Don't Hate WW

(possible spoilers)
I have been reading a lot of posts in this forum about how many people dislike the WW. I do agree, that OoT is better than WW, and is possibly still the best video game ever designed, but I really do not think people give the WW the credit it deserves.
First of all, the designers noticeably wanted to add emotion to this game with facial expressions and a deep storyline. Think back to the game...how did you feel when you when underwater for the first time and realized that Hyrule was there. A little tidbit for me, was when I was actually in Hyrule castle and caught a glimpse of the painting of Zelda and her friends....where i was stunned to realize Tetra and Zelda were one of the same. There were a lot of special moments in this game, but people overlook it because they focus on the things they didn't like. Why? WW is not a bad game. Yes there are some things that could have been changed, but Shigeru Miyamoto even said in a past issue of EGM that he made the game the way it is so a large audience can play it. If he focused on just hardcore players, then yes, I think the game would be more difficult. But no, with cel-shaded, colorful graphics, the game will attract children as well as adults, so if the game was easy to us hardcore players then so be it, it was a fun experience. See, I would rather complain about MM, but thats for another day. WW was like watching a movie even Disney couldn't pull off. Yes the ending could have been a bit better, but the story's ending....the end of Hyrule, shows not just the end of an era but a new beginning, where our generation of Zelda is over and a new generation will begin. We grew up with Zelda and Link of Hyrule, and now a new generation of gamers had the chance to witness the end of something special to us, but now await the Zelda of the new generation, which we all won't probably see until the new Nintendo console comes out. Think about it. The WW made me feel like a kid again, it was classic Zelda at its best. And now, with the Grand Theft Autos and Halos of the world, it seems the Zelda franchise needs to be reinvented,
and the end of Hyrule seems like the first step. I am just thankful that I had the chance to experience the WW, it was wonderful, and deserves more credit than people give it. I just look deeper into things, and if you do too, you'll know what I mean. Just wait, when the new Zelda for the next Nintendo console emerges, it won't be what we're used to. It will blow us away. Wind Waker was the end of an era. I was glad to be a part of that era. I hope you agree.

Yes, Hyrule castle was amazing and the statue of Link had me in aw. As for Miyamoto trying to attract all ages, young kids actually don't give a rats ass, and he didn't attract adults, he scared em away. I visited my little cousin Eric, who is 6 years old, and let him play Wind Waker. I let him play MM a few months earlier. As soon as he saw the charcters in WW he said, and I quote, "This is gay!". For the rest of the day he kept asking me why the cool Link went away. Granted it DOES have a good storyline and gameplay but so what? so did OoT. And OoT looked real (at the time) and it was one of the best games ever made.

I love WW! It has the best storyline out of all the games, and Link is cool with the cel-shaded look... Although, not a lot of people like it...:mad:

I really liked the Wind Waker. I thought it was a good game with a good storyline and great graphics. It's one of my favorite titles on the Gamecube.

You have to understand, though, Majora11. The Wind Waker is the most controversial Zelda games ever made. Even more than Adventures of Link!

Never before had the Legend of Zelda series changed so much, not only in graphics, but in setting. Have you seen the rants some of these people write? All I can say is that if you're looking for a good laugh, read some of the anti-WW petitions. They're a riot!

Anyway, back to the point, there were people who hated the Wind Waker before they even played it. I'm not at all surprised that many people are still so biased against it.

To be fair though, most of the people on this forum don't like the Wind Waker simply because of the lack of dungeons, short span, and such, and I can identify with that.

Still, rest assured that there are still plenty of people who like the Wind Waker. Peace out!

Finally, somebody with thoughts matching mine, although I prefer WW over OOT (personally).

Sigh, and again SIGH!

The people don't like it because of the graphics! It's all where the crying starts.
The game is good, but of course, all the little spoiled Zelda fans always find big reasons to complain. Some are fact, some are just whine.

And of one has a mind of a kid, it's not hard to understand why kids and young people don't like it. They're simply stupid! My retarded friend, Joel, has played the game, and is STILL not convinced the game has good graphics.
I said: ''Well, don't you agree? You just have to, I mean everyone agrees after a while, it is good.''

He goes of course and says no, it sucks.

My conclusion is that stupid people won't realize it. You have to grow a brain to understand the great TWW.

For a while I rated WW as the best Zelda game, that was until I started playing OOT and MM. OOT changed my opinion and is now considered by me to be the best Zelda game ever.

Golden Goron is a good person. As for William, don't insult people because they don't like the graphix, we just feel as if Link should be cool and not gay.

Originally posted by HamJob
Golden Goron is a good person. As for William, don't insult people because they don't like the graphix, we just feel as if Link should be cool and not gay.

Wow, such amazing reasoning skills. :rolleyes:

I was extremely dissapointed in tWW. I loved it nontheless, but it could have been so much better.

The graphics were my favorite part of the game.

EDIT: 2900th post.

Yeah, the cell shading was nice but like i said before, the way the characters were designed was very dificult for me to like. Other than that it was a good game.

