Must read! theory on Goron merchants

You proabably know that the travelling merchants in the Wind Waker are gorons, but if the Zora and Kokiri are extinct, how did the Gorons survive? My theory is that after Hyrule was flooded, Gorons moved from Termina to above Hyrule as travelling merchants. Or, before Hyrule was flooded, they had settlements on the high mountains of Hyrule. (the islands in the Wind Waker), and was able to survive there and be traveling merchants. Then again, nobody said that Termina wasn't flooded, either. So maybe the merchants aren't from Termina.

If they were Hyrulian gorons, pherhaps they lived on the high mountains of Hyrule when it was flooded and became traveling merchants. Because there is alot of time between WW and Oot, there could be something that happened in between to the Kokiri,Zoras,and Gorons that wiped out there civilization. Now that I think about it, the chance that the races were wiped out before the Wind Waker is very likely. But if that didn't happen, what happened to the Zoras and the Kokiri?

Obiously the Hyrulian Zoras are frozen, so the only remaining Zoras would be in Termina. Even if Termina was flooded, couldn't Zoras swim up to the top and go to above Hyrule? Or did they move entirely to a different land, or do they STILL live underwater in Termina or Hyrule?! I think that that is proabably what happened. Still, we don't know for sure. What about the Kokiri? Were they flooded with Hyrule?

They could of possibly been wiped out by a natural disaster. I don't really have a good theory on the Kokiri, though, so I won't keep writing about them. The closest things to the Kokiri in the Wind Waker is in Forest Haven. Oh, and one more thing, do you think the Great Deku tree in that game is the Deku tree sprout from Oot, or do you think it is the sprout's sprout? Or maybe the sprout's sprout's sprout?
Please answer this and tell me what you think happened to the races.

If hyrule was flooded(which I don't remember) how did the zoras die? That makes no sence(sp?). Gorons survive a flood. A big non-swimming rock survives a flood. But zoras don't? how does a giant fish not survive a flood. Unless a wave carried them through a knife factory they would survive.

In the Windwaker, Hyrule is under water. (haven't you been under the water to Hyrule in the Wind Waker yet?) Hyrule is under water. I'm just giving theorys of why there are still gorons in the Windwaker and not Zoras. I'm not saying the Zoras died, I'm just suggesting where they might have gone to, and why they are not in WW. The Termina ones certainly lived, maybe Nintendo didn't event think about where they went. You're right, gorons would sink and die during the flood. But what what I was saying was that maybe the Gorons lived on top of the mountains of Hyrule (once again, the islands in WindWaker), and became travelling merchants. Gorons usually live ontop of mountains, so there would be a good chance of that, and they wouldn't die because the tops of the mountain were still above water, and they wouldn't sink. There wouldn't be Hyrulian Zoras because they are frozen when you are an adult in Oot (unless they defrosted and went somewhere else, or still live in Hyrule underwater)

The Zoras became the Rito, and the Kokiri became the Korok. They didn't die. And since the Gorons lived on the mountaintops, i.e. the islands in Windwaker, so it makes sence that they survived. Then, they had to survive somehow, and being merchants did that.

The races didn't die out. The Zora evolved, and the Kokiri became Korok.

Originally Posted by Shade the Sheikah

The Zoras became the Rito, and the Kokiri became the Korok. They didn't die. And since the Gorons lived on the mountaintops, i.e. the islands in Windwaker, so it makes sence that they survived. Then, they had to survive somehow, and being merchants did that.

The races didn't die out. The Zora evolved, and the Kokiri became Korok.

Yep. The Zoras evolved into the Rito. You know why? Because Hyrulean Zoras can only survive in freshwater. And this thing about Gorons and Zoras traveling between Hyrule and Termina. Termina is in a parellel dimension to Hyrule, where everything is the same, just a bit different. The only reason Link managed to get into Termina, was because the power of Majora's Mask transported him between dimensions. The Skullkid in MM is originally from Termina, due to the fact that we never see him in anywhere else but Termina, even in the flashbacks.

The Kokiri did evolve into the Korok. Proof of this is that when you go to the Forbidden Woods in TWW, you see all the Kokiri houses from OoT, and one of the Koroks says that the Forbidden Forest USED to be their home. And of course the Gorons survived because they live on the mountains, but with all the creatures living on the mountaintops, the Gorons home was destroted, and many of them died, hence why there are only three remaining. However, they may have moved to a different mountaintop outside of the game area in TWW, so they may not of died out because of overcrowding in their homes, just moved to somewhere more peaceful (NOT Termina).

