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Old 10-29-2007, 07:46 PM
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Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

Has anyone ever noticed what the second boss in Twilight Princes looks like other than me?
You know the Goron that was taken over by evil and had to be locked up (I forgot his name). To me he kind of looks like a Balrog, you know from Lord of the Rings? When I saw Link fighting him in the first trailer before the game came out I saw that small piece of film and thought "whoa look at that it's a Balrog" even when I fought him I was thinking in the back of my mind "hey look at that it's a Balrog". I mean he's different from the Balrog in a whole lot of ways like he's not as big and doesn’t posses a huge sword and whip but still once I saw him I thought he looked like a Balrog. I am a pretty big Tolkein fan (I mean I have all the Lord of the Rings directors cuts on DVD). And I'm not mad that Nintendo copied the idea a little bit (they probably didn't know something like that existed before). Anyway...Do think that the second Boss looks a little like a Balrog?
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:50 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

When I first saw the TP trailer I thought the whole game looked a bit LotR-esque what with the 'balrog' as you said, and the trailer included Link on horseback firing an arrow so very Legolas if you as me.

Fyrus was on fire if I remember rightly and the chains could be his version of the balrogs whip so very similar

So yea I agree
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:53 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

Yeah that's pretty much what I've thought ever since the beginning.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

I've never watched Lord of the Rings, so I really wouldn't know, but it's a possibility Nintendo got the idea for his image from a Balrog, whatever that is. It could also be an incredible coincidence, but what are the chances of that?
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:22 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

Fyrus:


Balrog:
>>CLICK<<


Some pictures for reference.

Me? Well, the only similarities I see is the fire, look of the body, and whip/chains.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:25 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

^ yeah they're slightly similar but not a whole lot like each other. plus his legs are to small his heads to big and no wings. plus no horns.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:27 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

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Fyrus:


Balrog:
>>CLICK<<


Some pictures for reference.

Me? Well, the only similarities I see is the fire, look of the body, and whip/chains.
Yeah, the only similarity is the fire :/
However, that might've been inspired by the Balrog, but they could've just as easily come up with that idea on their own.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:53 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

Since I have read the books and seen the movies, I would have to say that they are pretty similar. Lots of fantasy books, movies, and games use lots of ideas that originated from J.R.R. Tolkien.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:24 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

Slight similarites yes:

Covered in flames
Mix of fire and shadow
in mines

Differences aswell:
Balrog has wings
Balrog much bigger
Body shape much different
Balrog ancient, had dwelled in Moria for a long time Fyrus was a couple months tops.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:55 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

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Since I have read the books and seen the movies, I would have to say that they are pretty similar. Lots of fantasy books, movies, and games use lots of ideas that originated from J.R.R. Tolkien.
That is very true most fantasy things you see today came from Tolkein. But then again a lot of things came from Zelda too so I don't blame Nintendo for that little mix up.
I kind of thought most people would be offended by this thread (if I did offend you I didn't mean to it's just they look a-like in different ways).
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:55 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

I'm sure they used LOTR as well as many of fantasy movies, and games for inspiration in design for characters and enemies.
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:23 AM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

I saw a review for the game, where he said it reminded him of LOTR.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:13 AM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

You know, now that I think about it, it does look alot like it. I never really thought about it until now.
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:39 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

Also, looking now, you could say that Armogohma looks like Shelob.

Armoghoma = http://www.zeldauniverse.net/images/.../armogohma.jpg
Shelob = http://www.gollumlives.com/shelob2.jpg (there's probably better pictures out there)

It's probably because they're both big, black spiders really.

But also, Argorok could be mistaken for a Nazgűl Bird (or just Nazgűl whichever you prefer). Again this could be just because they're dark, winged dragon-like creatures.

Argorok = http://www.zeldauniverse.net/images/...rt/argorok.jpg
Nazgűl/Nazgűl Bird = http://www.tuckborough.net/images/fellbeast.jpg
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:01 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

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Also, looking now, you could say that Armogohma looks like Shelob.
It's probably because they're both big, black spiders really.
But also, Argorok could be mistaken for a Nazgűl Bird (or just Nazgűl whichever you prefer). Again this could be just because they're dark, winged dragon-like creatures.
I get what you're saying
I don't really think Armogohma looks like Shelob though there are some major differences such as the fact that Shelob acts more like an animal than an insect plus she doesn’t shoot a beam from the eye on her back (in fact she don’t even have an eye on her back). Armogohma doesn’t really seem like it was taken from Tolkein but still you are right that they show some similarities.
As for Argorok looking like the fell beast the Nazgűl's ride to me there's not much similarity as well. Argorok is a dragon the fell beasts aren’t dragons they don’t breath fire at all so they can’t be dragons, Tolkein never really explained what exactly they were but they’re usually called a prehistoric animal like a dinosaur but I can see how people can get that mixed up (I have before) it’s a simple mistake.
I’m not saying you’re wrong because there are tiny similarities between those 2 monsters with the 2 twilight princes monsters it’s just there’s not much similarities to call it…
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:22 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

Yes, there are similarities. The only diffrences are the size (Balrogs are about 15 feet taller), and the fact that belrogs have wings.

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Old 10-31-2007, 10:41 PM
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Re: Hey is that a...nah it can't be...

Wots Lord of the Rings? Lol J/K. Now thatya think about it... No. Balrogs are big, Have wings, Have horns, Have whips, have a sword, are old, and aren't gorons =P
If you say that fyrus looks like a balrog, you could say in the same way, A burning gorilla looks like a balrog.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:01 PM
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