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Old 01-16-2009, 09:52 PM
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Re: Usurper King Zant... oh well maybe that title is to much

^ Wow.......it sounds nice and to me makes me think that he has gone evil mad. The first two scenes are great. I love how you said that Zant has the children tied to a pole and is waving it around, makes the game have a darker side to it. Although if Zant were changed, then ganondorf would also have to be changed so that he surpasses Zant's madness. All in all nice job.
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:05 PM
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He started of as a generic Ganondorf clone who was later upgraded to a lunatic. In the end, it's only good that he was pushed aside by the real thing. Ganondorf.
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Old 01-17-2009, 06:55 AM
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^ Wow.......it sounds nice and to me makes me think that he has gone evil mad. The first two scenes are great. I love how you said that Zant has the children tied to a pole and is waving it around, makes the game have a darker side to it. Although if Zant were changed, then ganondorf would also have to be changed so that he surpasses Zant's madness. All in all nice job.
I wanted to show madness really and using the children like that is one way, the other is to have him laughing like he's insane at times.

Though Ganon doesn't show madness really so Zant could be like that and Ganon could be the same (or taken out, Zant should have been the big villain here)

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He started of as a generic Ganondorf clone who was later upgraded to a lunatic. In the end, it's only good that he was pushed aside by the real thing. Ganondorf.
He started off as mysterious and creepy, emanating power without even lifting a finger.

Ganon is not mysterious or creepy and uses brute force alot of the time to show his power.

Zant is definitely not a Ganondorf clone and if they didn't throw Ganon in there, it could have been alright
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Old 01-17-2009, 10:11 AM
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Re: Usurper King Zant... oh well maybe that title is to much

He was a fine villain. Yea, he acted all tough at first because he thought he had the power. After seeing Link get so far, it's no surprise that he cracked and went all crazy like. The battle itself was awesome with the constant changing of the battle scenes compared to Ganon who keeps all his battles simple.

I wonder how it would be if Ganon used his powers to send them in different locations for their final battle.
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Old 01-17-2009, 11:13 AM
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He was a fine villain. Yea, he acted all tough at first because he thought he had the power. After seeing Link get so far, it's no surprise that he cracked and went all crazy like. The battle itself was awesome with the constant changing of the battle scenes compared to Ganon who keeps all his battles simple.

I wonder how it would be if Ganon used his powers to send them in different locations for their final battle.
The battle was a dissapointment, it was merely copying all the past battles in the game.

I was there for ten minutes on Zant wondering how the hell to beat him, it was only when I turned around and saw the deku symbol did I realise what was going on. I wasn't expecting a cop out like this.
From there on, the battle was easy as it was just rehashing old battles.

As for Zant changing, not only would Link getting where he is not have cracked Zant that easily but it wouldn't have changed him the way it did. A person who is in control, calm and ruthless would not flip out into an immature jester.
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Old 01-18-2009, 12:09 PM
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Re: Usurper King Zant... oh well maybe that title is to much

When link saw zant for the first time, Zant had a very evil impression.

Later when in the twillight palace, Zant looked like a big dumb maniac.
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Old 01-18-2009, 03:57 PM
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I think it was a great shame to turn Zant into such an idiot. They had a great opportunity to make him a really imposing villain.
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:14 PM
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To me, it seems like Zant was intended to be like the final boss in the game, but half way through the game Nintendo was like "If we don't put in Ganon people arent going to like the game as much" so they quickly put Ganon in the middle with little explanation. As for the fight with Zant I was pretty dissapointed. I would have preferred somthing long and epic not just a repeat of all the previous boss battles.
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:28 PM
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Repeating the battles is an element I've always liked, actually. Though yes, Zant was a disappointment, once I figured out the logic.
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:40 PM
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Re: Usurper King Zant... oh well maybe that title is to much

