The TP ending: Flood and New Hyrule?

I put this in the "General Zelda" section because it relates to The Wind Waker as well.

We know from The Wind Waker's opening sequence that the Great Hero never showed up to fight Ganondorf, according to the Hylians. But in TP,

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much of the game takes place outside of Hyrule.

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This leads me to believe that perhaps Link did stop Ganondorf, but the Hylians who got stuck on the mountaintops/islands just never knew. I've set up a little storyline:

Link, while on his TP quest, discovers that the only way to stop Ganondorf is to have Hyrule flooded, thereby blocking Ganondorf from fully escaping. Din, Farore, and Nayru flood Hyrule, but create another land just like it somewhere else. Link leads the Hylians away from Hyrule, and a New Hyrule is Founded. Some of the Hylians, however, run away to the mountaintops, and become the island people in tWW, believing that the Hero never came.

Think about it; with this ending, tWW's ending clicks into place. You know that the Hero of Winds will discover the New Hyrule, and lead the island people to it.

I'm not saying that it's a particularly phenomenal ending, but it's not nearly as bad as Link just losing at the end, simply for the sake of the timeline. It could be done very well, knowing how dramatic Zelda can be at times.

No. I acually think that what they say at the beggining of WW means that in TP he loses.

Originally Posted by Avila159

No. I acually think that what they say at the beggining of WW means that in TP he loses.

No, they said the hero never came.

Ya and i think in the timeline it comes in between OOT and WW. So that only means that he never came because he lost. That only makes scence.

No one ever said most of TP takes place outside of Hyrule. Yes, Link's journey does "begin" outside of Hyrule in a village, but he has to journey to Hyrule so he can really begin his quest. All the trailers I've seen look like most scenes take place in Hyrule, and Hyrule field. This isn't another Oracle game.

I can't really contradict your theory, because NOTHING is said about TP's ending. So a lot of theories could be taken into place about TP's ending. But I don't think we'll ever find out the ending of TP until TP actually comes out (Nintendo isn't stupid enough to give the ending to a great game).

I agree on the fact it will take place mostly in Hyrule but my theory for the ending is that he loses because it states that the hero never came

Though you do bring in tWW, you are mainly discussing TP, therefore this gets moved to TP Spoilers. Though you aren't really spoiling anything, it may be brought up when more info is released.

And a lot of people think this, actually.

Originally Posted by Dark Link

No one ever said most of TP takes place outside of Hyrule.

Someone from Nintendo said that. Not sure exactly who or when, but he/she did mention that (A)The overworld is about 3 times bigger than OoT's, and (B)Most of the game takes place outside of Hyrule. I believe it was at E3 2005.

Originally Posted by Avila159

I agree on the fact it will take place mostly in Hyrule but my theory for the ending is that he loses because it states that the hero never came

First of all, what kind of ending is that? How horrible would that be? Losing in the end? Shigeru's not that stupid.
Secondly, tWW's prologue clearly never states what happened. Heck, it doesn't even say what happened to the Hylians, or Hyrule at all. The "Legend" is missing a ton of information. You can't just assume that Link lost. Maybe he actually won, but the Mountaintop Hylians never found out.

I think that would be the best. I love when a heroic sacrafic would be the greatest thing that happened.
<My brother came up with these ideas. His user name is Nixionary. So if u see him and you think that this is stupid talk to him.>

just because its 3 times bigger then OoT doesnt mean it takes place outside of Hyrule, it simply means that the lands is bigger.

also the legend says he never showed up, so they left the fate of hyrule in the Godessess hands.

i really doubt TP end is the start of the flood.

Originally Posted by NightWing

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much of the game takes place outside of Hyrule.

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no, actually the mjority of the game does take place in Hyrule, sure there's the twilight realm, but it's the twilight Hyrule. get it strait.

perhaps all the hylians never end up knowing TP Link did his quest. Maybe they all lost their memories...somehow... after Link won, thus this quest was never documented and never "took place".
And that the great flood happens later.

Originally Posted by vapor_trails

perhaps all the hylians never end up knowing TP Link did his quest. Maybe they all lost their memories...somehow... after Link won, thus this quest was never documented and never "took place".
And that the great flood happens later.

That is just not that good <no offense> but that is bad. So explain how they lost there memories. O and then why was Ganon never put in the realm??

perhaps there is this malfunction by the twilight realm after ganon is defeated and banished...again... and time is reversed, like in OoT.
reversed enough so it starts again before ganon came.
OR Zelda, Midna, or a new character undo time...
its happened before

what'd ya say to that?

There's also the matter that "humans can not exist in the Twilight" for some reason. That could imply that only a few people would even know of TP Link's quest to drive back the Twilight, and so his legend would not spread.

Originally Posted by Tre

just because its 3 times bigger then OoT doesnt mean it takes place outside of Hyrule, it simply means that the lands is bigger.

Sorry, I accidentally deleted half a sentence. It's put back now.

Originally Posted by Sailor_Dolly

There's also the matter that "humans can not exist in the Twilight" for some reason. That could imply that only a few people would even know of TP Link's quest to drive back the Twilight, and so his legend would not spread.

Hmm. I don't know about that. Link does meet a fair amount of people in Hyrule, as we can see from the Market screenshot.

I do think it's possible that TP has nothing to do with tWW, but considering that tWW was pretty heavily linked to OoT's storyline, and TP is the "real" sequel to OoT, it will probably at least set the stage for the events of The Great Flood.

Originally Posted by NightWing

Sorry, I accidentally deleted half a sentence. It's put back now.


Hmm. I don't know about that. Link does meet a fair amount of people in Hyrule, as we can see from the Market screenshot.

I do think it's possible that TP has nothing to do with tWW, but considering that tWW was pretty heavily linked to OoT's storyline, and TP is the "real" sequel to OoT, it will probably at least set the stage for the events of The Great Flood.

Agreed. They aren't going to lose there memories, I just think he will lose to Ganon.

maybe the final battle is in the twilight, but while they are fighting, the three godesses seal off hyrule with the flood. The people of hyrule could just believe that gannondorf is causing the flood, not knowing that the flood is actually a measure to save their lives.

Link defeats the twilight in the twilight, but is sealed there by the flood, making it look as if he never showed up.

Nintendo could get very deep with this, but I dont think they will.