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Old 04-25-2006, 04:10 PM
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Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

I know most people assume that the King of Hyrule died in the end.... but remember, in the very end (after the credits), Link sailed off on the King of Red Lions... and that's the King of Hyrule, right? So there's no way that the king died in the end.

Also, isn't the King's Triforce wish dependant on if he's still alive? I thought the wish only lasts during the person's lifetime?
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Old 04-25-2006, 04:14 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

Well if you look closely, the boat's eyes are closed. Meaning it's lifeless. And I don't remember reading anywhere that a wish from the Triforce only takes affect during the life of the person who made the wish. You saw the King be washed away under the ocean, right? I think Nintendo purposely made it so that it isn't defiant if the King died or not. It is possible he is still alive, but maybe the new Zelda DS game, Phantom Hourglass will answer that question. I mean we saw Ganondorf be washed away under the ocean also, right? Doesn't that mean he's dead too?
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Old 04-25-2006, 04:19 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

Thanks for the tip about his eyes. I'll have to watch the ending again cuz I didn't notice that
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Old 04-25-2006, 04:29 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

The king couldn't of died at the end of tww because he was a ghost. Remember the second time you go down to Hyrule and you meet the king. He teleports to the stairs and then he teleprorts two more times.
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Old 04-25-2006, 04:40 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

The King of Hyrule is really a waundering spirit if you think about it. I think once he is done with his unfinished buisness, he crosses over.
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:21 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

He can't be a ghost or spirit because he touched the Triforce and, in order to do that, you must have some physical presence. Also, you see his arm fall lifeless under water, not dissapear. This must mean he died. Fruthemore, Zelda said "You could come with us." Obviously if he was a ghost or spirit, she'd know by now and he wouldn't be able to go with them.
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:49 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

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He can't be a ghost or spirit because he touched the Triforce and, in order to do that, you must have some physical presence. Also, you see his arm fall lifeless under water, not dissapear. This must mean he died. Fruthemore, Zelda said "You could come with us." Obviously if he was a ghost or spirit, she'd know by now and he wouldn't be able to go with them.
Ah but you forget the legend of the Triforce in ALttP. It says that the Triforce will stay with its obtainer as long as the person lives. The Triforce split up at the end of WW... because the King was not quite exactly all living. And if the Triforce legend holds true universally as it should throughout Hyrule's History, this proves that the King was not quite a living being. He was a spirit.
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:59 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

But how do we know the king had the Triforce in the first place? And how did he touch it? I don't remember it saying that the king had the Triforce before Hyrule flooded. It said the Goddesses flooded it. This just makes more snece to me. Also, Ganon was locked away and did not die, so why don't the same principles hold true for the king?
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Old 04-25-2006, 07:28 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

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Ah but you forget the legend of the Triforce in ALttP. It says that the Triforce will stay with its obtainer as long as the person lives. The Triforce split up at the end of WW... because the King was not quite exactly all living. And if the Triforce legend holds true universally as it should throughout Hyrule's History, this proves that the King was not quite a living being. He was a spirit.
When it sayed triforce I'm pretty sure it meant the single pieces like wisdom, courage and power.
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Old 04-25-2006, 07:33 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

Yes and besides if he was not in fact living, and the Triforce legend is true, he couldn't make a wish.
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Old 04-25-2006, 07:40 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

About Ganon, How can you be alive after being stabbed in the head with a big pointy sharp sword!? It would be pretty hard to live through that

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Old 04-25-2006, 08:14 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

I'm not sure if anyone has said this yet, but did you notice that KoRT had his eyes closed when they set?
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

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But how do we know the king had the Triforce in the first place? And how did he touch it? I don't remember it saying that the king had the Triforce before Hyrule flooded. It said the Goddesses flooded it. This just makes more snece to me. Also, Ganon was locked away and did not die, so why don't the same principles hold true for the king?
I was not implying he had it before the great flood of long ago. I'm saying that he obtained the triforce briefly and it left him afterwards because he was not quite all living. What is their not to understand? Are you denying a hard fact of the Triforce Legend from ALttP. The Triforce will only stay with the obtainer as long as the person lives. That goes for Triforce Pieces as well obviously.

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Yes and besides if he was not in fact living, and the Triforce legend is true, he couldn't make a wish.
Yes he could make a wish. The King of Hyrule was bound to Hyrule in a living state but out of Hyrule he is a spirit. When Hyrule does not exist, he will not exist being that his bond with Hyrule will be destroyed after the wish. Basically he will then be truelly dead and be able to pass over.
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:18 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

Oops, guess someone said it. Sorry! 8-/
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Old 04-25-2006, 09:07 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

Ok LOZ Historian I see now what yuo're saying. I guess I misunderstood. I thought you meant he was a spirit even in Hyrule when it did exist, thus not being able to make a wish. So then he did in fact die? Or he just passed over? Anyway I get what you were saying now.
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Old 04-25-2006, 09:38 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

Is LOZ historian ever gunna lose a fight
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

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Maybe. It took me a long time to get my facts straight and make good arguements here at the ZU community. In time and experience one can only get better, right.

As longe as I don't get any more uneeded heat from Split Timeline Theorist, I don't have to worry about a thing. i don't want anything to do with them or their timeline theory. And I'm not bias... they just have a different way of theorising than Linear Timeline Theorists. Now off I go.
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Old 04-25-2006, 10:08 PM
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

Oh, so you're saying that my theory of the King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule's "wish to die with Hyrule" has no credibility, or did you just think up a slightly different version?
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Re: Did the King of Hyrule die in WW?

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Oh, so you're saying that my theory of the King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule's "wish to die with Hyrule" has no credibility, or did you just think up a slightly different version?
Oh. I'm sorry. I did not recognize your ideas. Oops, I should have read it. But my idea was like the King of Hyrule was some sort of being that was half living half dead. Sort of like a phantom. That way when he posseses form in the above world he is a spirit controling himself in a boat. But in Hyrule he is bond to his living form once time down their is started again. But I guess my stand point on the matter enforced it for the both of us eh. Cheers to us then!
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