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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

Considering that Link II is preceded by Link I, there are not many Links it could be.

It's implied that he is the Hero of Time.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:24 AM
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Considering that Link II is preceded by Link I, there are not many Links it could be.

It's implied that he is the Hero of Time.
^ Where's the proof?
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:27 AM
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

I think the Hero's Shade must have been a holder of the Triforce of Courage at one point, through what it implied in TP. Let's see: wolf, check; impotant hero, check. The Triforce of Courage is what turned Link into a wolf to preserve him in the first place, so isn't it safe to assume the same for he who became the Hero's Shade?
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:34 AM
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

It's called the timeline.

OoT->MM->TP

Sorry, but that's only two different Links, canonically no other Links come before OoT.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:48 AM
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

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It's called the timeline.

OoT->MM->TP

Sorry, but that's only two different Links, canonically no other Links come before OoT.
But still, it could be Link or it's not Link from OoT. The Link's come from a bloodline of Hylian Knights. Maybe the Hero's Shade is one of these superior knights that appeared after OoT Link passed away or something, because their techniques do come from their bloodline. I mean, where did Link learn his sword swings from? All on his own, which must be genetics from that bloodline.

And another thing, there are a lot of physical difference between the two. Link is shorter than him, he is so much bulkier and so forth...

In other words, he could be anyone.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:51 AM
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

Not canon. That's manga crap from the aLttP release.

By all means there is no reason that TP Link can't be shorter, also remember the only time you see an adult link in OoT is when he is a teenager, no reason why he can't grow some more.
The size difference was mostly to show a sort of master learner relationship between the two.

It's so heavily implied he is the former Hero of Time, that it's a bit out there to think otherwise.

he's left handed, called the Hero's Shade, (note the capital H in hero) as well as the backstory he alludes to.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:58 AM
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

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Not canon. That's manga crap from the aLttP release.

By all means there is no reason that TP Link can't be shorter, also remember the only time you see an adult link in OoT is when he is a teenager, no reason why he can't grow some more.
The size difference was mostly to show a sort of master learner relationship between the two.

It's so heavily implied he is the former Hero of Time, that it's a bit out there to think otherwise.

he's left handed, called the Hero's Shade, (note the capital H in hero) as well as the backstory he alludes to.
^ Another thing that I forgot to point out is that Link is pretty much taller than the Gorons in OoT when they are much taller than Link in TP. Does that ring a bell?
But yeah, he does say something that is only heard through family.

Meh I'm confused.
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:04 AM
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

There most likely is no true blood relation between the two.

What he alludes to is the Hero's Line. The incarnations of the chosen hero.
Their relation is through their nature as one of the bearers of destiny.

The goron size difference is only reinforcing my view, though personally, I think that is just a difference in art/graphics.
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:57 PM
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

what i think it is, is that the hero's shade is just the spirit of the hero. he's not any one link at all. he's all of the links all of their experience put into one container. that would explain the bloodline thing, how he knew songs from previous games (such as prelude of light, that was used at one of the stones), and it would also how he knew so many different moves (like the helm splitter or back slice that was used in windwaker). its the combined spirit of all the heros of the past.
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

The Hero's shade must be ooT Link. In ALttP it says that the ToC is passed down from The knights of Hyrule who originally sealed Ganon. I believe Zelda made Link a Knight in the CT, which explains the armor on the Hero's shade.
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Old 07-20-2008, 05:05 PM
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

to answer the sheikah eye howling stones question.

they look a lot like gossip stones from OoT...


and as far as the Hero's Shade, his boots look very similar to kokiri boots, and i does in fact say "go forth and do not falter, my child." (or sometihng like that)
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Old 07-20-2008, 06:15 PM
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

You guys are over-thinking this...
Nothing is fact, its all theory.
I for one say its just a video game with a ghost soldier who teaches you moves, I don't look any deeper into it.
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

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I never thought about that, your so right!

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He's left handed. That speaks loudly enough.
This is also true, by making him left handed thats kinda saying he might be the OoT Link.

I've always guessed that it was the OoT Link but I never realized the talking thing. I'm very confused.
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Old 07-20-2008, 06:25 PM
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I never thought about that, your so right!



This is also true, by making him left handed thats kinda saying he might be the OoT Link.

I've always guessed that it was the OoT Link but I never realized the talking thing. I'm very confused.
Wow ok just because he's left handed isn't enough to prove that hes Hero of Time. Like for example...
Let's say you don't know your father and never know him. So you're walking down a street and you see a guy picking up a coin with his left hand. You start jumping to conclusion that hes ur father because hes left handed same as you. Like it sounds ridiculous amirite?

So this is pretty much the same situation with assuming that The Hero's Shade is Hero of Time because he's left handed, like it just sounds ridiculous and it inst enough information to justify this.
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

Hoping you are being sarcastic, because Link does speak, the player simply does not see what he says.

Twilight, the developer's have made a point about Link's choice of hand, he is known as the legendary left handed warrior. Only Link is left handed.

It's a big deal.
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Wow ok just because he's left handed isn't enough to prove that hes Hero of Time. Like for example...
Let's say you don't know your father and never know him. So you're walking down a street and you see a guy picking up a coin with his left hand. You start jumping to conclusion that hes ur father because hes left handed same as you. Like it sounds ridiculous amirite?

So this is pretty much the same situation with assuming that The Hero's Shade is Hero of Time because he's left handed, like it just sounds ridiculous and it inst enough information to justify this.
Worst metaphor ever.

We say him being left handed is important because link is the only character from the zelda universe we know to be left handed. The Hero's Shade say the moves have only been passed in his bloodline, we can conclude TP Link and HS are related. Knowing that, lets focus on the ToC, which Link has since the beginning of TP. The ToC is passed down from the Hero of time. So do we see how all three are related? Now let's explore the title "Hero". Hero's Shade is obviously an ancestor of TP as mentioned above and the only other ancestor of TP Link to have the title "Hero" is OoT Link.

So it is safe to assume: Hero's Shade=OoT Link
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

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Hoping you are being sarcastic, because Link does speak, the player simply does not see what he says.

Twilight, the developer's have made a point about Link's choice of hand, he is known as the legendary left handed warrior. Only Link is left handed.

It's a big deal.
^ There is a fact that a majority of the Japanese population is more left handed than being right handed, so we don't whether or not it is a big deal.

Perhaps making left handed swordsmans is more easier? Who knows?
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Worst metaphor ever.
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Old 07-21-2008, 03:22 AM
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Hoping you are being sarcastic, because Link does speak, the player simply does not see what he says.
That is correct. He does talk. But you just don't hear or see it. You can't have a guy walking around saying nothing. People would have to guess what he would be thinking. That makes no sense. Here is a video of what it would be like if he couldn't talk( I didn't make it). YouTube - Zelda: Heart for the Hero
lol.
The reason you can see Hero's Shade speak is because of the boxed speech. The only difference is that you do not see that in OoT or MM.
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Re: the gold wolf / dead soldier in twilight princess.

why have you people jumped right to the conclusion that the hero's shade is the OoT link, he could be anyone, maybe like link had a child and he started his family tree, its been like 100+ years it could be any of OoT link's pre-discesors (i most likely spelt that wrong) doesn't mean it is the OoT link, so stop saying that it is, and it is highly not the OoT link because we never know what happened to him after he finished saving termina, and the TP link could be on the exact same timeline as the OoT link (or very close to it) because Ganondorf isnt trapped inside the sacred realm.
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