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Old 02-05-2008, 01:09 PM
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And the large interest in bugs could be a tie in to the forest.
Not to mention the many plants in her house and the insects glowing like fairies (compensation?). Oh and she's not afraight of wolf link.
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Old 02-05-2008, 02:10 PM
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I always thought it was just a Hyrule fashion statement. =/
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Re: Agitha, Fanadi, and Telma: Connection?

Actually I'm starting to believe these 3 people were simple reminders of the 3 races not in TP. They could've been related to them, but there isnt any direct evidence of it. Kinda like how those 3 creepy girls outside the Star Tent remind us(or at least me) of the 3 goddesses
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Re: Agitha, Fanadi, and Telma: Connection?

Is she really not afraid of wolf Link?
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:11 PM
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Re: Agitha, Fanadi, and Telma: Connection?

nope. In fact, if you talk to her as Wolf Link when she's outside(or maybe inside too, I dunno), she refers to Link as a puppy or something
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:20 PM
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Re: Agitha, Fanadi, and Telma: Connection?

I certainly think Agitha is supposed to recall the Kokiri in some fashion, but she's clearly Hylian.

Personally, I just think it's town fashion.
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:23 PM
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I certainly think Agitha is supposed to recall the Kokiri in some fashion, but she's clearly Hylian.

Personally, I just think it's town fashion.
100% agreed
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:55 PM
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Actually I'm starting to believe these 3 people were simple reminders of the 3 races not in TP. They could've been related to them, but there isnt any direct evidence of it. Kinda like how those 3 creepy girls outside the Star Tent remind us(or at least me) of the 3 goddesses
I have to question though, what would you consider direct evidence of Fanadi's racial status? I mean the game basicly throughs as many "she is a Shiekah" hints as it possibly could without giving it away: she has the red eyes, the eye of truth mark and has the ability to 'see the truth', what more evidence could you want?

I mean it's pretty obvious that at least she was intended to be a shiekah, and given that we are discussing a videogame with posesses no independently verifiable true, that's all that really matters. With Agitha, the evidence that she is a Kokiri is entierly circumstantial and I can certainly understand that there is room for debate in her case, but with Fanadi I simply don't see enough evidence that she is not a shiekah.
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:12 AM
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I have to question though, what would you consider direct evidence of Fanadi's racial status? I mean the game basicly throughs as many "she is a Shiekah" hints as it possibly could without giving it away: she has the red eyes, the eye of truth mark and has the ability to 'see the truth', what more evidence could you want?

I mean it's pretty obvious that at least she was intended to be a shiekah, and given that we are discussing a videogame with posesses no independently verifiable true, that's all that really matters. With Agitha, the evidence that she is a Kokiri is entierly circumstantial and I can certainly understand that there is room for debate in her case, but with Fanadi I simply don't see enough evidence that she is not a shiekah.
I actually wrote up a theory based around the idea that Fanadi is not a Sheikah. The evidence can go either way, however.

And with Agitha... what? While I can certainly see perhaps a callback to the Kokiri, she's a wealthy little girl with too much time on her hands. She plays princess and has pretend balls- while the Kokiri took childish forms in Ocarina of Time, they weren't that frivolous. If Agitha was meant to be a Kokiri, they'd be as blunt as they were with Telma and Fanadi.
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Old 02-06-2008, 04:50 PM
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I have to question though, what would you consider direct evidence of Fanadi's racial status? I mean the game basicly throughs as many "she is a Shiekah" hints as it possibly could without giving it away: she has the red eyes, the eye of truth mark and has the ability to 'see the truth', what more evidence could you want?

I mean it's pretty obvious that at least she was intended to be a shiekah, and given that we are discussing a videogame with posesses no independently verifiable true, that's all that really matters. With Agitha, the evidence that she is a Kokiri is entierly circumstantial and I can certainly understand that there is room for debate in her case, but with Fanadi I simply don't see enough evidence that she is not a shiekah.
Well, here's the thing. If Nintendo wanted to throw in Easter Egg's to remind us of the Sheikah, Kokiri, and Gerudo, how would they do it?
Well, to make a character resemble a Gerudo, they make it a woman, and give her red hair: Telma
To make a character resembling a Kokiri, make them a child and give them blonde hair, and make them like nature or something: Agitha
To make a character resemble a Sheikah, they would have to have features that only the Sheikah have, which is red eyes, and their symbol.

I dont know if these people are actually from those races(especially Agitha), but I do believe they were simply reminders of those races
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:28 PM
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Re: Agitha, Fanadi, and Telma: Connection?

I didn't even know you could talk to Agitha as a wolf....I gotta check that out.
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:35 PM
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Well, here's the thing. If Nintendo wanted to throw in Easter Egg's to remind us of the Sheikah, Kokiri, and Gerudo, how would they do it?
Well, to make a character resemble a Gerudo, they make it a woman, and give her red hair: Telma
To make a character resembling a Kokiri, make them a child and give them blonde hair, and make them like nature or something: Agitha
To make a character resemble a Sheikah, they would have to have features that only the Sheikah have, which is red eyes, and their symbol.

I dont know if these people are actually from those races(especially Agitha), but I do believe they were simply reminders of those races
Telma's also dark-skinned and wears cornrows... the only other character who wears cornrows in Twilight Princess is Ganondorf, who was born Gerudo. She looks Gerudo except for the ears. Also, red eyes aren't a specifically Sheikah trait- the Rito have red eyes, as does Vaati, who is Minish.

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She also has a Shiekah Symbol on her forehead.
Yes...we've known that. There's like 3 pictures of her aleady in this thead
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Old 02-06-2008, 06:48 PM
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Telma's also dark-skinned and wears cornrows... the only other character who wears cornrows in Twilight Princess is Ganondorf, who was born Gerudo. She looks Gerudo except for the ears. Also, red eyes aren't a specifically Sheikah trait- the Rito have red eyes, as does Vaati, who is Minish.
Fanadi a Gerudo! Well thats new to me and now that i think about it ,she could classify to be Gerudo or a shiekah.
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Fanadi a Gerudo! Well thats new to me and now that i think about it ,she could classify to be Gerudo or a shiekah.
Huh? Fanadi cannot be classified as Gerudo- she has pointed ears (Gerudo have rounded ears) and pale skin (Gerudo are dark-skinned). Even Telma is just a Hylian with heavy Gerudo heritage- she has pointed ears.
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Huh? Fanadi cannot be classified as Gerudo- she has pointed ears (Gerudo have rounded ears) and pale skin (Gerudo are dark-skinned). Even Telma is just a Hylian with heavy Gerudo heritage- she has pointed ears.
Well it looks to me Ganondorf has pointy ears in TP.

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Well it looks to me Ganondorf has pointy ears in TP.

Ganondorf's ears
And WW I believe...
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Re: Agitha, Fanadi, and Telma: Connection?

You'll also note Ganondorf can turn into a massive boar, which other Gerudo can't do, and has turned several shades darker than regular Gerudo in Twilight Princess. His ears are also not as prominent as Hylians' are. We can chalk this up to the Triforce of Power, because before he received the Triforce of Power, he was a fairly routine Gerudo. After, his physical form began to change.

Gerudo do not have pointed ears- if Telma had rounded ears, she could be considered Gerudo, but she has the long, pointed ears of a Hylian. Telma and Agitha are Hylian throwbacks to two different cultures, while Fanadi's ethnicity is up for debate.
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