Making TP harder

There have been many complaints that TP is too easy. While I sorta agree, I still really enjoyed TP. But for those who want to play a 'harder' version of it, I can understand why.

And this is why I made this thread. You all wanted the game to be hard. Therefore, you must follow all of these 'guidelines'.

Also I dare you to do this. >_> Anyway, moving on.

1. Do the three heart challenge that you all know and love.

2. Do not use a shield whatsoever. Have your first shield burn away and don't buy another.

3. Do not use the warps, except when you really have to use them. Instead, get around Hyrule by either running or walking.'

4. While in Hyrule Field, allow yourself to be chased by baddies. Do not attack them at all. This does not apply to enemies in dungeons.

5. Wear the Zora Armor in fire or icy dungeons, such as Arbiter's Grounds with the fire keese and in Snowpeak Ruins. Link is more vulnerable to fire and ice attacks while wearing this armor.

6. Do not use Oocoo or Oocoo Jr, except during emergencies such as if you're stuck in a room you can't get out because of a glitch, etc.

7. There is a Zora near the waterfall of Zora's Domain who can instantly take you to the top. Don't use him. If you want to go to Zora's Domain, always use the long way.

8. Do not use revival fairies or red potions/soup, etc.

9. After you get the Master Sword, change it back to the Ordon Blade. Only use the Master Sword when needed.

10. Learn as little hidden skills as possible. You only need the Finishing Move to complete the game. Even then, try not to use that skill except when you have to.

11. No not bother with the golden bugs at all.

12. If you know which chests contain maps and compasses, don't
open them.

11. If you know which chests contain rupees, don't open them either.
Don't play the Star Game or any other way you earn rupees. Instead,
make your living off from cutting bushes and smashing vases.

12. When you get the Water Bombs, don't change them back. You can
only carry a few water bombs and they are expensive. E.g. don't buy
normal bombs or bug bombs.

13. Don't get things such as quill upgrades, etc.

14. Don't bother with the Magic Armor.

15. In boss battles, there are nearly always nearby 'vases' that can
be destroyed for hearts or other items. Ignore these.

16. When battling Ganondorf, do not use the fishing rod or 'Chance'. It
is possible to defeat him without doing either one of these.

17. When you get to the point where you can turn into a wolf at anytime, howl for Epona instead when you want to ride her. Although it's still easy, it can take a tiny bit of effort to do it constantly. Don't bother with the Epona flute that Illia gives you.

18. There is a room in Hyrule Castle where you encounter two Darknuts. Instead of picking off one by one, fight them both at the same time.

If you have more to add to the list, do post.

Well, I don't really have any complaints about the game, but I feel like trying this. And I have the means to record the whole thing.

One thing though, on number 16, what exactly is the "chance" thing?

19. When in the fist dungeon, lower your health to one heart and try as hard as you can to stay alive like this. Try not to heal yourself with hearts.

Originally Posted by Mike

Well, I don't really have any complaints about the game, but I feel like trying this. And I have the means to record the whole thing.

One thing though, on number 16, what exactly is the "chance" thing?

I wasn't sure of it, since I couldn't figure it out at the time. It's when Ganondorf lunges at you and you see "Press A" next to the word 'Chance'.

Ah, okay. That should be easy enough.

2. Do not use a shield whatsoever.

Thats kinda hard since the game automatically puts the shield up when you l target.

7. There is a Zora near the waterfall of Zora's Domain who can instantly take you to the top. Don't use him. If you want to go to Zora's Domain, always use the long way.

3. Do not use the warps, except when you really have to use them. Instead, get around Hyrule by either running or walking.'

I thought we are making it more difficult, not more tedious. Going the long way doesn't make the game any harder, it just makes it take 3 minuets longer.

11. Get just a single golden bug and get the first larger wallet which lets you collect 600 rupees instead of 200. You will need this wallet to pay the cannon clown to fix the cannon if you want to go to the City in the Sky. Afterwards, don't bother with any other bugs.

So your saying that doint the bare minimum is harder than doing a 100% quest compleation? Thats funny math. Also, the starting wallet holds exactly 300 rupees, so you don't need a bug.

While all the other suggestions you have work, these really don't.

Also, WW and MC are much easier than TP.

Originally Posted by SheikahSage

Thats kinda hard since the game automatically puts the shield up when you l target.

Simple. Have the shield burn away and don't buy another shield.

I thought we are making it more difficult, not more tedious. Going the long way doesn't make the game any harder, it just makes it take 3 minuets longer.

I realize that. However, warps makes traveling too easy. Besides, this is how the "Hyrule Field enemies must be allowed to chase you" fits into place.

