Article concerning next Wii Zelda

This is not one from Nintendo, if you thought so. I just thought it was intesting.

The Wiire - A Link to the Past, A Link for the Future

Besides, that´s the first editorial not concerning PH that I see in months. I´m not saying that I don´t like PH (althought I don´t care much unless I buy a DS). Maybe this should be in Future Zelda, but I´m not sure. Well, it SHOULD be there, but well.

That was a interesting article. They expect the next game to be as different from TP as MM was to OoT. (that was a lot of abbreviations) Whatever they end up creating I'm already looking forward to it. But I don't expect to see it untill 2009, even if that article said otherwise.

And it's good to see something about the upcoming console Zelda, I have no interest in handhelds.

I'm not sure I've understood it correctly. Is the next Zelda game definitely going to be built for Wii alone, not GameCube?

I was surprised there would actually come a next Zelda! Good news, unless it's for Wii, because I'm tired of buying new machines for every friggin' game.

I want Zelda Wii to re-invent the Zelda series in the same way Casino Royal rebooted the 007 movie franchise, and Batman Begins rebooted the Batman franchise.

Taking Majora's Mask's philosophy of trying something completely new while still being true to the spirit of Zelda (exploration and puzzles) is great, but I think a serious revamp of everrything is in order. Like I said, and TSA made an article about, Zelda, in my opinion, needs a major revamp or reboot.

It's gotten to the point where we are just playing the same adventure over and over with an added gimmick or two. The Wind Waker and Twilight Princess was basically Ocarina of Time with a few gimmicks here and there (sailing, cell-shading; wolf transformation), but they haven't really added anything truly unique or new to the series. The same can be said about The Minish Cap which is a watered-down version of A Link to the Past with an added catch--the shrinking and Kinstones. We've been, in theory, playig the same game for years.

I've come to respect Majora's Mask so much more now for what it succeeded in doing--creating a completely new experience without the aid of gimmicks to blind gamers from the fact that they are playing the same game again. The game took place in an entirely new world, the focus of the game was no longer just on dungeons, the game had a distinct moral theme, you could transform (allowing for completely new ways of gaming--a new level of platforming and solving puzzles), you had to investigate optional stories to get the full picture on the main plot/theme, you had a time system that allowed for a more lively feeling world that opened up more opportunities, and the world was no longer influenced by the middle ages. Majora's Mask had balls, and it resulting in the most original Zelda game yet; you cannot get the same experience from any other Zelda game, or game in general for that matter.

One thing that MM did do, that I don't want done in Zelda Wii is reuse Ocarina of Time's engine. Still, while MM re-used it, it perfected--mostly in combat. You were now required to use more skill in combat due to harder enemies, and because of this, you had to use all the skills that weren't needed in Ocarina of Time--side-jumping, backflipping, and various sword attacks and shield blocks. One can argue that The Wind Waker and Twilight Princess further perfected Ocarina of Time's engine (Though, I strongly disagree. I don't see how downgrading the aggressive and unpredictable nature of enemies found in MM, and even some enemies in OoT, to be anything but a massive downgrade), so why continue to do the same thing over and over? Don't we get enough rehashes when it comes to plots and characters?

Zelda Wii should create its own engine that has no connections to the one introduced in Ocarina. Targetting will still be useful, and can be perfected with the Wii Remote, but everything else has to go. Forget the useless roll; why not replace it with a jump or dash? Revamp the sword fighting completely so it is either 1:1, or pretty darn close. If Nintendo revolutionized 3d gaming with Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time, they should be able to think of a completely new and better engine than one one they have been reusing since 1998.

In conclusion, I did not like that article. It's as if the author was trying to ask for something different, while still wanting to get the same thing. He says there should be another Majora's Mask type same, but also goes into how they should continue the OoT engine, and maybe introduce Midna again (which I completely detest). So, what do I want? A reason to continue buying Zelds games--give me something completely new!

If we keep trying to recreate the past, we may miss out on something great. And as a fictional king once said:

Originally Posted by Daphne Hyrule

Hope! I desire hope for these children! Give them a future! Wash away this ancient land of Hyrule! Let a ray of hope shine on the future of the world!!!

sounds interesting

probably wont hear all that much about it though untill early next year

Early next year? I didn't even know that! That early!

