the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

The directors have made a special note of the importance of his manual preference.

He is left handed in every game where they had the ability to make it so.
No one else is left handed in the games.

He is literally the only left handed person in Hyrule.

Originally Posted by Aziel Satori

The directors have made a special note of the importance of his manual preference.

He is left handed in every game where they had the ability to make it so.
No one else is left handed in the games.

He is literally the only left handed person in Hyrule.

You can't say that. Because you're only assuming that everyone else in Hyrule is right handed, with no facts or evidence to point towards it.

The games. Director comments. As portrayed in the games, he is the only left handed character.

Outside of fan fiction, there is no "rest of Hyrule".

We say him being left handed is important because link is the only character from the zelda universe we know to be left handed. The Hero's Shade say the moves have only been passed in his bloodline, we can conclude TP Link and HS are related. Knowing that, lets focus on the ToC, which Link has since the beginning of TP. The ToC is passed down from the Hero of time. So do we see how all three are related? Now let's explore the title "Hero". Hero's Shade is obviously an ancestor of TP as mentioned above and the only other ancestor of TP Link to have the title "Hero" is OoT Link.

So it is safe to assume: Hero's Shade=OoT Link

I merely think that he is just a superior Hylian Knight of the past than the OoT Link. Perhaps they train with the left hand because it could be acustomed to fight with the left hand than the right. Who knows?

Even though many people think that he may as well be the OoT Link, I still have my doubts on this.

It's heavily implied that he is OoT Link.

By his words, by his choice of sword hand, whatever else people mentioned etc.

"Hero" has always referred to an incarnation of Link as well.

As OoT is Link I, so far, he is the only Hero that predates TP's Link.

Though there is a lot of evidence that supports this theory of the soldier being the Hero of Time, I choose not to believe it. I can't stand looking at some skeletal remains and think that it's the Hero of Time.

P.S. Woohoo! 100th post (again)

lol. well no one said it had to be him. its just very probable. i figure it its not the hero of time then its the spirit of all the links prior to the twilight princess link. every link prior rolled into one. thats my "reasonable theory number two". in my own opinion i think its the hero of time.

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I wonder how he died; maybe killed in line of duty in the Lost Woods?

-The hero's shade and link from TP are in the same blood line.
-The hero's shade know the songs from MM that only link knows
-The hero's shade calls link "my child"
-The hero's shade is left handed.
-The hero shade said: "I accept My live as the hero".

Conclusions:
The hero's shade=The hero of time
Link from TP=desendant from the hero of time.

Originally Posted by smallville boy

-The hero's shade and link from TP are in the same blood line.
-The hero's shade know the songs from MM that only link knows
-The hero's shade calls link "my child"
-The hero's shade is left handed.
-The hero shade said: "I accept My live as the hero".

Conclusions:
The hero's shade=The hero of time
Link from TP=desendant from the hero of time.

You are so wise.

After reading through everyones posts and thinking about it I thought maybe this could be looked at with a mathematical point of view. So, I tried to devise a way to average the probablility of the possibilities of Hero's Shade's origin. I looked at every arguement and counter-arguement brought up earlier and assigned "points" to each based on how true I felt each point was. (remember this is mainly based on how probable I feel these ideas are, not whats necessarily true).

-F = Fact....I feel it is absolutely true or at least enough to beleive it. 2 pts.
-C* = Maybe???....I feel it could be true but not sure either way. 1 pt.
-C = Coincidence....No way or just not relevant or beleivable enough. 0 pts.



Hero's Shade IS a past Hero 58.333...%

1. They are in the same bloodline. -F
2. They are both left handed. -C*
3. Link is referred to as "My child." -C
4. Both take Wolf form(implying some similarity, even if only in character) -C*
5. Hero's Shade knows songs from older series. -C*
6. Hero's Shade claims to have "accepted my life as THE Hero. -F

Hero's Shade is NOT a past Hero 50%

1. He's just way too large(physically). -F
2. Would the directors REALLY portray the hero of time as a rotting skeleton? -C*
3. The Sheikah Eyes imply Hero's Shade is a former Sheikah warrior. -C


Overall = 55.555...%

Based on this I'd say I'm basically right on the fence with a slight lean towards the "Hero's Shade IS a past Hero" side.