So your saying that doint the bare minimum is harder than doing a 100% quest compleation? Thats funny math. Also, the starting wallet holds exactly 300 rupees, so you don't need a bug.

Good point there. I wasn't exactly sure as I couldn't remember before. I'll remove that from the list.

Also, WW and MC are much easier than TP.

Not according to everyone else on the board. >_>

While all this will certainly make the game much harder, it still won't make the bosses any harder than the actual enemies and dungeons. I think that was really the only main complaint about the game, was the bosses being the easiest set of bosses in Zelda history.

If TP's bosses were at least as difficult as the ones in OoT, then it wouldn't of been too bad at all.

Unfortunately we can't really change the way you battle enemies and bosses. Sure you can avoid using gimmicks to make the boss harder, such as no hidden skills, fishing pole or no 'Chance' for example.... but they're not that much, which I will admit.

So to compensate for that, I listed ways to make the average gameplay harder... or at least I tried.

Originally Posted by The Goron Moron

Unfortunately we can't really change the way you battle enemies and bosses. Sure you can avoid using gimmicks to make the boss harder, such as no hidden skills, fishing pole or no 'Chance' for example.... but they're not that much, which I will admit.

So to compensate for that, I listed ways to make the average gameplay harder... or at least I tried.

Yeah, I'm not saying you did bad. It's a good way to make the game harder.

(I love Twilight Princess, myself. And I'm no fanboy. I never got caught up in the hype, or looked fore ward to it. I just simply played it when I had the chance, and I loved it.)

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What's this about a fishing pole? I'm quite certain that I did NOT use a fishing pole to defeat the last boss. 0_O

In my opinion, all TP really needed was for the enemies to do more damage later on in the game; maybe similar to OoT's structure. Also, to be picky, I think that King Bulbin could have been a bit faster, and that Zant shouldn't have lost his breath as often as he did during the fight.

Originally Posted by Average Gamer

In my opinion, all TP really needed was for the enemies to do more damage later on in the game; maybe similar to OoT's structure. Also, to be picky, I think that King Bulbin could have been a bit faster, and that Zant shouldn't have lost his breath as often as he did during the fight.

Gahhh, what's the name of that, "game", that the knights would play? The battle with King Bulbin on the bridge is similar to that game. Please, someone give me the name!

Anyway, I thought that battle was okay in difficulty. The regular enemies were okay for me... It was just the bosses, and that's it. I'm sure that Nintendo has looked into the fans feedback and has taken the hint by now. I'm sure the next game will deliver us some tougher bosses.

Originally Posted by Maetora

Gahhh, what's the name of that, "game", that the knights would play? The battle with King Bulbin on the bridge is similar to that game. Please, someone give me the name!

Jousting.

What I meant was that King Bulbin could have moved more quickly when Link fought him on foot.

Originally Posted by Maetora

Yeah, I'm not saying you did bad. It's a good way to make the game harder.

(I love Twilight Princess, myself. And I'm no fanboy. I never got caught up in the hype, or looked fore ward to it. I just simply played it when I had the chance, and I loved it.)

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What's this about a fishing pole? I'm quite certain that I did NOT use a fishing pole to defeat the last boss. 0_O

If you pull out the fishing pole while facing against the last Ganondorf battle, he will look at you as if "What the frick are you doing?". It's supposedly hilarious. I don't know, I think I read somewhere that it supposedly made the boss battle easier.

Originally Posted by The Goron Moron

If you pull out the fishing pole while facing against the last Ganondorf battle, he will look at you as if "What the frick are you doing?". It's supposedly hilarious. I don't know, I think I read somewhere that it supposedly made the boss battle easier.

Oh, that's weird. Haha. I never did that. I don't remember what the chance thing was, either. I just remember kicking his ass.

Who knows? Maybe if a Twilight Princess Master Quest was created, its difficulty could be raised

Originally Posted by darkbeastganon

Who knows? Maybe if a Twilight Princess Master Quest was created, its difficulty could be raised

I'de play it. But it would be unnecessary to actually create a, "Twilight Princess: Master Quest", game.

I say hack the game and make all enemies do like 5 damage and remove auto shielding. I can't do that myself but it'd be sweet if we could.

Originally Posted by Tally-chan

I say hack the game and make all enemies do like 5 damage and remove auto shielding. I can't do that myself but it'd be sweet if we could.

I really want to modify some Zelda games. But I'm not educated in that area.

There is an Action Replay cheat that makes the enemies have ten times more health, and another that reduces the damage the sword does. There are also other cheats that make gameplay more difficult, but I can't think of them at the moment.

Unfortunately the AR model that allows you to add cheats has been discontinued.