Originally Posted by Mrs Ganondorf

Early next year? I didn't even know that! That early!

There is not even a hint of the release date. I wouldn´t like it to be so early... I want the the game to have some decent development time.

Originally Posted by Kee Igos

In conclusion, I did not like that article. It's as if the author was trying to ask for something different, while still wanting to get the same thing. He says there should be another Majora's Mask type same, but also goes into how they should continue the OoT engine, and maybe introduce Midna again (which I completely detest). So, what do I want? A reason to continue buying Zelds games--give me something completely new!

If we keep trying to recreate the past, we may miss out on something great.

I agree with that Zelda shouldn´t be using basically the same engine over and over. And not just the engine, but the whole same formula: problems begin, you start your journey alone, temple, item, sidequests, then another temple, the same as before, and so on.

One way I see of directly revolutionizing the Zelda games would be changing to a first person perspective, although many of us think that it would suck. That really would be a change, and I can see it working.

Another mayor change could be integrating all of the places into one single land. In all of the 3D Zeldas we´ve seen small roads and narrow paths between every single place, and passing through obe really cuts any existing sense of exploration, it makes the world linear. That´s something that 3D Zeldas have always lacked (but they do have some), exploration.

But something completely new? All the Zelda games have contributed in something to the franchise, and starting from the beggining would mean losing all that experience. Although I agree with you, I don´t think that the Zelda games should be completely rehashed. But we need a massive change. Improvement, I mean.

i want to be able to where ever u move the wii mote the sword follows exactly...and be able to block with the shield AND your sword...that would be awesome

Interesting and I don't see why it couldn't come out sooner than you think. If they are on a creative roll and it's comming to together better than expected then there's no reason to hold back. Of course I'm just getting my hopes up but we know what it's like when your creative juices get flowing, who knows it might be out by the end of next year or something but we will have to see. Hopefully we will see a slight departure and bring Zelda in to the new age of gaming. I don't mean throw away all the core elements but y'know...push things forward a bit in every aspect such as a larger more interactive overworld, improved comabt etc.

All of these queries and thoughts regarding the mysterious direction Nintendo intend to take the Zelda franchise make me laugh. In a good way.

One thing we can guarantee is that the upcoming Wii Zelda won't be a recycled 3D affair from the last generation of games and it won't change the classic Zelda theme. (Boy lives in peace; peace shattered; boy saves world; boy witnesses underwhelming ending. )

Originally Posted by Mrs Ganondorf

I'm not sure I've understood it correctly. Is the next Zelda game definitely going to be built for Wii alone, not GameCube?

I was surprised there would actually come a next Zelda! Good news, unless it's for Wii, because I'm tired of buying new machines for every friggin' game.

Well that's just consumerism. Besides, the Gamecube has done it's part. Out with the old and all of that.

Originally Posted by The Wiire

Majora's Mask worked because the development team found a viable excuse to reuse a hefty majority of Ocarina of Time's characters, items and moves: Link being thrust into a dimension parallel to Hyrule.

That's playing with fire at ZU isn't it?

~ Adhamh.

The Wiire: And so to those who bestow this venerable franchise your respect, even if merely an ounce, I ask only this: allow the creators the freedom they deserve, the freedom to now take Zelda to heights unimaginable, rather than bind Link to the trappings of acute familiarity.

I can't agree with this article more. That last paragraph summed up what needs to happen very well: We need a drastic change, but we need the new game rooted in what gives Zelda it's essence. The only question is: Will people have the open-minds to take the new Zelda? Personally, I can't wait to see the new Zelda break away from the formula. One change I would like to see is for Link to be given some serious personality beyond some grunts, moans, screams, and the occasional (rare) phrase. It wouldn't hurt to give him some speech, and essentially, Link had some manner of speech in TP. For instance, in the beginning, Talo and Malo's dad says, "Our voices carry well up here." In the end, Midna says, "Say something," as though Link has already spoken. Also, when Link goes back to the village to tell the parents of the kids that they're okay, the screen goes black for a second, as though the creators don't want you to hear what he has to say. Perhaps this is Nintendo priming us for an overhauled-Link? I certainly hope so. To me, it would be a change in the right direction.