Shard of the Timeline...

We all know that TP will take place Chronologically speaking Decades after Ocarina of Time and before the WindWaker.
And Eiji Aunoma has revealed that this (Link II) is a new *Incarnation* of the Hero.

Remeber the verse in The WindWaker?, " Surely you are the Hero of Time" so says Ganon. I took a Look at the Shard of Link II's left hand, this was not a full shard, meaning he would be destined to save the vast lands of Hyrule, but then I looked at the end of Ocarina of Time. Two timelines, one based upon the other.
First of all Majora's mask overalls in the 1st time line, the one where Navi disapears and Link places the sword down with NO triforce on his hand.
But then I saw the second TimeLine, the one where Link comes unto Zelda WITH the Triforce shard. Now, Zelda told Link that as long as there is peace in Hyrule we shalt be bound unto one another, meaning there incarnations or desendents.
Now Link II is a carnation and is destined into the shard timeline (WW's as well) and Link was reincarnated from that TimeLine with the shard, HenceForth Link II has the Shard one his hand threw birth because the result of OOT's ending, the new Incarnation is destined to save Hyrule.

um, incarnation...you think they all died and were reborn through another body?

Timetravelling and Timelines, headache approaches!

Basicly I think that there are 2 possibilities.

1: Because Link saved Hyrule and locked-up Ganondorf, the events in which Hyrule was destroyed never took place. Thus Zelda and Link never grew up, but they do have memories of the events that took place so for them it all did happen. Though time excists in the Light Realm, events that change time outside the Realm don't have an effect on the persons in the Realm. That is why Ganondorf stays locked-up. Even if the timeline in Hyrule is alltered. And because Link still has memories of the events that took place.

2: There are 2 timelines that flow next to each other, creating 2 Hyrule's. In one Hyrule lies in ruins and will be built up by grown up Zelda and Link. While in the other a young Link sets out for a friend that has disseapered. Still folowing it? But there is only one Light Realm, so there should only be one Ganondorf but that is impossible as there are 2 Hyrule's in this case. Which makes this theory a bit shaky.

So for me either one timeline is being replaced by an other, or there are 2 dimensions.


Bonus question; If Link was set back 7 years to the point he opened the door, then where has Navi gone to?

Originally Posted by MasteroftheWind

We all know that TP will take place Chronologically speaking Decades after Ocarina of Time and before the WindWaker.
And Eiji Aunoma has revealed that this (Link II) is a new *Incarnation* of the Hero.

MotW may answer this before me, but (in response to post #2 by sheik_master) what EA meant was that there will be a new Link. I'm actually not sure that he uses the exact word "riencarnation".

Remeber the verse in The WindWaker?, " Surely you are the Hero of Time" so says Ganon.

Yes, but if you look at the statment in context, Ganon is saying that WW Link reminds him of or is like The Hero of Time. In any case, lets move on...

I took a look at the Shard of Link II's left hand, this was not a full shard, meaning he would be destined to save the vast lands of Hyrule, but then I looked at the end of Ocarina of Time. Two timelines, one based upon the other.

First of all, Majora's mask overalls in the 1st time line, the one where Navi disapears and Link places the sword down with NO triforce on his hand.

But then I saw the second TimeLine, the one where Link comes unto Zelda WITH the Triforce shard. Now, Zelda told Link that as long as there is peace in Hyrule we shalt be bound unto one another, meaning there incarnations or desendents.
Now Link II is a carnation and is destined into the shard timeline (WW's as well) and Link was reincarnated from that TimeLine with the shard, HenceForth Link II has the Shard one his hand threw birth because the result of OOT's ending, the new Incarnation is destined to save Hyrule.

Alright... where to begin... first off, the Links aren't riencarnations. EA has said specifically that the heroes just "rise up" whenever they are needed.

I am supposing that you are basing you entire theory on your assumption that all of the Links have the same spirit, just different bodies- and because of that -there are continuity issues. As said above, EA and SM have said that the Links aren't riencarnations.

Howver, fate is a large component of the Zelda series. So- for all we know -it could just be that person was destined to have the name Link, and therefore carry on the legacy.

Also, not having riencarnation as a factor solves all of your stated problems.