A possible theory. Even though the parallel theory about the Termina is unclear in my opinion I would have thought that it would also be flooded. perhaps those Gorons are indeed Hyrulian or maybe they are from another distant land. But the korkiks and the zoras didn't die. They envolved into Koroks and ritos.

i think its kinda weird how the zoras go from fish to bird, but not impossible. and yes, you CAN see the kokiris homes in teh forbidden woods. the gorons live in the mountains, which means that they survived when hyrule was flooded becasue teh mountains become the islands.

*sigh* the zora nor the korkiri are dead, the just evovled to either the koroks (from the korkiri) or the rito (from the zora.) so, they all survieved the huge flood. and i think that it's the sprout from the game OoT, i also think that the WW comes after OoT on the timeline

When I wrote this article, I completely forgot about the Zoras and Kokiri evolving. (it does seem kinda weird that sea creatures could evolve into bird-like people), but I am still thinking of different theorys for the Gorons. Oh, and by the way, I didn't know that Termina was a differnet dimension. For some reason I thought that Link rode into Termia, coming from Hyrule. (Although I own MM, I haven't played much of it)

if the zoras and the korkiri evovled .... then how come the gorons didn't?

maybe it has something to do because they are basically rocks.

Originally Posted by Twilight Link

if the zoras and the korkiri evovled .... then how come the gorons didn't?

maybe it has something to do because they are basically rocks.

A theory I have thought of a while ago is based off where they live. If you notice the Korkiris and zoras lived on the ground while the gorons lived up high on death mountain. Maybe when the flood occured they couldn't leave anywhere else besides the ground so they have to envolve in order to survive. While the Gorons were up high chilling. This can possibly also explain why we don't see any Gerudos. Maybe they died because they couldn't envolve for some reason. But one thing about this theory that doesn't make sense is how come we don't see too many Gorons?

Originally Posted by HeroOfTime5

A theory I have thought of a while ago is based off where they live. If you notice the Korkiris and zoras lived on the ground while the gorons lived up high on death mountain. Maybe when the flood occured they couldn't leave anywhere else besides the ground so they have to envolve in order to survive. While the Gorons were up high chilling. This can possibly also explain why we don't see any Gerudos. Maybe they died because they couldn't envolve for some reason. But one thing about this theory that doesn't make sense is how come we don't see too many Gorons?

maybe most of those gorons that aren't traveling stayed up on the mountain because that's there homeland. hm... that makes sense

and herooftime5 did you used to me LinkHerooftime?

Originally Posted by Twilight Link

maybe most of those gorons that aren't traveling stayed up on the mountain because that's there homeland. hm... that makes sense

and herooftime5 did you used to me LinkHerooftime?

Maybe that's the reason they stayed on the mountain. I can't think of any other reason besides a stupid theory I just pulled out of my *** right now. Possibly when the flood occured the zoras had to stay somewhere so they found the mountain where the gorons lived and they fought and killed most of them. Possible but very unlikely. The zoras were hostile creatures.

No I have always been HeroOfTime5. Man I shouldn't have pick that name to begin with. It's no original. oh well

Originally Posted by HeroOfTime5

Maybe that's the reason they stayed on the mountain. I can't think of any other reason besides a stupid theory I just pulled out of my *** right now. Possibly when the flood occured the zoras had to stay somewhere so they found the mountain where the gorons lived and they fought and killed most of them. Possible but very unlikely. The zoras were hostile creatures.

No I have always been HeroOfTime5. Man I shouldn't have pick that name to begin with. It's no original. oh well

actually, that does make a lot of sense, especially in the 2d games those fish that attack you..... or maybe when they started undergoing the changes of becoming rito, they realized that it was unfit to live in the ocean making them want the mountain.

The OoT Zoras couldn't survive in the sea because they can only survive in freshwater, that's why they evolved into the Rito.

I believe the races didn't die out....but just evolved. Though I wouldn't see the reason to turn a fish person into a bird...when there's plenty of water in wind waker(unless zeldagamer21 is probably correct). The traveling merchant goron's were probably the ones living on the mountain and didn't get drowned....and the Kokiri.........well.....they just died....i dunno I can't think of a good reason for them.

well yes. I know that XD
But I mean, I wonder why they'd evolve (if they did) into little leafy flying men, Cute....but retarted

Originally Posted by Rath

well yes. I know that XD
But I mean, I wonder why they'd evolve (if they did) into little leafy flying men, Cute....but retarted

it is a way to get around since they don't have a boat or anything like that, they have to be able to fly over long distances, and they probably don't know how to swim.

Originally Posted by Rath

all I ever see them do is hang out by the deku tree... ah wellz

All of them except for Hollo (the one at the potion shop) leave Forest Haven eventually. It's seen in the game. You've probably not got to that point yet.

How do you know that the Gorons in Hyrule are the same as the Gorons in Termina? Could they be completely different Gorons?