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Windwaker 104 47.06%
Twiligh Princess 65 29.41%
Both are as good as each other 50 22.62%
I never played them. Don't really know why im here 2 0.90%
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:40 PM
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Re: Windwaker is better then TP!

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Saying stuff like this is what makes people think your a little kid. which I am firmly starting to think as well.
That's the point.

I don't care what you think.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:45 PM
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That's the point.

I don't care what you think.
Well apparently you care when people think your a little kid. which is why this whole argument started. you can't just go around overreacting because someone called you childish if you really are.
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Old 02-24-2009, 02:51 PM
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Well apparently you care when people think your a little kid. which is why this whole argument started. you can't just go around overreacting because someone called you childish if you really are.
Uh, you're the one who kept going.

And I'm not overreacting. This is just a way for me to get more posts.
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Old 02-24-2009, 04:24 PM
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Re: Windwaker is better then TP!

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You pretty much described Wind Waker. Except for the 'two worlds' part.
OoT, WW, TP are all like that, so he didn't really discribe WW. Leaving out the giant sea and the fact that he did describe the "two worlds" thing definatly seperates it from WW. The "two worlds part" is a major storyline/gameplay speration from WW. I don't think what he described sounded too much like WW because of those two major differences, even if there are a few similarities.
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Old 02-24-2009, 04:33 PM
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Re: Windwaker is better then TP!

Wind Waker is really great, and so is Twilight Princess. I don't know why people are so skeptical about Twilight Princess though, it's pretty much equal in enjoyability just in a different way.
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Old 02-24-2009, 04:37 PM
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I don't know why people are so skeptical about Twilight Princess though.
It's just what fans of anything do. Lol, simple as that.
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Old 02-24-2009, 07:28 PM
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Re: Windwaker is better then TP!

I prefered WW...I dunno why, just liked it better.
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Old 02-24-2009, 07:29 PM
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Re: Windwaker is better then TP!

I called the game childish because it had childish aspects to it. I never called anyone here childish or intoned that people that played the game were childish, except that to favor the light heartedness and puerile styling of the game play of tWW was to accept that the game was geared more for a younger audience.

That being said, I played, beat and got everything in that game and have repeatedly stated that I got a lot of enjoyment out of it, and that TP, based on my age, was geared more for someone like me. Therefore saying that it is a maturity issue is the same as saying that it's an age issue, not the same as calling people immature.

What seceded from my points, unfortunately, was a big flame war about immaturity, which of course is all very immature

I don't appreciate that Tott chose to start the flame war against anyone that thought that TP was better, whether it applied to TP participating in asinus buccal stimulation or anyone else for that matter, clearly this was done for Tott's entertainment purposes and further at the expense of others. And the point that was made that this pointed to Tott's relative maturity, if not his lack of social graces is really quite accurate.

All that being said, go read a book or something Tott, stop personally insulting people that have a different opinion than you, and let's all stop the flame war.

edit: Oh, I almost forgot, the point about MM was interesting: OoT tried and was probably most successful of any franchise ever for, the unattainable goal of catering to old and young audiences alike. Majora's Mask's goal, in contrast, was in catering to the unconventional convention that is Nintendo's undying style of 'giving people what Nintendo thinks they need, not what they say they want.'

Majora's Mask is a testament to this 'slightly weird' world that Nintendo creates, and had created before with some of the off the wall themes presented in AlttP and LA (e.g. Link with pink hair and turning into a bunny, The walrus guy saying I am the Walrus, etc.) These of course stand the test of time in being some of the best and most memorable Zelda games ever, in that they don't 'fit the mold' as it were, and don't even try to fit the confines of normalcy.

MM was this game; it starred a young link, suggesting that it was catering to younger audiences, and yet was one of the first to present a truly dark and mysterious and slightly cultish world, in this case named Termina. The game presents masks which are firstly a kiddish tradition of masking one's identity, and uses this to bring more adult themes into the game itself. Majora's Mask is weird, no doubt about it, and while I think it is slightly over hyped, it is definitely a favorite of many die hard Zelda fans
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Old 02-24-2009, 08:06 PM
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Old 02-25-2009, 07:48 AM
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Re: Windwaker is better then TP!

I like them both equally, though both have pros and cons.

The Wind Waker has a beautiful art style, wonderful graphics, (best ocean I've seen in any video game) a charming story and cute characters. The dungeons and quests were pretty dull, though.
Twilight Princess had smoother gameplay and a lot more dungeons. The graphics were nice as well, but the story and characters weren't that impressive.

A game with Wind Waker's graphics and story combined with Twilight Princess's gameplay and dungeon quality would be heaven for me.
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Old 02-25-2009, 12:49 PM
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Re: Windwaker is better then TP!

The bosses were way to easy in TP, its just the same thing over and over
get item, find the incredibly noticable weakspot, use item, go on to next dungeon...