Those who assume that everyone who hated WW hated it solely because of graphics are just as close-minded as everyone who actually did hate it just because of graphics.
The game came out a while after I had come to accept the graphics; I realized it could be a good, nay, a great, game, despite the fact that the graphics weren't exactly as I visualized it. So I told myself I'd love the game no matter what.
It wouldn't be the first time my hopes were, and would remain, far too high; Donkey Kong 64, Yoshi's Story, all things that seemed ten times worse because of the excellence of their predecessors, and WW is a perfect example.
So let's see what's wrong with the game:

Sea looks like paint. That's a little one so let's not argue about it.
No voice acting. C'mon, ppl, it was said "this will be just like playing a cartoon." Have you ever in your life played a cartoon where what people say is conveyed in boxes of dialogue, or where things are constantly going through other things without shame?(A Moblin sticking his head through my barrel would be a perfect example)
The islands are pathetically small. There's barely any room to walk. One Nintendo Power said "Outset may seem large and imposing, but it's one of the smaller areas in the game." If they weren't too busy sucking up, they'd've remembered to throw in that last part: "...If you're a baby ant!" There's no incentive to visit most of those islands. You sail for a while, play an aggravatingly horrible and unimaginative song on that blasted baton(I wanted to snap that thing in half on numerous occasions), change direction, possibly do it again, and for what? Rupees to pay Tingle on an extremely annoying and unnecessary Triforce quest that could make one question the very point of existence? Pieces of Heart that you don't need considering the only slight bit of challenge in the game is reserved for those who do the entire quest with only the beginning three hearts? Food for your hour-long "Figurine Fever" that dies when you realize the lack of fun it offers? Or is it just the absolute thrill I'm missing of doing nothing for several minutes, arriving at a miniscule walking area, participating in some easy fights with enemies who can each be defeated in one hit by at least one item, solving some 30-second puzzles or doing some other potentially aggravatingly easy tasks?!
Oh, yeah, and then there's the length. And the gaping holes in the plot(how does Ganon keep getting out of places, why doesn't the sea level drop at the end, why does the Tower of the Gods stick out of Hyrule Castle, where are those islands when you look up from Hyrule, why is that warp down to Hyrule only available at certain times when certain completely differing tasks are completed and sometimes no task is required at all, etc.). But mostly the length. Four days and one early morning is all it took to accomplish that impossibly awful ending with the character-face bubbles, title screen music, absence of any kind of celebration or anything to make the player happy in any way...Honestly, the Master Quest was harder. What happened to "If you think the Master Quest dungeons are tough, wait till you tackle the Wind Waker!" I guess I missed their point that the dungeons seem much tougher in the Master Quest after I...um..."tackle" this Wind Waker. Sometimes I want to tackle it and kick its ass. A remake with harder dungeons should not take so much longer than a completely new experience. That's what I call pathetic.

Okay, so graphics(despite small defects, already listed), plot(despite small defects, already listed) and music(despite small defects such as horrible Forsaken Fortress music and the "nuttin' special" dungeon music) are all this game truly had going for it. And some small spurts of fun here and there that were instantly squashed by a reminder of the fact that the game's more linear than Starfox Adventures(don't lie to yourself, you know this to be true! You can't go a square off course on your way to Dragon Roost Island without your party-pooper boat turning you around, despite the fact that every nonsensical precation(don't get me started) is already taken to make sure you don't do anything interesting before all the crap is done)! Am I the only one on the planet who notices that the fun is sucked out of this game in numerous places?! I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!

Now, then...can someone tell me exactly what's so great about the game that I'm missing? Unless I'm mistaken, this would make a better movie based on a game than an actual game. There, I said it!

I agree. It's like Miyamoto had a confrence and said, " Okay, here's my almighty innovation! We want it to be the opposite of OoT so first let's make it look like a cartoon then lets make it as boring as possible! I'm a genious!"

Much of the dislike for TWW comes from a slight misunderstanding of what either Miyamoto or Anouma said.

The new Zelda is as close to a cartoon as you can get

Many misinterperted this as being a worthless game, as when one thinks of a cartoon many a time they will think of something along the lines of Looney Toons. Saying that TWW has the style of Chibi Anime didn't help either.

This misunderstanding could have been easily avoided if "cartoon" was substituted for one and ony one thing:

Samuri Jack.

Like I had said before, just like it for what it is... are you guys actually going to tell me that MM was better? I remember reading MM reviews and seeing it get perfect scores and be claimed as being better than OoT. I was shocked. I must say many of you that reply did bring up some interesting points (Darth Kirby especially), but I still enjoyed that game very much so. If this is the true sequel to OoT, I guess we should all remember that sequels usually don't turn out as good as their predeccesor. It was a great game nevertheless.

I think ALL the other Zelda games were better than TWW, even MM and AoL.

I am not narrow minded, don't be so ignorant and realize that this is why people dissed, it the graphics and how everything was different and more ''childish''.

William, you truly are a fool. The game has REAL problems, and lots of them. People don't always dislike it simply because of the graphics. :rolleyes:

Samuri Jack.

I hate Samurai Jack

Fool are you if you don't realize the MAIN reason people dissed it!
I am talking about before it was released, and before anyone played it.

I think you misunderstood me... I ment before release, everyone was clearly dissing it because of the cel-shading.

Not NOW!