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Old 06-04-2006, 06:37 AM
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Lightbulb Twilght Realm Theory (I Don't think i've Seen Anyone Else With This Idea)

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The 'new' images of the twilight realm in a kinda blurred colour is actually a zection of the black and white twilight we used to know that has been slightly restored back to its normal coloured self.
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:46 AM
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Re: Twilght Realm Theory (I Don't think i've Seen Anyone Else With This Idea)

That would spin me out totally....but now you've put the idea in my head so if it happens...well the impact wont be as huge, it's definatly a possibalty.
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:55 AM
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Re: Twilght Realm Theory (I Don't think i've Seen Anyone Else With This Idea)

Heh, nope. Gamespot and IGN have both confirmed that the twilight realm is now entirely in colour, albeit very vivid and odd colour.

Edit: Ah, I see what you meant. I thought you were saying that after Link saved part of it it turned back into colour, what you mean is that all of it has been coloured, which is correct.
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Old 06-04-2006, 05:57 PM
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Re: Twilght Realm Theory (I Don't think i've Seen Anyone Else With This Idea)

That's actually a really neat theory, but just that. Check in some screenshots to see if there's any proof behind that.
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:05 PM
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Re: Twilght Realm Theory (I Don't think i've Seen Anyone Else With This Idea)

Interesting idea, but I don't think so. The Twilight Realm was far too bland before. Now that I look at older screenshots of the Twilight Realm, they aren't very good. The oversaturated colors and blurry lighting effects add a lot more mystery to the Twilight Realm. It's more like, well, twilight. My theory is that the Imprisoning War takes place during Twilight Princess. See, evil power was flowing from the Sacred Realm, and it appears that is happening in the trailers and images that we've seen so far. There's definately enough landmass for a war to take place, and we've definately got the combat system worked out.
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:35 PM
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Interesting idea, but I don't think so. The Twilight Realm was far too bland before. Now that I look at older screenshots of the Twilight Realm, they aren't very good. The oversaturated colors and blurry lighting effects add a lot more mystery to the Twilight Realm. It's more like, well, twilight. My theory is that the Imprisoning War takes place during Twilight Princess. See, evil power was flowing from the Sacred Realm, and it appears that is happening in the trailers and images that we've seen so far. There's definately enough landmass for a war to take place, and we've definately got the combat system worked out.
It's been all but stated outright that OoT is the imprisoning war.

Also, I dunno if I like the over saturated colours, the old TR (Twilight Realm) was bland, but at the same time, it had a kind of mystery about it, now it just looks enigmatic. On top of which, I dunno where you live, but twilight tends to be marked by dark, pale greys, blues and blacks, not vivid oranges, yellows, and greens, as the new TR seems to have .
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:41 PM
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It's been all but stated outright that OoT is the imprisoning war.
No, it isn't. I don't care what magazine said it, I don't care if Miyamoto said it himself, OoT is not the Imprisoning War. The Imprisoning War was fought long after Ganondorf claimed the Triforce. Also, it was the Seven Wise Men who repaired the seal. Not the Seven Sages. The Seven Sages created the first seal, and the Seven Wise Men repaired the seal many years later. Look it up in the SNES ALttP manual.
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Old 06-04-2006, 06:48 PM
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No, it isn't. I don't care what magazine said it, I don't care if Miyamoto said it himself, OoT is not the Imprisoning War. The Imprisoning War was fought long after Ganondorf claimed the Triforce. Also, it was the Seven Wise Men who repaired the seal. Not the Seven Sages. The Seven Sages created the first seal, and the Seven Wise Men repaired the seal many years later. Look it up in the SNES ALttP manual.
I really don't want to get into a Timeline/translation debate. Let me just say that I used to thrash this stuff out all the time, and it's a inescapable conclusion that OoT is supposed to be the Imprisoning War, you have the leader of the Gerudo Thieves seizing the Triforce, corrupting the land, being sealed away by seven sages (It was changed to sages in the GBA update to aLttP, which is considered to be better Cannon then the SNES version.) etc. etc. etc.

Anyways, this is going to derail the topic, so let's drop it for now.
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Old 06-04-2006, 08:41 PM
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Re: Twilght Realm Theory (I Don't think i've Seen Anyone Else With This Idea)

Ah, your post is a little confusing =P. Are you saying that the black and white twilight we saw at 2005 is just an area of the twilight?

I suppose it is possible. Although, I would hate if a majority of the game is like that. I'd much rather see color, but in a dark way (if that makes any sense). Bland colors like black and white (and gray?) just seem cliché. A world can still look dark, and have color.

Although, there's nothing wrong with a couple of bland spots here and there.
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Old 06-04-2006, 08:48 PM
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Ah, your post is a little confusing =P. Are you saying that the black and white twilight we saw at 2005 is just an area of the twilight?