WW proved a bit harder for me, althoughh I didn't like sailing that much....
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Old 02-28-2009, 02:28 PM
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Wind Waker is really great, and so is Twilight Princess. I don't know why people are so skeptical about Twilight Princess though, it's pretty much equal in enjoyability just in a different way.
Twilight Princess is the most recent Zelda game, therefore it receives the most critical attention, and its haters are at their most vocal. The same thing happened when Wind Waker was the most recent and when Majora's Mask was the most recent.
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Old 02-28-2009, 03:11 PM
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Well, let's see, two seperate worlds in TP, OoT had a future wolrd and present world.
AlttP has the light world and the dark world.

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OoT had you collect three items in the first half of the game, and more in the second, as did TP.
ALttP had you collect pendants representing Wisdom, Power and Courage, just like the Spiritual Stones represent the tribes. You have to awaken the maidens, just like the Sages.

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Wolf transformation when in the other world, adult transfromation in future.
Bunny transformation when in the Dark World.

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Ganondorf was still the bad guy, sages were still there,
Ganon is the bad guy, the maidens represent the Sages (being descendants and all).

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Master Sword was still the most powerful weapon.
Clearly you didn't get the Biggoron's Sword in OoT.

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Yeah, they're totally different /sarcasm
I still find it quite odd how people manage to always compare TP to OoT. It's like it's totally cool to do it, but no-one mentions ALttP or TWW when both share as much with OoT as TP does.
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:12 PM
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Re: Windwaker is better then TP!

Maybe because TP and OoT are both 3D, and ALttP only being 2D, so people kinda forget about it...?
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:59 AM
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AlttP has the light world and the dark world.



ALttP had you collect pendants representing Wisdom, Power and Courage, just like the Spiritual Stones represent the tribes. You have to awaken the maidens, just like the Sages.



Bunny transformation when in the Dark World.



Ganon is the bad guy, the maidens represent the Sages (being descendants and all).



Clearly you didn't get the Biggoron's Sword in OoT.



I still find it quite odd how people manage to always compare TP to OoT. It's like it's totally cool to do it, but no-one mentions ALttP or TWW when both share as much with OoT as TP does.
aLttP wasn't part of my point, but yeah, I have used it as a point at times. However, WW isn't like those other three. There are less dungeons, there is no transformation, there is only one world (Hyrule doesn't count, its underwater and very little is actually done down there aside from the last dungeon and the reclaiming of the Master Sword, it's basically a giant plot device). So no, tWW is not like TP, OoT or aLttP at all, while those three have tremendous amounts in common.
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aLttP wasn't part of my point, but yeah, I have used it as a point at times. However, WW isn't like those other three. There are less dungeons, there is no transformation, there is only one world (Hyrule doesn't count, its underwater and very little is actually done down there aside from the last dungeon and the reclaiming of the Master Sword, it's basically a giant plot device). So no, tWW is not like TP, OoT or aLttP at all, while those three have tremendous amounts in common.
I wasn't making a point that WW resembled all three - just Ocarina of Time. WW doesn't have to have the same elements that ALttP and TP does in order to be similar to OoT either. That it's something new is granted, but it as any Zelda title resembles other titles, and the references and similarities to OoT are several.
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Old 03-01-2009, 07:54 AM
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I wasn't making a point that WW resembled all three - just Ocarina of Time. WW doesn't have to have the same elements that ALttP and TP does in order to be similar to OoT either. That it's something new is granted, but it as any Zelda title resembles other titles, and the references and similarities to OoT are several.
Yeah, but there are more for aLttP/OoT/TP as a group, they share more of a similarity (and references) than most other games in the series (both aLttP and TP refer to events that occured in and around OoT quite heavily).
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Yeah, but there are more for aLttP/OoT/TP as a group, they share more of a similarity (and references) than most other games in the series (both aLttP and TP refer to events that occured in and around OoT quite heavily).
TP refers to what happened long before OoT (this is the story that Lanayru tells you) and after (it is implied quite heavily that the ancient hero that is told of is the Hero of Time). WW, on the other hand, refers specifically to the Hero of Time (it is the only game - which doesn't feature the Hero of Time himself - that does this, actually) and that directly refers to the events that happened at the end of OoT, where Link defeats Ganon and goes back in time.

ALttP/OoT/TP do share more common similarities than WW, that is true. WW is just different in what similarities there are. If that makes any sense
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:23 AM
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I like them the same, windwaker was fresh and had a good vibe about it but than twilight princess was awesome, epic and felt more like ocarina of time which is the greatest but still like them the same
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Old 03-03-2009, 10:32 AM
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Re: Windwaker is better then TP!

I agree..

even if TP was a bit of a clone of OoT I liked the epic feel and the nostalgia it brought.
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