Makar and Medli

I'm not sure how deeply this has been discussed in this forum, but does anyone know why Makar and Medli's roles in the game aren't reversed?

The fact that Makar should CLEARLY be the Earth sage and Medli should clearly be the Wind sage really bothers me.

o_< Pardon?

Did you not see the resemblance, and how that Makar is Mido's descendant (spelling), and Medli is Laruto's?

Their ancestors guarded that temple and so they should as well..

I dont know, and to me the Earth temple seems to fit Medli, and the Wind Temple seem to fit Makar..

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well, i see what you are saying, but it would be odd to have tables turned. yes, medli is a bird-person, so that would make it understandable if she was the Wind Sage, but she is the descendant of a zora who was the previous sage of the Earth Temple, so it makes sense since Zoras have no control over the wind, but may have some control with the land. and yes, makar is a wood-sprite and it would be understandable if he was the Earth Sage, but his ancestor was a Kokiri Wind Sage who may have had more control over the winds in the trees than the zoras in the water. also, the fact that all of the Korocks seem to ultimately depend upon the wind for the littlest of travel would also stand to justify it.

maybe nintendo just had it this way to drive us all nuts, but who knows? the only fact is that we cannot change what has already been done.

I see what you mean, but i think it would be weird to change around the roles...

It'd be RIGHT to have Meldi the Wind Sage and Makar the plant/earth Sage, but that just isn't the way it is. I don't think to much about it, and I guess some of it depended on the dungeons themselves. I don't remember if the two were much different, but any differences may have been needed in their dungeon. I dunno.

It must really be boring being a Sage. Praying all day. I'd go crazy in that small little room just... praying.

That's my VONDERFUL answer.

I think it is because of the way that Makar and Medli look. Makar lives in the trees, so he was chosen as the Wind Sage after Mido (Makar is a Korok, a new form of Kokiri) and Medli chosen as the Earth God after Laruto (Medli is a new form of Zora) They may both be desendants or they were chosen by the highest ranking Sage to take over after Laruto and Mido died.

Maybe its because birds are usually in the sky or the "wind" and plants are usually in the ground or "earth", so they swapped them around to make it more interesting, i dont really know...

I haven't played windwaker in along time but if Makar is Mido's decendant he should be earth becuase Mido is a forest boy. Are for Medli, its hard to choose becuase she was a decendant of a zora sage although there are no zoras anymore. I think she could have been water or air.

As ive said maybe they have swapped them around for some strange reason...

Originally Posted by OKO

o_< Pardon?

Did you not see the resemblance, and how that Makar is Mido's descendant (spelling), and Medli is Laruto's?

Their ancestors guarded that temple and so they should as well..

Yes, Medli's anscestor is the Earth mage, and Makar's anscestor is a Wind mage. But that isn't an explanation for the complete mix-up. Medli's anscestor Ruto (the Zora) was the WATER sage, and Makar's anscestor Saria (a Kokiri) was the EARTH sage. But in Wind Waker, the Earth sage is a Zora and the Wind sage is a Kokiri, without any explanation as to how the Kokiri suddenly became the Wind sages and the Zora became Earth sages.

Originally Posted by Savannah

I'm not sure how deeply this has been discussed in this forum, but does anyone know why Makar and Medli's roles in the game aren't reversed?

The fact that Makar should CLEARLY be the Earth sage and Medli should clearly be the Wind sage really bothers me.

I see what you are saying there...In the way you explain it it would sound correct. But OKO got it spot on, it would not be right to swap there roles round..even though It would kinda make more sense.
Its a good thought though

I'm not saying that Makar should be the descendant of the Zora or that Medli should be the descendant of the Kokiri. I'm saying that both the ZORA and Medli should be Wind sages and the KOKIRI and Makar should be Earth sages. I know that Medli is a descendant of the Zora and Makar is a descendant of the Kokiri.

What makes you think Medli is a descendant of Ruto and Makar is a descendant of Saria? Medli is a descendant of Laruto, who isn't the same person as Ruto. It doesn't seem that the Kokiri have children, so Makar would be neither Fado nor Saria's descendant, but rather Fado's successor as Sage of Wind.

Originally Posted by Ogmios22188

What makes you think Medli is a descendant of Ruto and Makar is a descendant of Saria? Medli is a descendant of Laruto, who isn't the same person as Ruto. It doesn't seem that the Kokiri have children, so Makar would be neither Fado nor Saria's descendant, but rather Fado's successor as Sage of Wind.

Medli may not be the descendant of Ruto herself, but she IS a descendant of the Zora, and Makar of the Kokiri.

well, she's not exactly a descendant, because the ruto have changed into the Rito, and the Kokiri into the korok. that makes them a evolutionary decendent, or something like that.

Originally Posted by Savannah

Medli may not be the descendant of Ruto herself, but she IS a descendant of the Zora, and Makar of the Kokiri.

The Kokiri don't have children. They're a magical child-like race, all pre-pubescent. They seem inable to have offspring. Also, Makar may have been a Kokiri once before becoming a Korok. The Kokiri and Koroks are created by the Great Deku Tree, and most likely either sprout off of him or from the ground, rather than created sexually.

I agree, infact I think about that quite alot.

Originally Posted by Ogmios22188

The Kokiri don't have children. They're a magical child-like race, all pre-pubescent. They seem inable to have offspring. Also, Makar may have been a Kokiri once before becoming a Korok. The Kokiri and Koroks are created by the Great Deku Tree, and most likely either sprout off of him or from the ground, rather than created sexually.

I kind of would like to agree with you, but there are families of Kokori in OoT. Forr example, the twin girls, of whom I forgot the names, and I am also pretty sure that there was a group of brothers who hung around with each other. But you're right, there are no visible parents around, which makes me think that perhaps Kokori are... produced?... in a ceremonial type ritual. Something like... a male and female can...somehow 'summon' a new Kokori with the aid of the Great Deku tree, and sometimes there are twins, and the couple could return to have more... "children." Perhaps the explanation for there being no maternal or paternal care is just a matter of species culture. What I mean is that maybe the Kokori have the belief that their only caretaker is the Great Deku tree, and parents do not care for their children.