Wondering About Flooding

I was thinking about Wind Waker and the flood that made it into the Great Sea, etc. etc., when I had a very interesting thought.

As we all know, Termina is supposidly the "parallel universe" of Hyrule, with many things being the same.

This brings me to my thought. If Hyrule is flooded, and Termina is parallel to Hyrule, would Termina also be flooded?

I know this is kind of abstract, but thoughts anyone?

Not sure really. But from what I can tell, the worlds are parallel, yes. But events aren't. In fact, the events concerning the two worlds aren't similar at all. The world and people in Termina are parallel, but not the events.

I always thought of Termina as a "Hyrule without the Triforce".
Since there's no triforce, most of the problems of "real" Hyrule can't happen in Termina.

Originally Posted by Ize

I always thought of Termina as a "Hyrule without the Triforce".
Since there's no triforce, most of the problems of "real" Hyrule can't happen in Termina.

Well that is not totaly so because the ancient ruins of Ikana have depicted images of the Triforce on pillars and underneath the floating platforms in Stone Tower. The triforce exists in Termina. I never really believed in Termina being a Parallel Dimension. Nintendo just used that as an cheap excuse for all the double imaging of characters used in OoT. But since Nintendo said so, I guess it is a Parallel world, but with some major flaws.

Originally Posted by Zelda_Stuff_Guy

I was thinking about Wind Waker and the flood that made it into the Great Sea, etc. etc., when I had a very interesting thought.

As we all know, Termina is supposidly the "parallel universe" of Hyrule, with many things being the same.

This brings me to my thought. If Hyrule is flooded, and Termina is parallel to Hyrule, would Termina also be flooded?

I know this is kind of abstract, but thoughts anyone?

To tell you the truth, I simply don't get Termina at all. For all I know, it doesn't even exist as a real place. See the "Is Termina Real?" thread:
Is Termina Real?

Termina is the Matrix of Zelda. You can't tell if its real or not. If it is real, and the flood did hit Hyrule, perhaps it avoided Termina altoghether. The Terminains could have only got some scattered showers and high winds while Hyrule was just plain inundated.

Originally Posted by Mangione

If it is real, and the flood did hit Hyrule, perhaps it avoided Termina altoghether. The Terminains could have only got some scattered showers and high winds while Hyrule was just plain inundated.

If Termina does lie in the same world as Hyrule, on real terms rather than what Nintendo says, then you could be right about Termina not flooding along with Hyrule. In fact since you support my timeline, you can also observe that their are other lands that inhabit civilizations of Zora's and Gorns rather than just in Hyrule. So there are place other than Hyrule for these races to still exist in colonies uneffected during the ages of the Great Sea. Their are other lands out their you know. Even the Salesmen on Windfall Island gives off proof that he comes from a distant land. He says it himself.

Hmmm... I recall a quote from WW talking about the Gyorgs being offspring descendants of a guardian Gyorg in a far off sea... Hmmm, maybe Termina is not a parallel world after all.

^Can you get that quote? Because that would prove pretty definitively that Termina is in the same "dimension" as Hyrule, and that they're just separated by distance or mountains or forest or something un-magical.

Originally Posted by Klew

^Can you get that quote? Because that would prove pretty definitively that Termina is in the same "dimension" as Hyrule, and that they're just separated by distance or mountains or forest or something un-magical.

Here is the quote I found somewhere in the game. ZU uses the same reference as well.

These menacing fish are said to be a descendant of a great fish god that ruled a sacred temple. Although they swim under the water, they are known to spring up and glide through the air in order to attack. Use your bow and arrow to eliminate these foes quickly, even your Boomerang will provide a good attack to defeat them.

This actually is from the official WW study guide if you really want to check for yourself or if you dont have one just find it on the internet somewhere.

One could argue that your quote proves that Termina was affected by the flood, even if on the same dimensional plane as Hyrule, because the gyorgs would have to have a way to swim there, and also there would have to be some pretty high mountains to stop that quantity of water.