Originally Posted by smallville boy

-The hero's shade and link from TP are in the same blood line.
-The hero's shade know the songs from MM that only link knows
-The hero's shade calls link "my child"
-The hero's shade is left handed.
-The hero shade said: "I accept My live as the hero".

Conclusions:
The hero's shade=The hero of time
Link from TP=desendant from the hero of time.

It should also be noted that one song from the Wind Waker was used. How can one explain how the Hero of Time knows that?

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the way some of you talk about link reminds me about Lassie...
Lassie: Bark Bark!
Old Man: Whats that? theres a boy trapped in well?
If he couldn't speak it would just be strange.
Mayor bo says when he's talking to link. Oh, thats not the answer i wanted to hear. in tp
link speaks we just dont see it.
Midna even asks him to say something at the end.

He speaks in every game. Only NPCs can hear him.....

Originally Posted by smallville boy

-The hero's shade and link from TP are in the same blood line.
-The hero's shade know the songs from MM that only link knows
-The hero's shade calls link "my child"
-The hero's shade is left handed.
-The hero shade said: "I accept My live as the hero".

Conclusions:
The hero's shade=The hero of time
Link from TP=desendant from the hero of time.

I finnally agree with you he is the OoT Link

Sorry for digging up this thread again. The thing is that I'm arguing via youtube about the Zelda timeline and someone threw in the Hero's shade as an argument. So I googled a bit about it and found this topic, and that's why I'm answering.

Originally Posted by Aziel Satori

The directors have made a special note of the importance of his manual preference.

He is left handed in every game where they had the ability to make it so.
No one else is left handed in the games.

He is literally the only left handed person in Hyrule.

Actually, he's not. When I thought about someone who might have a similar role and might be left-handed as well, the first person that came into my mind was Link's uncle from ALttP. So I checked for that, and guess what:



Left-handedness runs in the family, I guess. So the Hero's shade does not have to be Link - or a Link - he might be some great-grandfather, uncle or something.

Also, about the songs. Okay, OoT/MM-Link knew all of them, or at least most of them, that much ist true. But so what? Note that the Hero's shade does NOT teach Link the songs. On the contrary. Link as a wolf howls them first, and the golden wolf responds to these howles. Quite the other way around, isn't it? I look at it more like a wolf-kinda conversation. Link calls for someone to help him, and the Hero's shade responds.
And even if the shade knew all those songs, that doesn't prove anything. Because then, there must be other people out there knowing them as well - unless you are claiming that it was the Hero's shade who ran through Hyrule and drilled holes into the gossip stones to make them play the right tunes. I don't think so.

Another thing. The Hero's shade seems to have failed with his mission, whatever it was. The Hero of Time did not, if I reckon correctly. Didn't Link in Ocarina of Time defeat Ganon? And save Termina in Majora's Mask? I don't see how he would have failed his mission then. And I also can't imagine what must have happened to Link to change his old tunics for some heavy armory and lose an eye, after fighting Ganondorf and the moon. It must have been something even more terrible...


Okay, so I'm basically just shattering the idea that the Hero's shade is the Hero of Time (and my main reason to do so is that from a creator's point of view, it doesn't make much sense to wanna show an old character and make him look nothing like he used to). But what good is that without offering another, maybe even better explanation? Well, so here's my idea:

The Hero's shade was the one who should have stopped Ganondorf before he was banished to the Twilight Realm. If he had succeeded and banned/killed Ganondorf or whatever, the Sages would not have had to interfere and risk the life of one of them. But for some strange reason, that Hero did not accomplish his mission - he failed and died.



Okay, so I hope that wasn't too much stabbing into old wounds again. But I registered here just for being able to post that. Just wanted to offer another point of view, maybe...

Originally Posted by PeterGerri

The Hero's shade was the one who should have stopped Ganondorf before he was banished to the Twilight Realm. If he had succeeded and banned/killed Ganondorf or whatever, the Sages would not have had to interfere and risk the life of one of them. But for some strange reason, that Hero did not accomplish his mission - he failed and died.

Oh wow...that...actually makes a LOT of sense! I always thought that te Hero's Shade was actually some Link from the past...but now that I've read your post, I think you're onto something here!