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Old 10-30-2006, 03:38 PM
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Speculation on Overworld Locations

So have you seen those two mini-vids that surfaced on GoNintendo last week?

http://gonintendo.com/?p=7425

I watched both and immediately recognized that both locations in the mini-vids were places that we've seen before. Here are the comparisons:

Screencap from latest IGN gameplay video (found here: http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748589/vids_1.html

This screen matches the location seen in Video 1 from GoNintendo. See the one-spire castle that looks like it's surrounded by Twilight (upper left)? The two videos were made in almost the exact same place.

Here's a screencap from the GDC 2005 trailer:

This matches the location in Video 2 almost exactly. The castle in this pic, a different one than the one above it, has an entry way lined with columns. It is the same in the GDC 2005 trailer.

Now the thread topic: why? Why is Nintendo showing us the same places over and over? Is it because they've only finished a certain area of the overworld? Is it because they want to keep the ultra-cool stuff a secret? Is it convenience or coincidence? Is it because the overworld is smaller than we think?
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:08 PM
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So have you seen those two mini-vids that surfaced on GoNintendo last week?

http://gonintendo.com/?p=7425

I watched both and immediately recognized that both locations in the mini-vids were places that we've seen before. Here are the comparisons:

Screencap from latest IGN gameplay video (found here: http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748589/vids_1.html

This screen matches the location seen in Video 1 from GoNintendo. See the one-spire castle that looks like it's surrounded by Twilight (upper left)? The two videos were made in almost the exact same place.

Here's a screencap from the GDC 2005 trailer:

This matches the location in Video 2 almost exactly. The castle in this pic, a different one than the one above it, has an entry way lined with columns. It is the same in the GDC 2005 trailer.

Now the thread topic: why? Why is Nintendo showing us the same places over and over? Is it because they've only finished a certain area of the overworld? Is it because they want to keep the ultra-cool stuff a secret? Is it convenience or coincidence? Is it because the overworld is smaller than we think?
If the game is supposed to be released in 20 days, do you really think it's because they only finished a certain area of the overworld? Come on now.....that just doesn't make sense Klew.
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: Speculation on Overworld Locations

Location, location, location. Those pics are much closer to that area then they were in the videos. Plus we never saw that mountain (which strangly remindes me of Fire Mountain from WW) in the trailer. You guys ask too many questions.
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:28 PM
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Re: Speculation on Overworld Locations

If you look in the first mini video that was posted with Link fighting that enemy. If you look to the VERY left of the screen there is a lava type mountain.
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:30 PM
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Re: Speculation on Overworld Locations

Thats what I'm saying. Its not in the main trailer. That mountain reminds me of Fire Mountain, which gave me the thought that we may even see Wind Waker locations as well as Ocarina of Time.
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:35 PM
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Re: Speculation on Overworld Locations

Klew, why would you think that the overworld isn't complete if the game is releasing in 20 days? Nintendo probably has started mass producing the game by now and if they haven't, there going to start in the next couple of days.
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:17 PM
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The game IS completed. They even got some Matt dude playing it.
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:23 PM
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The game IS completed. They even got some Matt dude playing it.
Yes the game is completed. Matt from IGN Wii isn't the only one playing it. RawMeatCowboy from Gonintendo is playing it and so is someone from gamespy. And the event starts tomorrow and ends on wednesday.
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:24 PM
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Re: Speculation on Overworld Locations

They have to be done with the overworld by now. Also I have noticed nintendo doesn't like to give spoilers about this game. Maybe there are spoilers across the over world they don't want to show.
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:29 PM
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They have to be done with the overworld by now. Also I have noticed nintendo doesn't like to give spoilers about this game. Maybe there are spoilers across the over world they don't want to show.
Exactly. Nintendo has to have started (or will be starting VERY SOON) mass production of the game. They have to burn copies of MILLIONS of games and package and ship them all. The game comes out in 19 days! The final code is complete.
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Old 10-30-2006, 06:14 PM
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Re: Speculation on Overworld Locations

The two places don't even look similiar to me Klew. The new screen is in a hilly area without trees and the old one is in a flat area with dead trees. And the two castles are different.
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Old 10-30-2006, 06:17 PM
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Re: Speculation on Overworld Locations