I suppose it is possible. Although, I would hate if a majority of the game is like that. I'd much rather see color, but in a dark way (if that makes any sense). Bland colors like black and white (and gray?) just seem cliché. A world can still look dark, and have color.

Although, there's nothing wrong with a couple of bland spots here and there.
I'm still not sure what he was saying, but it has been confirmed that all of the Twilight Realm will now be in colour, albeit very odd colour.
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Old 06-04-2006, 10:19 PM
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The Imprisoning War was fought long after Ganondorf claimed the Triforce.
When someone else tried to claim the Golden Power, that he still possessed? How incredibly logical. The Imprisoning War had to have been fought at a point in the timeline when Ganondorf didn't have the Triforce of Power, by your logic. Because how else could people be fighting over the Golden Power, when he still holds the most important piece?

From what we've seen, only Ocarina and possibly Twilight Princess can possibly be the Imprisoning War. Most likely Ocarina, since there's actually a "war" and there's actually some "imprisoning." It's either the war before OoT begins, or during the Seven Lost Years. Or it's in WW. However that works.
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:04 PM
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Re: Twilght Realm Theory (I Don't think i've Seen Anyone Else With This Idea)

Yeah, i agree, the war most likely took place during the 7 years link was taking his power nap....too bad there wasnt sophosticated enough technology to program a segment large or epic enough to possibly give a dramatic feel for a war...oh well i still have high hopes for call of duty: zelda.
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Old 06-05-2006, 05:39 AM
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Re: Twilght Realm Theory (I Don't think i've Seen Anyone Else With This Idea)

Didn't the developers say that the black and white was too depressing? To the point where they did not want to play the scenes in the twilight so they changed it to the dream-like colors?
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Old 06-05-2006, 11:19 AM
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When someone else tried to claim the Golden Power, that he still possessed? How incredibly logical. The Imprisoning War had to have been fought at a point in the timeline when Ganondorf didn't have the Triforce of Power, by your logic. Because how else could people be fighting over the Golden Power, when he still holds the most important piece?
I hate to also get into this discussion, I agree we should drop it, but I really cant do that.

You are infact incorrect with that there cant be any other games with this War than OoT, it IS possible that M of aLttP is right. Ganondorf lost his part in *spoiler* TWW, remember? And many think that aLttP is faaaaar later in the series, mostly becouse they say thinks like "And the master sword will rest there forever"(or something) and that they say: "Long ago the Hyrulians lived in Hyrule..." etc.
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Old 06-05-2006, 02:52 PM
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I hate to also get into this discussion, I agree we should drop it, but I really cant do that.

You are infact incorrect with that there cant be any other games with this War than OoT, it IS possible that M of aLttP is right. Ganondorf lost his part in *spoiler* TWW, remember? And many think that aLttP is faaaaar later in the series, mostly becouse they say thinks like "And the master sword will rest there forever"(or something) and that they say: "Long ago the Hyrulians lived in Hyrule..." etc.
None of the other games even come close to showing the events in the imprisoning war, OoT shows many of them, with a few small changes here and there for gameplay purposes.
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:05 PM
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I really don't want to get into a Timeline/translation debate. Let me just say that I used to thrash this stuff out all the time, and it's a inescapable conclusion that OoT is supposed to be the Imprisoning War, you have the leader of the Gerudo Thieves seizing the Triforce, corrupting the land, being sealed away by seven sages (It was changed to sages in the GBA update to aLttP, which is considered to be better Cannon then the SNES version.) etc. etc. etc.

Anyways, this is going to derail the topic, so let's drop it for now.
I don't care what has been said or done. I am saying that Nintendo's games have evidence supporting my claims and that the games are more canon than an interview with Miyamoto or Aonuma. Oh, and the SNES version is actually the more canonnical version. In fact, the Super Famicom version is the most canonnical version, but we all go by the US version of it. Just because most Zelda fans weren't around for the SNES version doesn't mean that the GBA version is more canonnical. It's a disgrace with what they did to the story in that game.
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When someone else tried to claim the Golden Power, that he still possessed? How incredibly logical. The Imprisoning War had to have been fought at a point in the timeline when Ganondorf didn't have the Triforce of Power, by your logic. Because how else could people be fighting over the Golden Power, when he still holds the most important piece?

From what we've seen, only Ocarina and possibly Twilight Princess can possibly be the Imprisoning War. Most likely Ocarina, since there's actually a "war" and there's actually some "imprisoning." It's either the war before OoT begins, or during the Seven Lost Years. Or it's in WW. However that works.
And who are you to question my logic? Alright, since I'll obviously have to give quotes and such from the SNES manual, I'll have to take some time to print out some scans of it. I'll be back to argue my point here soon.
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