V (In reponse to below post)

EDIT: Normally, that's what I would assume as well. It's just that MasteroftheWind uses versions of the word "riencarnation" many times in the text and seems to have partialy based his theory around the concept of riencarnation.

But of course, I could be wrong!

I think that he didn't mean LITERAL reincarnations. I think he was using the word as "another version of Link." I could be wrong, but that's what I think he meant.

SJ

Originally Posted by MasteroftheWind

First of all Majora's mask overalls in the 1st time line, the one where Navi disapears and Link places the sword down with NO triforce on his hand.
But then I saw the second TimeLine, the one where Link comes unto Zelda WITH the Triforce shard. Now, Zelda told Link that as long as there is peace in Hyrule we shalt be bound unto one another, meaning there incarnations or desendents.

First off the reason Link does not have the Triforce of Courage on his hand when he puts the Master Sword in the Pedastle is because obviously Ganondorf has not touched the Triforce yet, where the fragments of the Triforce are destined to separate and go into those chosen by destiney. So when Link returns from the future he locks Ganondorf in the Sacred Realm by means of the Master Sword locking the gate when he is still invading it at the time. Thus Link is the Hero of Time in the past as a child by doing this. As time progresses in the past Ganondorf obtains the Triforce still and the Triforce of Courage is instilled into Link. It is by destiney, either way it will happen no matter what alteration Link could possibly make in the past to change the future. Thus the events you speak above co exist in the same timeline in the altered past. There is only one child timeline ending. Not two. However, you can speculate on the physics of how the future OoT ending can still exist, but if you dare... I will be forced to counter it with a massive theory of mine because I believe once you alter the past you alter the future permanently unless you change the past again.

Originally Posted by MasteroftheWind

Now Link II is a carnation and is destined into the shard timeline (WW's as well) and Link was reincarnated from that TimeLine with the shard, HenceForth Link II has the Shard one his hand threw birth because the result of OOT's ending, the new Incarnation is destined to save Hyrule.

Their are no officialy bloodline desendents of the Hero of Time in any game thus so far. You can not make this claim.

Loz historian, Reconsider the theory that Link I has no desendents.
Ganondorf Dragmire has stated, " I will destroy your desendents ".
HenceForth, He has desendents.
Silent Joe, You are correct I did not mean it as literal reincarnations, Link II has to fullfill his destiny of slaying Hyrule, again fate draws him in.

Originally Posted by MasteroftheWind

Loz historian, Reconsider the theory that Link I has no desendents. Ganondorf Dragmire has stated, " I will destroy your desendents ".
HenceForth, He has desendents.

Ganondorf can not preedict the future. He only assumes that the Hero of Time will have descendants and he will destroy them. We have no proof of any other Link in a LoZ that is of the same bloodline as the Hero of Time.

However concider this theory that relates to the reincarnation theory of the Hero of Time being reborn in the since of him being the hero in spirit.

Titled: "The Hero's Coincidentle Attire"

The Hero's Coincidental Attire

Again I go back to the Windwaker, " Those where your ancestors hundreds of years have passed since then".

Originally Posted by MasteroftheWind

Again I go back to the Windwaker, " Those where your ancestors hundreds of years have passed since then".

If you wish to believe that TP Link is "genetic" descendent, then go right ahead. I won't argue your opinion. Yes, Ganondorf said he would destroy the Hero of Times descendents in his plan for revenge. That is why Ganondorf always awaits the destined hero to return when he threatens Hyrule in any LoZ. He believes that every Link he encounters is the Hero of Time reborn like he infers in WW. That is why Ganon is prepelled to dstroy Link in every LoZ, because it reminds him of his first downfall in OoT.

That does not answer why King Daupheus Nohenson Hyrule said, "Those where your Ancestors hundreds of years have passed since then".

Originally Posted by MasteroftheWind

That does not answer why King Daupheus Nohenson Hyrule said, "Those where your Ancestors hundreds of years have passed since then".

I'm not against anything the WW officialy states, OK!!!! I know that the civilization that is located on the mountain tops were of Hylian descent. those ancestors are everyones ancestors that live amoung the Great Sea. What the hell are you opposing?