I liked him better when he acted like himself, instead of Ganondorf. To me, he went from a ganondorf clone to an actual original Zelda villain. I wish he wound up betraying Ganondorf, and being the final boss, if they were going to use Ganondorf at all. Have Zant be protrayed as a follower, but just before you fight Ganondorf, have a cutscene where he is defeated and killed or imprisoned by Zant. Zant takes his power, then you have a crazy villain that's not used as a puppet.
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Old 01-18-2009, 04:48 PM
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Except I doubt they'd ever have someone who'd out-do Ganon.
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Old 01-18-2009, 07:04 PM
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I liked him better when he acted like himself, instead of Ganondorf. To me, he went from a ganondorf clone to an actual original Zelda villain. I wish he wound up betraying Ganondorf, and being the final boss, if they were going to use Ganondorf at all. Have Zant be protrayed as a follower, but just before you fight Ganondorf, have a cutscene where he is defeated and killed or imprisoned by Zant. Zant takes his power, then you have a crazy villain that's not used as a puppet.
Zant was an original villain to begin with, he is the calm, mysterious, creepy one who extrudes power without even lifting a finger. Ganon is the one who uses brute force and sometimes magic and swordplay to show his power.

There is a huge difference between the two, Zant is definitely not a clone of Ganon
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Old 01-18-2009, 07:44 PM
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Zant was an original villain to begin with, he is the calm, mysterious, creepy one who extrudes power without even lifting a finger. Ganon is the one who uses brute force and sometimes magic and swordplay to show his power.

There is a huge difference between the two, Zant is definitely not a clone of Ganon
Well, they don't seem too different to me. They were both overconfident, and forceful. He was more original after he changed. we already have enemies like Ganondorf and Onox. Also Vaati, to a lesser extent.
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Old 01-18-2009, 07:55 PM
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Well, they don't seem too different to me. They were both overconfident, and forceful. He was more original after he changed. we already have enemies like Ganondorf and Onox. Also Vaati, to a lesser extent.
Those would be the only qualities they have in common and they aren't even that similar.

There are plenty of qualities to Zant that makes him much different than Ganon
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Those would be the only qualities they have in common and they aren't even that similar.

There are plenty of qualities to Zant that makes him much different than Ganon
Yes, after he takes off the mask. Which is why I love him. I was not impressed by him at first, nor was I interested. I felt like I had seen it before too many times, with other villains.
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Yes, after he takes off the mask. Which is why I love him. I was not impressed by him at first, nor was I interested. I felt like I had seen it before too many times, with other villains.
No, before he takes off the mask he is an original villain where the only stuff he has in common with Ganon is that he is overconfident and forceful (barely), when he takes the mask off he is a wimpy immature fool.

I'll repeat it again for hopefully the last time, Zant is an original villain, before and after he takes off the mask but a much better villain before
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No, before he takes off the mask he is an original villain where the only stuff he has in common with Ganon is that he is overconfident and forceful (barely), when he takes the mask off he is a wimpy immature fool.

I'll repeat it again for hopefully the last time, Zant is an original villain, before and after he takes off the mask but a much better villain before
I agree. I think it kind of deludes his character when you see him spinning around like an idiot after he snaps. He was still his own character before you hear his sob-story, and a pretty cool one at that. It would have been better if they made a more challenging (and less idiotic) fight with Zant.
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Re: Usurper King Zant... oh well maybe that title is to much

Zant really seemed dull to me until he went insane. He felt pretty shallow and unimportant once Ganondorf was mentioned, but that changed when he went crazy. Also, I can now look back on certain moments in the game and see how they'd fit in with Zant's psychosis.
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:05 PM
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The only thing I hated about him was the shape of his head and his voice. It was waaaaay to high. I was expecting a deep, guttural "burn in Hell" voice.
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I liked him better when he acted like himself, instead of Ganondorf. To me, he went from a ganondorf clone to an actual original Zelda villain. I wish he wound up betraying Ganondorf, and being the final boss, if they were going to use Ganondorf at all. Have Zant be protrayed as a follower, but just before you fight Ganondorf, have a cutscene where he is defeated and killed or imprisoned by Zant. Zant takes his power, then you have a crazy villain that's not used as a puppet.
That is the unbeatable style of the most crasziest villian, Kefka.
I would have liked it, if Zanto would pull out such a thing.
Ganondorf:"What are you doing!?"
Zanto:" I take that, what rightfully belongs to me, you false god."
Ganondorf:" You....!"
Zanto: " Now here is your reward for supporting me! Myahahahaha!"
Ganondorf: " Arrrrrrgggghhhh!"
He turns to Link.
Zanto: "Thank you, that you delivered me, him on a silver tablet...Now you should be rewarded as well!"

Fight starts.
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