TP vs. OoT

Originally Posted by Dei~

One thing is to criticize a game, and another is bashing it just for personal hate, like he does. He will never say anything possitive about TP because he's too blind with his hate towards it.

So if someone hates every single part of the game, that makes them blind? That's blatantly false; it's called personal taste.

Originally Posted by Cereal Bawks

So if someone hates every single part of the game, that makes them blind? That's blatantly false; it's called personal taste.

And it's also called biased hate.

Not if they have legitimate reasons.

I don't think the reasons are strong ones though. I'm replaying TP now, and I gotta say I missed the h, e double hocky sticks out of this game.

I'll admit I've been skipping the cutscenes, but at least I'm blessed with the option to do what I want.

ggs.

TP is not my favorite game but I think of it like I think of ponies
(hold on now)

All the ponies are my favorite, but some less than others like, RD is my Least favorite, but she's still one of my favorites, I just like Applejack Better

So Twilight princess is like Rainbow Dash

Honestly, I can't decide.
I love TP, but OoT is equally legendary.
grr.
can't
decide....

Ocarina of Time I like better. I don't know,I just wasn't really that drawn into Twilight Princess. I've only played it once though,so maybe another playthrough and I'll enjoy it more. I know I won't like it as much as I do Ocarina of Time though .

Ocarina of Time was my first game and I loved it. Then Twilight Princess came out and I liked it even more. Don't get me wrong, I still love OoT, but TP appealed to me. I don't know how many times I played TP... Way too many...

People really love to tall about how bland TP's field was...
It's a field, what you want in it a frickin Ferris Wheel?

Originally Posted by n0va

People really love to tall about how bland TP's field was...
It's a field, what you want in it a frickin Ferris Wheel?

Not even a ferris wheel would make these haters happy. In fact, they would only ♥♥♥♥♥ more.

Originally Posted by n0va

People really love to tall about how bland TP's field was...
It's a field, what you want in it a frickin Ferris Wheel?

Well now that you think about it, sure. Let's also add a roller coaster too. Hey SS had one. And a tilt-a-whirl, a fun house, a whole bunch of mini game stands from shady people who just want to take your rupees. Yep, lets add a whole amusement park in the field.

Ocarina of Time was more original. Ocarina of Time has a better storyline, anyways. So I don't see what is so debatable about OoT vs TP.

No one tells me what makes OoT's plot better besides "it's more original". Also, no one tells me why it's more original.

Originally Posted by Red Shadows

No one tells me what makes OoT's plot better besides "it's more original". Also, no one tells me why it's more original.

If you take the timeline into account, it split the timeline into 3 branches.

Originally Posted by Red Shadows

No one tells me what makes OoT's plot better besides "it's more original". Also, no one tells me why it's more original.

It's much better paced for one.

'Better paced'? Hell no. The best that they could do with OoT is literally,

1. Go fight some guys to unlock a temple.
2. Become an adult.
3. Go to five more temples.
4. Kill bad guy.

The amount of lore in the game is shallow, with Bongo Bongo being the most interesting thing in the game while other elements of gameplay, like Kaepora Gaebora are detrimental to the lore, which is certainly a first. There's hardly any backstory, little reason for doing anything, and no build-up. The plot is a huge, creaking, uninteresting building that crashes.

Originally Posted by Master Vainqueur

'Better paced'? Hell no. The best that they could do with OoT is literally,

1. Go fight some guys to unlock a temple.
2. Become an adult.
3. Go to five more temples.
4. Kill bad guy.

The amount of lore in the game is shallow, with Bongo Bongo being the most interesting thing in the game while other elements of gameplay, like Kaepora Gaebora are detrimental to the lore, which is certainly a first. There's hardly any backstory, little reason for doing anything, and no build-up. The plot is a huge, creaking, uninteresting building that crashes.

I'm talking about story pacing as the guy I was responding to was mentioning TP's story. But while were at that OOT has better gameplay pacing to it as well, because with the exception of the Water Temple, nothing in the game feels dragged out, pointless, uneeded, or flawed as ♥♥♥♥ unlike TP.

And really? Ocarina of Time IMO has some of the most lore and hidden backstory of any game in the series.

Originally Posted by Grooston

I'm talking about story pacing as the guy I was responding to was mentioning TP's story. But while were at that OOT has better gameplay pacing to it as well, because with the exception of the Water Temple, nothing in the game feels dragged out, pointless, uneeded, or flawed as ♥♥♥♥ unlike TP.

And really? Ocarina of Time IMO has some of the most lore and hidden backstory of any game in the series.

TP has far better gameplay pacing, what with actually interesting NPCs. I don't give two damns if they're annoying or not, but most of the gameplay in TP pertains to the plot and gets interesting (except for the statues and the Twilight Zones, but those are better than anything in OoT). Most of the temples in OoT were little more than boring puzzle minigames, while TP actually got smart and effective with its dungeons.

And how exactly does OoT have lore? I remember the Gossip Stones, certainly, but there was hardly any backstory or motivation in the game. The threat of Ganon destroying Hyrule was nonexistent, and people who served him actually profited (i.e. Ingo). And there was backstory that made you want to know more? Don't make me laugh at that ridicuolus concept.

Besides, OoT follows almost the same concept as ALttP.

Get 3 items.
Those 3 items will allow you to get the MS.
Go awaken/rescue the sages from temples.
Finally, go to the villain's fortress and take him out.

Originally Posted by Master Vainqueur

TP has far better gameplay pacing, what with actually having** interesting NPCs. I don't give two damns if they're annoying or not, but most of the gameplay in TP pertains to the plot and gets interesting (except for the statues and the Twilight Zones, but those are better than anything in OoT). Most of the temples in OoT were little more than boring puzzle minigames, while TP actually got smart and effective with its dungeons.

And how exactly does OoT have lore? I remember the Gossip Stones, certainly, but there was hardly any backstory or motivation in the game. The threat of Ganon destroying Hyrule was nonexistent, and people who served him actually profited (i.e. Ingo). And there was backstory that made you want to know more? Don't make me laugh at that ridicuolus concept.

The threat of ganon ruling hyrule forever, keeping the land in utter darkness is one thing that drove me on to play it, And Ingo was a dick head character to begin with, so sure he'd sell out his partners and gain something, but other than that, I don't think other characters besides him benefited, and hell, he didn't even really benefit seeing as his prized horse got away, and he went insane from fear, and became nice. As with TP I have defended it before, but I can say that after you take care of Lanayru's issue and the twilight is all dispersed, I no longer felt the urgency to hurry and do something. With OoT from the minute I stepped out of The temple of time I felt like "Oh ♥♥♥♥ This place is really down the drain, and I should probably get to doing something about it"

Sure OoT has some over glorified points, but it is the first game that really goes in depth the lore of Hyrules Religious practices. It's supposedly the story that caused the triforce to split in three, and going into depth about the chosen sages. In TP They basically just re-stated everything OoT already said, but added some more flashy cutscenes and a few more little tidbits, so it's not really that much more advanced. Sure we have the twili, but after that 30-40 minute adventure through their land, no one gives a ♥♥♥♥ about them anymore and forgets they even exist, seeing as there is no impeding issues with them either. The only urgency in TP I felt was rescuing collin, and helping the Zora prince.

In OoT we have the issues with The Kokiri. We learn of their exclusive Relationship with fairies, and the Deku tree. We have Lord Jabu jabu, we have the Gorons being explain a bit more, we have The Sheikah, we have the Gerudos being explained, OoT was hardly lacking in the imagination department, and a lot of points have merit for double thought, I agree TP has great lore additions, but In no way was OoT flat and boring when it came to that either.