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Old 10-09-2006, 02:51 PM
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Origin of Rito

Well I was reading the whole "Races" section of the site and noticed a few things... One is that they claim that the Zora evolved into the Rito. No evidence was given for this idea other then the absense of Zora in WindWaker. The flaw in this theory is that Zora are fish and Rito are birds... Now you may say that there are no bird races in Hyrule but look closer. In Zelda 64 the Skullkids have beaks.... Maybe the Rito formed from a uniting of Skullkids?

Think about it or better yet... Go play Majora's Mask and look at the skullkid in most of the memories involving Talti. When you look up at his face sometimes a beak is visible. Is this a good reason to suspect that the only bird race in hyrule did not decend from zora? Anywase who said the Zora had to adapt? They are water creatures... Maybe they just migrated or went somewhere underwater that you can't access.

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Old 10-09-2006, 03:16 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

Actually, If you are more attentive to the Dialog in the windwaker, then you would have noticed this being said by Laruto

"Nothing can stop the flow of time or the passing of generations... but the fate carried within my bloodline endures the raveges of all the years. It survives."
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Old 10-09-2006, 03:31 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

That seems to re-enforce my arguement. Being that the Rito are not new to Hyrule but simpily just out in the open. Skull Kid was of an unidentified race... so maybe he was just a rito and for some reason they went into hiding. Nothing else seems to make sense in my mind.

"But the fate carried within my bloodline endures the raveges of all the years. It survives."
Does that not point to the lack of evolution? Meaning Less change?
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Old 10-09-2006, 03:39 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

no, it identifies the link between Laruto (Zora) and Medli (Ruto)
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Old 10-09-2006, 03:49 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

I think that the Rito lived on Death Mountain or some tall mountain ((Dragon Roost = Death Mountain)) and no one ever noticed because they were so high up. A fish cannot turn into a bird in under a millenium. Because the passage of time between Oot and WW was under 1000 years. Maybe one of the Zora and Rito got married and had kids...It's not impossible >_>
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Old 10-09-2006, 03:55 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

Well you're still forgetting that an Avian race obviously lived in Hyrule during Oot (Again i stress skullkid) so my theory was of him as a rito for so long. His face is hidden but his beak sticks out. Also when he plays the flute (In Oot) it's below the beak (Like how the rito have both beak and mouth) Not to mention.. Nothing explains why the zora would need to adapt to the sky
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Old 10-09-2006, 03:56 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

Wait, I thought the passage was actually thousands of years.
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Old 10-09-2006, 03:56 PM
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In my opinion Ruto are actually an evolution from Zoras, I think this way because, when Laruto tells Link to search for the one that might open the temple (medli). She also says that Medli, has the same instrument as her, and that she is of the same bloodline... and if you think well, it is logical that the old sage of the temple can only be replaced by one of the same bloodline and same race; well, kinda; Ritos are the evolutioned race of Zoras, thats why Laruto asks you to find her descendant (Medli).
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:21 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

but how do you know medli has pure blood? She could just be the result of Crossbreeding
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:24 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

No, in the text of the game somewhere it says 100's of years. So that would mean usually under 1000
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:30 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

By the way, this topic has been discussed befor and after 10+ pages, no final conclussion was made.
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:33 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

But the skullkid has so much more incommon with the rito! And he is so much closer to them evolutionary then the zora who would not even need to adapt since they can obviously swim in the ocean (Majora's mask)
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:35 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

much closer to them, you are just basing that on the fact he has a beak. BLOODLINE Zora sage to Rito sage, no mention of the skullkids in windwaker.
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:39 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

Cause skullkid was one guy... but obviously Rito. Just look at my avi.... you can even see the feathers. Now maybe the two races are related and stemmed from the same race before them but rito and zora lived amongst eachother for a time
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:40 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

If you look closely at some of the Rito (Medli I'm sure of, but possibly the chieftan and others) there is the zora symbol on thier clothing (the symbol throughout zora's domain in OoT). That and the bloodline dialogue seem to point to that the Rito used to be Zoras. There is also a link in how you would get a Zora's Scale in OoT to dive deeper, and that the Rito need a scale from Valoo to gain their wings. If you are doubting this theory because of the short time allowed for evolution, remember how much magic is used in the story. It could be that a deity changed their people.
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:48 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

Support for Zora to Rito evolution:
  • Medli, a Rito is a descendant of Laruto, a Zora
  • The Zora and Medli share the same symbol, the Zora Sapphire:






Support against Zora to Rito evolution:
  • There are Zora in other games that supposedly takes place after TWW. Did the Zora evolve into the Rito, then back into Zoras? Did some Zoras evolve into Rito, while some remained Zoras?
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Old 10-09-2006, 04:52 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

A lot of everything that fans identify as canon is purely theory.
So far, Zelda Stuff Guy has the most overused, yet plausible theory.


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Old 10-09-2006, 05:40 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

Personally the one thing I find really confusing about the Rito-Zora relationship is the Grappling Hook. The Grappling Hook is said (by Medli) to have been used by the Rito before they could fly. If it was done by magic, it would have been instantanious, and then the Rito wouldn't have needed it....

And yes I do know I just contradicted my earlier point.
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Old 10-09-2006, 06:59 PM
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Re: Origin of Rito

But could it be possible for the Rito and the Zora to have a common ancester but that's it? Like one race evolved into both others therefor they would share the same blood but from a different branch
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Old 10-09-2006, 07:34 PM
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