In the newest gameplay video with link fighting that bokoblin on foot, you can see a castle in the background and it does look like the same one as seen in the first picture posted by klew. But it is not the same castle as the one seen in my avatar. The one in my avatar is has three towers/spikes and the one in the videos only have one.
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Old 10-30-2006, 06:36 PM
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In the newest gameplay video with link fighting that bokoblin on foot, you can see a castle in the background and it does look like the same one as seen in the first picture posted by klew. But it is not the same castle as the one seen in my avatar. The one in my avatar is has three towers/spikes and the one in the videos only have one.
Your avatar is my absolute favorite screen. The detail is awesome and the overworld looks gigantic and very entertaining.

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Old 10-30-2006, 06:42 PM
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Your avatar is my absolute favorite screen. The detail is awesome and the overworld looks gigantic and very entertaining.

20 days
Yea, it is my favorite picture as wel....my sig even has a portion of the picture. The overworld looks amazing and with all of the hills/cliffs I expect to do a lot of exploring with wolf link as well. I hope wolf link has full access to the overworld.

And it's actually 19 days, 5 hours and 16 minutes to be exact.....here's a link to an up to the second countdown.........http://oas.imageg.net/O/a/Creatives/..._countdown.swf
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Old 10-30-2006, 08:36 PM
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Klew, why would you think that the overworld isn't complete if the game is releasing in 20 days? Nintendo probably has started mass producing the game by now and if they haven't, there going to start in the next couple of days.
Wow, you don't let a topic go, do you?

NO, I DON'T THINK ZELDA IS UNFINISHED. I was anticipating responses and getting the conversation started.

For the record, I meant that it is possible that at the time the videos were released, much of the overworld was not ready to be shown to the public. This doesn't mean it was unfinished--but it might mean they were still using beta textures and such in place of the near-ready final versions.
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Old 10-30-2006, 08:40 PM
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Wow, you don't let a topic go, do you?

NO, I DON'T THINK ZELDA IS UNFINISHED. I was anticipating responses and getting the conversation started.

For the record, I meant that it is possible that at the time the videos were released, much of the overworld was not ready to be shown to the public. This doesn't mean it was unfinished--but it might mean they were still using beta textures and such in place of the near-ready final versions.
Sorry, I didn't mean to harp on the subject. But anyway, doesn't the overworld look amazing in the new two (very short) video clips?
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Wow, you don't let a topic go, do you?

NO, I DON'T THINK ZELDA IS UNFINISHED. I was anticipating responses and getting the conversation started.

For the record, I meant that it is possible that at the time the videos were released, much of the overworld was not ready to be shown to the public. This doesn't mean it was unfinished--but it might mean they were still using beta textures and such in place of the near-ready final versions.
You´re very right about that. Nintendo may have hidden many things from the demos we´ve seen (but I´m not sure about the trailers), like finished textures, Link´s animations, moves, gameplay systems, weather systems, enemies, and well, some other things. I repeat, this is only a possibility.

And, getting in topic: I think that the your first screen does resemble the place of the first clip, but I don´t agree with the second one. I´m quite sure that the scene shown in the second clip was the boar battle from the E3 2005 demo, where you have to rescue Colin.

It is like a plain with little ponds, and has the bridge not too far off. So, yep, I think they´re showing us the same place, but new and polished. I can´t wait to read the new interviews... I check the Iwata interviews site every day.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:12 PM
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Re: Speculation on Overworld Locations

Here's something I just thought of: what if these areas are different in some way from the reat of the overworld? I mean, what if they're being used as "test areas"? I don't mean that they won't be in the final game...but they could be MUCH different. Just a thought.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:44 PM
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Here's something I just thought of: what if these areas are different in some way from the reat of the overworld? I mean, what if they're being used as "test areas"? I don't mean that they won't be in the final game...but they could be MUCH different. Just a thought.
I think it's safe to say they will be in the final version. Why would Nintendo release those two mini videos three weeks before release and not include them in the final version? That really wouldn't make any sense at all.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:54 PM
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Re: Speculation on Overworld Locations

I think you're right, I think they will definitely be in the final game...but what if now, they're in the "test mode" and before the final release things will be changes (i.e. the finalized textures, etc.)?
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