the ancient sages from TP and the ancient sages from OOT are the same sages.
And obviosly confirm that the sages built the master sword from OOT.[/quote]

Brawl isn't canon.
That means the things Brawl says can't be trusted.
If you look at other trophies, such as Aryll's for example, it says her telescope has turtles on it, when in fact they are seagulls, not turtles.

Also, Brawl claims that the Helmasaur King and Helmaroc King are the same thing...which is obviously not true.

And I KNOW there were other random mistakes...so dont listen to Brawl.


But I will say this: It is true that the MS was created by the sages. But just dont use Brawl as proof


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Old 04-08-2008, 06:42 PM   #4
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There is only one Master Sword. It was made to keep evil out of the Sacred Realm, but after Ganondorf tricks Link into removing the sword in OOT, he gets in anyhow. The Master Sword was then used to keep him in there in OOT. It was indeed made and powered by the sages, which is why in both WW and LTTP, Ganon targets the sages as his way of escaping.
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Smallville Boy, I present you with proof from TP that the sages made the Master Sword:

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There you will find the blade of evil's bane that was crafted by the wisdom of the ancient sages...the Master Sword.
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OoT is before the timeline split. If the master sword is already in existence in OoT, then it's almost certainly the same master sword. Apparently you don't believe that the timelines link together, but in that case you have no reason to think OoT is linked with TP but not with ALTTP
OOT is linked with TP in the moder chronology, dont joke with me.
Obviolsy the diferent timelines(chronologys) can't be linked together. 4 that exist the microchronologys:

-Old chronology: ALTTP-KNS(Kodai no sekiban)-LA-TLOZ-AOL


-Modern crhonology: OOT(Child link ending)-MM-TP
OOT(Adult link ending)-WW-PH


-Fourd sword chronology: MC-FS-FSA


-Oracles chronology:OOS-OOA

We have two diferent master swords,the ALTTP master sword, and the OOT master sowrd, a master swords built to difernt things, and built by diferent persons. In ALTTP the master sword was built when ganyn enter into the sacred realm, teh amster sword was made by the hyrule people to try to reppeal the triforce power that gany obtain. In OOT the master sword was made by the ancient sages to works like the ultimate key to entered into the sacred realm.

See a amster swords from diferent stoys and diferent chronologys


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We're taking brawl as zelda canon now? OK, so does Link fighting Sonic and King Dedede occur in the adult or child timeline?
Don't joke with me, the thropy information is a official information about the characters of the diferent games. The thropy objetive is that the gammers know most about all characters from diferent games, all the thopy information should be supervise by the diferent game developers.
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Smallville Boy, I present you with proof from TP that the sages made the Master Sword:

I don't remmeber that quote, thanks dude! that conffirms that the brawl thropy is a real information.

p.d: but the evidence still tell us that the master sword from ALTTP and the master sword from OOT are diferent master swords, i mean, a swords from diferent storys, from diferent chronologys.
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I don't remmeber that quote, thanks dude! that conffirms that the brawl thropy is a real information.
Now read my post before that one.
Carefully.

I talked about Brawl in that one...
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Now read my post before that one.
Carefully.

I talked about Brawl in that one...
I read it, in the night i go to see the arlyn thropy.
Anyways the information of the sages thropy is true.
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I read it, in the night i go to see the arlyn thropy.
Anyways the information of the sages thropy is true.
Maybe...
But just dont use Brawl as proof. They mix up their information sometimes
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Smallville boy, they aren't two different Master Swords.
The American version of the aLttP manual highly mistranslated that quote. In the American version it said the MS was made after Ganon got the Triforce...in the Japanese version it's said that the MS was made in case someone evil got the Triforce

The Japanese [aka, the correct] manual does not conflict with OoT or TP's stories at all. They are one and the same, and the NoA screwed it up.
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For that reason, the people of Hyrule were told by the gods to make something that would repulse any evil that may kidnap the Triforce: the blade of evil's bane.
They made the sword prior to Ganon getting the Triforce. It was made as a precaution.
The American version distorts that to this:

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Suspecting that Ganon's power was based on the Triforce's magic, the people of Hyrule forged a sword resistant to magic which could repulse even powers granted by the Triforce. This mighty weapon became known as the blade of evil's bane
Changed it to making it sound like it was made AFTER Ganon got the Triforce, and takes out the part about being warned by the gods to make it.

note that a few lines later, NoA screws up again to cover it's tracks:

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The Sages first had to search for the existence of the Master Sword and a hero to use it.
This clearly shows that the MS has been around for a while. They didn't even know where it was at anymore.
But, since the NoA screwed up earlier and said the MS wasn't made till after Ganon got the Triforce, they had to also change the line about the sages searching for the sword.

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As the Seven Wise Men searched for a valiant person to take up the Master Sword
Changed it so that it only says they had to search for a valiant person.

A couple minor text changes, but it completely changes the chronology of events.
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Ok Erimgar The US translate are wrong, the master sword from ALTTP was made it before ganyn take the triforce, but ALTTP and OOT still can't go in the same chronology, the 2 games talk about the hyrule creation, the first invasion over the sacred realm, the master sword creation,etc... and we know that the two storys cant be, mixed cant be linked togheter, how we can merge the same stoy in one stoy, how we can rewriting the same story over other story.? can't happen.
ALTTP and OOT Are very similar storys, but the two storys goes in diferent chronologys, 4 that we have two difernt master swords.

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Interesting but not canon enough for me...
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Ok Erimgar The US translate are wrong, the master sword from ALTTP was made it before ganyn take the triforce, but ALTTP and OOT still can go in the same chronology, the 2 games talk about the hyrule creation, the first invasion over the sacred realm, the master sword creation,etc... and we know that the two storys cant be, mixed cant be linked togheter, how we can merge the same stoy in one stoy, how we can rewriting the same story over other story.? can't happen.
ALTTP and OOT Are very similar storys, but the two storys goes in diferent chronologys, 4 that we have two difernt master swords.
They both talk about the creation, yes, but neither one says that the Creation is recent. Both are referring to the same creation from a long time ago.

The master sword creation stories have no contradictions.

And neither game technically claims that the invasion of the Sacred Realm was the first. OoT appeared like it could be first, and likely is the first Ganondorf invasion, but TP which clearly comes after it says that the Interlopers tried to invade and establish dominion long ago.

In aLttP, it's not said whether it was the first time the Sacred Realm was entered, and the opposite is actually implied. From the backstory and various people in the game, we learn that the Triforce was well known, forgotten about, and then re-discovered by Ganon. It never says it was the first time anyone had entered the Sacred Realm.

There's no contradictions for placing OoT and aLttP in the same chronology. Exactly how/when/where they connect is debatable, but there is zero evidence that they can't be in a timeline together...especially since OoT was specifically developed to connect to aLttP.
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