Well i guess you have to think about the logic to these things. I say it is flooded, Hyrule isnt in any sort of ditch, well at least i dont think it did...There may of been somesort of mountain range going all the way around hyrule and it formed a bowl like structure, kinda like what happend on ice age 2. But it rained instead of flowed, if that makes any sense at all.

So actually i change my vote to 50/50

Parallel means that they "go" together along without actually "touching" each other. So it doesn't matter if Hyrule was flooded because Termina is an independent world.

LOZ Historian, remember those are the only places you will find something resembling the Triforce marks. They could be interpreted as something else of course. I always wondered too, but it's hard to tell since absolutely nobody in Termina mentions a bit about a Triforce or something resembling to it.

I thought parallel meant that two things are the same. If this is the case, then Termina being parallel tp Hyrule makes much more sense. I myself believe that Termina is in an alternate dimension. If Termina is the double of Hyrule, but everything is basically opposite, then there would of been no great flood, but perhaps a great drought in Termina?

A great drought it Termina? That's an interesting idea. If the worlds are parallels, but also opposites, then it would make sense that Termina dries up.

However, what could spurr it? I mean, are the gods in Termina the same as Hyrule? Would the same gods that flood Hyrule also do the opposite for Termina for some inexplicable reason? After all, there's no explanation for any kind of evil that had to be sealed off in Termina. No castle's had to be protected. Link took care of whatever evil presence was there in MM.

Originally Posted by Mangione

To tell you the truth, I simply don't get Termina at all. For all I know, it doesn't even exist as a real place. See the "Is Termina Real?" thread:
Is Termina Real?

Termina is the Matrix of Zelda. You can't tell if its real or not. If it is real, and the flood did hit Hyrule, perhaps it avoided Termina altoghether. The Terminains could have only got some scattered showers and high winds while Hyrule was just plain inundated.

if Termina is not real how did the Happy Mask Sales man get there, or Link for that matter? what about the Skull kid and his 2 fairies get there?

just a question

It isn't a parallel world as in "what happens here happens there." It's parallel in that it carries many of the same species (Zora, Goron, Gerudo, etc.) that exist in Hyrule. I think the whole "parallel world" idea is bogus, and that it was just used as an excuse to use the same character models from OoT. Just look at it as if the characters DON'T look the same, and it's just another place with the races from Hyrule.

well, that would make sense i guess. i don't have anything to prove it with other then what you said but i must add that there isn't really everything opposite or the same. there is no temple really called the fire temple, or it could be the water temple to be the opposite. so termina is not completly parallel, i'm not sure about the flooding now.

Originally Posted by LOZ Historian

Hmmm... I recall a quote from WW talking about the Gyorgs being offspring descendants of a guardian Gyorg in a far off sea... Hmmm, maybe Termina is not a parallel world after all.

OOH, it's that CATFISH again!??!?

Will he give me no end of trouble? First he tries to eat me alive in MM, and now it's trying to dismantle my theories on Terminan physics!!!! That does it! I swear by the Triforce Im gonna filet that fish!

Ok, now Im just ranting. But seriously, Im im in Termina, heading to the Water Temple right now.

DIE GYORG, DIE!!!

Originally Posted by The CronoLink

LOZ Historian, remember those are the only places you will find something resembling the Triforce marks. They could be interpreted as something else of course. I always wondered too, but it's hard to tell since absolutely nobody in Termina mentions a bit about a Triforce or something resembling to it.

I don't know about that my friend. If we are dealing with a true parallel world, then maybe this world has parallel goddesses to those of Hyrule, much like the characters in MM resembling those in OoT.

Originally Posted by LionHarted

It isn't a parallel world as in "what happens here happens there." It's parallel in that it carries many of the same species (Zora, Goron, Gerudo, etc.) that exist in Hyrule. I think the whole "parallel world" idea is bogus, and that it was just used as an excuse to use the same character models from OoT. Just look at it as if the characters DON'T look the same, and it's just another place with the races from Hyrule.

Your the man. The whole thing is bogus. Nintendo never should have made a game revolving around time traveling and multi dimensional traveling. It just confuses the hell out of people that think to hard on trying to explain matters that are not worth talking about. Nintendo F'ed up basically. They used the term parallel world in the story plot to make up for being cheap in recycling ol